"You had two girls, now you have none!" plus Summer House and Love Island USA

We cover the bonanza of bombshells on Love Island UK, Sincere (is he?) and Sol and Melanie and other Love Island USA key moments, Southern Hospitality, Real Housewives of Atlanta and Rhode Island, plus In the City and Below Deck Med. We also ask whether Dad's lack of familiarity with slang is because he's old or if they are UK specific.

Isabella: Welcome back.

Dad: Welcome.

Isabella: This is welcome to episode two.

Dad: We have lots to cover today.

Isabella: Lots to cover.

Dad: As always.

Isabella: Crazy week on both Love Island UK and USA. I think we got a few more things to cover as well, but it'll be a pretty Love Island focused again this week.

Dad: How about Summer House episode three of the reunion?

Isabella: Yes. That we have some things to discuss as well. I think we also have I have a couple notes on Atlanta, Rhode Island, and Below Deck Med. And then, I guess, a couple more notes for Southern Hospitality, along with Summer House in the city and both Love Islands, of course.

Dad: Where do you wanna start?

Isabella: Should we start with UK again since we did just watch the Sunday episode a little bit ago?

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: So I think we should go back and start from the start of the week, but I do wanna say we have some some boy versus girl going on right now. I think we've got a split in the group as as we speak. So do you wanna talk about that, dad, or should we go back a little bit?

Dad: I think we can cover that. My initial comment is that's what they're showing now, but by the next episode, everything will be copacetic. They'll all be lovey dovey again. It's just The UK way.

Isabella: Yeah. That is that is, I guess, usually what happens. But but we'll see. I think there might be some lingering feelings this time around. So for context, the Love Island UK folks, they had a challenge.

And this challenge consisted of the girls sliding down a slide and then grabbing a cocktail and reading a fact about a fellow islander, and then they had to guess who that islander is by throwing the cocktail in the islander's face. Now, of course, this was boys versus girls, so the boys were guessing the girls and vice versa. Now while this challenge is going on, you can kind of see the men starting to get upset. And I don't really know where this is coming from. I guess it kind of started with Opie.

I would say that one of the facts that was read is that I think it was something like this boy has acknowledged that he has a wandering eye. Okay. Fine. So the girls identify that it is Simba. And then they're they're saying something like, well, it's okay as long as you don't act on it.

Opie did not like to hear that, because Opie said, well, why is it okay when he does it, but it's not okay when I do it? Which I guess, I understand where he's coming from, but here's where the difference is, Opie. You said that to Angelista, not maybe not to her, but it it was at her expense. This discussion of, okay, Simba has had a wandering eye in the past, that's not at anyone else's expense in this island right now. Same thing happened with Aiden.

One of the facts was coming back on Yasmin, saying that she in the past had mistaken names and called a guy by her ex's name. Now the same thing, Aiden got mad and said, well, why is it okay when you do it? Well, the difference here, Aiden, is that you did that to Yasmin. Yasmin's not doing that to you. So I I get why they're so frustrated, but they're getting mad at the girls for this.

And that is what is irritating me. Like, these guys are acting like such losers. They're actually embarrassing themselves, I think. Aiden and Opie specifically. Then we have Sam Raj coming in, but I think I'm I'm speaking too much, so I wanna let you what do you have any thoughts on this?

Whose team are you on?

Dad: I I get what the guys were saying, but then I ended up falling more on the ladies' side afterwards where they were saying that they're moping too much. But in general, the whole thing is just kind of BS because that's how starved the show is for drama that this simplistic game, and they're talking about things that could have had happened years ago. So no one should really care about it too But then they all get worked up about it in contrast to the drama that goes on on USA. It's it's like night and day difference. So we're it's interesting that we're focusing on such a tiny thing in the grand scheme of things.

Isabella: Yeah. It actually took me a little bit to even figure out what the boys were upset about. I mean, while they're playing the game, I see they're they're getting all mouthy, and I don't understand why. So

Dad: Maybe the best argument that the guys had was when the women said that at least one of them keeps a list of on her notes on her phone of specifically who and how many men she slept with, that if a man admitted keeping and I think it's happened on prior episodes or prior seasons, would definitely set them off as being grotesque or disgusting or something else. I'm trying to remember which season it was, but it seemed like someone had admitted to keeping a list. It caused I

Isabella: will say keeping a list is not the craziest thing I've ever heard, but I do understand that I I get what they're saying in that if if roles were reversed, it would have been more of a problem coming from the men. I think that that there is a point to be made there. But like what Jasmine brought up, is, yes, you can say there are double standards, but if you wanna talk about that, then we have to talk about it both ways. And there are so many more double standards on women. So it's just I don't think it's really worth these men, boys getting so upset over.

I think that they're kind of just trying to pull the attention off of them. I do like that the girls finally seem to be standing up for themselves. They feel like they've finally grown some balls, and they're gonna call out these men, these boys for being stupid. I mean, just being weirdos. I wanna mention Samraj and Priya's conversation where they it got a little bit heated.

Samraj, you can tell he's getting so frustrated. I could just see it in his body language. And then he start he got he gets so angry. He says, you're just embarrassing. Gets up and starts to walk off.

And then Priya, to that, she goes, f off. And Samraj did not like that. They're, of course, going back and forth, said, you called me embarrassing. Well, you told me to f off. Well, because you called me embarrassing.

I'm definitely team Mika, Micah?

Dad: Mika.

Isabella: Mika. I'm definitely team Mika on that because Sam Raj, it he just is I don't really get where he's coming from either, but, you know.

Dad: Next episode, he's gonna apologize. They're gonna hug it out. It's over.

Isabella: You're totally right. My biggest problem, I think, with these men is Aiden. Aiden is his attitude, it it's just really starting to piss me off. Like, when he is talking to Jasmine saying that the way she was acting was off putting. Like, who are you to say that?

You're not even her couple. Like, I he and he's not even all that. Like, I get that he has girls that like him, but I I don't see it at all.

Dad: I do have to give him some credit because his persistence may have paid off in that he went back to first of all, Ellie staying on the show was the best moment of the week because she's my favorite. I love what she says. I again, the accent just kills me. She won't put up with any BS. I think that she would be the easiest to get along with personally.

And when Aiden went back to her and again said unfinished business, and then she said, okay, maybe I deaded it off a little too early. And then I thought, no, don't give in. I what's wrong with you? But then she's admitted that she she it might be a a her problem.

Isabella: Yeah. I think it's a both of them problem. I can't keep up with those two. Like, one day they're like, no, there was never a thing here. And then the next day they're like, oh, well, maybe there is unfinished business.

So I feel like every episode it changes. We really didn't see much of Ellie on this episode.

Dad: For the whole week, really.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that. Speaking of Ellie, though, since you mentioned that she was allowed to stay, I guess we should go back to the beginning of the week. Ellie and Samraj got a text that if the Bombshells didn't choose to couple up with them, then they would get dumped.

So, of course, the Bombshells did choose to couple up with them, so they got to stay. So no issue with that. Now, the Bombshells, do we who do we remember who it was coming in? It was Tommy and Simba? No.

No. That's later in the week.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: The Bombshells at that point were Kavan. Kavan and was it just Kavan?

Dad: I've already lost track. This is the complication of the show. It has so many episodes that they all kind of bleed together. It probably doesn't matter.

Isabella: And Priya. Priya. It was Cavan and Priya. Okay. So Cavan picked Ellie to couple up with, and Priya picked Samraj, and so they all got to stay.

Now, will say, do I think that that was ever gonna not happen? No. I think Samraj, it's very obvious he likes Mika more, but he wasn't gonna not pick Priya and have her sent home. Same thing with Kavan. I think Kavan is probably now it wasn't it was a little bit harder to tell when he first came in, but I think now it's pretty simple to tell that he was always into Jasmine the most.

But it was nice of them to keep Samraj and Ellie around, so that was nice. I do think Priya was immediately kind of obsessed with Lorenzo, I will say. I mean, I think she was kind of giggling and kicking her feet laughing, like talking to him the first time. I think she's really into him, which I get. I mean, he's the best looking one there.

And how about George? Let's talk about George and his disappearance.

Dad: Right. Oh, good. I I'd already forgotten who he was.

Isabella: You forgot about George already. See, that's

Dad: how

Isabella: quick this show moves is there was a whole extra guy that just kind of left, and you don't even remember him.

Dad: I do now. Well He was the Targaryen.

Isabella: Yes. He was the Targaryen. So George, that night, ended up recoupling with Mika because Samraj was with Priya, so George recoupled with Mika. George and Robin then go up to the terrace, and they kiss, which George didn't really seem like he wanted to do initially because he thought it was disrespectful. Of course, then Mika finds out and she, in fact, does believe it was disrespectful.

And I think I agree. I mean, I think it was a little bit too soon. I get that George probably did like Robin more, and Robin clearly likes him. But I do think that they could've waited a little bit longer. So I think George's first kind of intuition there was the correct one.

And then I think that, what was it, the next episode after that, we just hear George had to leave. Right. And I have since found out that he did have a family emergency, so all well wishes to him and his family. I actually think he was doing very well on the show, so it does suck that he had to leave. It especially sucks because my girl Robin then got dumped a little bit later in the week.

So do we wanna talk about that? Do we wanna talk about Robin at all? You're not really into Robin, Nothing I

Dad: against her, but I just didn't get much from her.

Isabella: Robin, I agree. We didn't get much from her, but everything that I did that we did get, I really loved. Like, when Opie came in well, let's back up a little bit. The boys had a night where they got to go meet a couple new Bombshells, and the girls stayed back and watched them on the screen, which I I love that they do this. It's the second season in a row that they've done this, and it causes great drama.

The boys, for whatever reason, have no idea that they're being watched.

Dad: That's so dumb. They've surely watched the show.

Isabella: Yeah. You would think that they would have some sort of indication like, oh, the girls are back at the villa. Maybe they're watching us. Nope. They're just stupid.

So Opie goes on to make a fool of himself. He immediately says he has wandering eyes. He's not really feeling the slow pace that Angelista has kind of imposed, I guess. Where Robin comes in here is when all the boys come back to the villa. Opie immediately gets extremely defensive.

He almost starts yelling at Angelista, he's kind of yelling at the other girls, acting like it's their problem. Robin was not having any of that. Robin called him out immediately, said, Why are you so angry? There's no reason for you to be all like this. And in that, whatever that accent is, that is just so funny that I just cannot understand what she's saying, but I think it's hilarious.

Dad: She's Liverpudlian, and they call her a scouser.

Isabella: Yes. That's what yeah. The scouser. I love that accent. I think she's hilarious.

So I was bummed when she got dumped. I was yeah. I was pretty bummed. So Robin getting dumped, that was unfortunate for me. Now, I I will say I don't know who I would have preferred to get dumped in her place.

But, yeah, I I think that she had a lot more to give, so that's unfortunate. Also, regarding the little boy's getaway to go meet the Bombshells, I think Aiden again back to Aiden. I think he made a bit of a fool of himself too. He said again that he's like what was the line? That he's in a sandwich with Ellie and Yasmin.

I think that was the pretty much the exact line. Of course, Ellie and Yasmin were not really a big fan of that. So what I loved, and this is back to reasons why we love Ellie, is the next day Ellie called both of them over and said, we're gonna have a little sandwich conversation. And you can see Aiden is like, no, I don't wanna have this conversation. He's kind of pouting about it.

She's like, no, we're gonna do it. We're gonna have it. Pretty sure she told Aiden asked for a hug at some point, and she was like, no, I think I could you can dap me up, but no. Like, we're I'm not hugging you. Loved that.

That I thought was hilarious.

Dad: But then she went back and said, I'll hug you because I don't want you to feel bad.

Isabella: Yeah. So she does she's she's very sweet, but I really like that side of her that's fiery. And I'm I'm loving that from Jasmine too, especially with the kind of getting on all those other boys after all of their pouting and moping after the challenge. So yeah, Jasmine and Ellie, I think, are the top girls right now. They're the most interesting to me at least, at the moment, but these things change.

Dad: Well, notwithstanding that Ellie's my favorite, I think she might be at the biggest risk of getting booted. All hinges on whether the new guy is it Tommy?

Isabella: Tommy and Simba.

Dad: Yes. Well, Simba's out for her, so Tommy is her only chance unless there's another Bombshell that comes in. I think otherwise, no one seems to be saying, oh, I think I wanna get to know Ellie. How was that for an accent?

Isabella: Not great.

Dad: Certainly not Scottish.

Isabella: Yeah. Okay. We've we've have seen a lot of Bombshells come in this week, and I am trying to even remember. We we already mentioned Kavan.

Dad: Simba, Tommy.

Isabella: No. Simba and Tommy were later.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: We had Kavan and Priya. Okay. They were cut they came in at the very beginning of the week or the end of last week. And then we had Namibia and Victoria

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Come in in the middle of the week. And then at the end here we had Simba and Tommy. So we've had quite a few Bombshells to keep track of this week. I wanna I guess we can kinda mention who these bombshells are kinda feeling, who they're talking to. As of Sunday's episode, it appears that Kavan and Jasmine are together.

Jasmine already seems to be getting a little bit irritated with him, and I don't blame her one bit. She was kind of hoping he'd be a little bit more defensive of her in the challenge. I get that. Priya is now with Lorenzo, which they're another interesting couple because Lorenzo has made it clear to Priya that she is not his number one. He actually told her straight up, you're my number two.

Yasmin is my number one. And she was like, okay. Fine by me. So that's that's where they are. Then we have Victoria and Namibia.

They were both kind of with Sam for a little bit, which Sam, messy.

Dad: Wow. He has been either completely out of the game for a long time, I can't throw stones, but or never had game to go from being someone who wasn't getting any attention to having two bombshells interested in him. And your mother and I debated which one was better looking. I thought Namibia. But then he couldn't have gone more wrong in his interaction between them.

And I still think he is at risk of losing both of them. But we'll see.

Isabella: Yeah. I mean, he's kind of telling them both. Like, when he was when he immediately after he kissed, I believe it was Victoria on the terrace, he came down, spoke with Namibia, and he pretty much told her, like, I kind of wish it was you that I was kissing.

Dad: But before he kissed Victoria, he had already told Namibia, you're my number one. If I was gonna pick someone right now, it would be you.

Isabella: Yeah. So he's just messy, and he seemed sweet to me, and it's still I'm not saying he isn't, but yeah, I see the player side of him for sure.

Dad: But it could be that he is sweet, and he just is not good at this, doesn't do it much, and is floundering around and saying what comes to mind without really thinking it through.

Isabella: Fair. I guess, well, he's like the the lower stakes version of sincere from USA right now. Just kind of keeping two girls on the hook.

Dad: I think it's more by accident. He's

Isabella: Oh, okay. Okay.

Dad: Because if they weren't after him, I don't know that he would have the wherewithal to go after them.

Isabella: That's true. Well, I don't know. I mean, do we even know what his type is? I think he's just kind of going for the people that go for him. I do think that these Bombshells probably went for him because they knew he was available.

Do the Bombshells even actually like him? I don't know.

Dad: Good question.

Isabella: We're gonna find that out though. I mean, this most recent episode, I don't think we saw any of Sam or really those Bombshells. But we're gonna have to it's early days for them, so we'll see more. Other than that, is there anything else you wanna say about UK? I wanna say really quickly that I think my top girl is Jasmine, and I think my top boy is Lorenzo right now.

Even though I do kind of go back and forth on him, I think he is I don't think he treats girls the best. Like he needs to learn how to give a compliment. I also am not a big fan of how he's like comparing girls to cars and I don't love all that, but he is funny, and he kind of made up for a lot of that on this most recent episode when all the girls were coming in being like, Guys, why are you all moping around? And he jumps up and says, I don't have any issue.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Like, just that just made me laugh. So he's funny. He's annoying, but he's funny, and he's my favorite right now too.

Dad: Okay. There is something I want to talk about, and it covers it's broader than The UK, but it came to mind. There are a lot of sayings on there that I'm not familiar with. And going back to me teasing you for sounding British when you said you like a slow burn in the last episode, it made me wonder, are some of these phrases geographic? Meaning, they're they're particular to The United Kingdom plus Ireland, or are these things that I just don't know?

So questions to you. I'll give you a couple. Are these boomer or British? And sorry. It I have to go with the alliteration because boomer British sounds good, and I know that that doesn't necessarily include all of what's covered by Love Island UK specifically, including The Republic Of Ireland.

So first one, Lambo in the driveway. Never heard that before. Do you know what it means? I'm pretty sure that that is British, not boomer.

Isabella: I kind of think that that's just a Lorenzo thing.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Like, don't know if that's specific to either. I think that's just going back to Lorenzo calling the girls cars.

Dad: This one is one I looked up, and it's a reference to the grass is always greener, meaning I left the Lambo in the driveway because I could have had something different. Mhmm. And I think it's a stupid saying, by the way. So next one, ticking boxes.

Isabella: That I believe is British.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Not to say that it's it hasn't been used in America, because I do think that we are picking up some of the British phrases a little bit more. But that is definitely British. That was a big thing on the early UK seasons. They would always say, oh, he's ticking all the boxes.

Dad: I I thought that was the case. I hear on US that they say checking boxes, which of course Mhmm. Sounds like a derivation. But how about they used to say early days, now they say early doors.

Isabella: I think they still use both. Those are interchangeable. I

Dad: But would say British or Boomer?

Isabella: British.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: I'm gonna say British.

Dad: How about dead it?

Isabella: I think that one's also British.

Dad: Yeah. Okay. I cheated on that one. That comes from Caribbean, so it might be broader than just UK and Ireland. Yeah.

How about this is a new one to me, pranging out.

Isabella: That is definitely British because I don't even know what that means.

Dad: I think freaking out or, you know, they used to describe opie. What about dead ass? Boomer or British?

Isabella: Okay. Well, when you say boomer, it's like

Dad: Meaning, I don't know it because I'm older.

Isabella: Then that's the one. Boomer. And

Dad: then, what's the crack? C r a I c.

Isabella: Okay. That is British.

Dad: Technically, it's Irish, but yes.

Isabella: Okay. Well

Dad: He's t, t e a.

Isabella: This is where I think it's maybe both. I think maybe it originated in as a British phrase, but it's definitely an American now.

Dad: Okay. Two more quick ones. Buzzin'?

Isabella: Buzzin', I think, is British, but that's another one that kind of has stretched a little bit.

Dad: And then here's one that I've heard before going back to even my generation, but I heard it this season, boss.

Isabella: That's a new one to me too. That must be like present day UK slang, because I hadn't really heard that in previous seasons.

Dad: Okay. I said those were the last two. I'm sorry. He in a sandwich. That's new to me.

Is that is that British or is that just

Isabella: think that's

Dad: That just Aidan?

Isabella: I think that's just a regular figure of speech. Oh, stop. Come on.

Dad: I'm in a love triangle. I'm in a sandwich.

Isabella: Well, okay. I guess, yeah. I guess it's just Aiden. I guess the proper term would have been love triangle.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Well, that's not oh, guess it was Aiden that said it. Yeah.

Dad: Okay. To be determined, it could be none of the above. It could just be

Isabella: Aiden just Okay. Points

Dad: Okay. So that that's really all I have. Obviously, nothing substantive for The UK.

Isabella: Okay. Alright. Interesting, though. Does it make you feel better that most of them are British and not just you being

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Behind? Yes. Okay. Alright. Well, are we ready to move on

Dad: Move on.

Isabella: To USA? Let's go. Okay. So another busy week for USA. I think probably less busy than UK, but we still have a lot to talk about.

We we started the week with poor, sweet Sean getting dumped, and I'm not sure if we talked about that mayor last week regarding Sean. Did Did I ever mention this to you?

Dad: You didn't. I had heard about it, and of course it comes up in Aftersun .

Isabella: Yeah. Well, you know, I feel kind of bad that he got for context, Sean was dumped from Love Island. He is a former police officer somewhere in Pennsylvania. Before the season started airing, the mayor of that town came out and kind of was hating on Sean for quitting his job because I guess they he's saying they put in a lot of taxpayer dollars to train him and just kind of dogging on that he quit his job as a cop to go beyond reality TV. I think he got a lot of people defending him because, I mean, if you want reality TV is gonna make you more money than being a police officer is.

I mean, people can argue about it, but in the in the present day of influencing, and if you're on a TV show, you can immediately get all these brand deals, I don't fault him one bit for doing that. I mean, he was trying to do what was best for himself. What sucks though is that he was the first one to leave. So my immediate thought was, would the mayor maybe take him back? Or

Dad: Well, and I did watch Aftersun after having said I hate After Sun and Unseen Bits, but it was Sierra and then Tefi, who I'm not familiar with as the cohost. But in that he said it wasn't really clear that he quit. He asked for unpaid leave, and they said they weren't sure that they could do it. So it's not sure it wasn't clear even in the Aftersun interview whether he still works there, is on some kind of hiatus or sabbatical or not. But I can't imagine that he would go back, at least without first trying to monetize this.

I know that sounds a little harsher than I mean, but he's gonna have some offers. Notwithstanding that he's the first one who was booted, he went out on a high note. He didn't I don't think he did anything that came across as negative, at least that would impact him as an influencer. Not that having negative things doesn't often help people.

Isabella: Right. I mean, we've seen

Dad: it. He seems to be pretty immune or not tainted by anything that he did inside the house.

Isabella: Yeah. He does really just seem like a good guy. I think a lot of people were upset that he left. I've seen a lot of people calling for him to be on Casa Amor, and I'm just like, guys, calm down. Like, people are gonna get dumped.

We don't need to bring them all back for Casa Amor. It's it's just I've seen that already for, spoiler alert, Beatrice too. Like, no, we're not bringing them back. Sorry. We're not.

Speaking of Aftersun , before we kind of go back, I do wanna say I I usually do watch Unseen Bits and After Sun. And what I like that they're doing this year is I like that they're seeing their reactions to getting their phones for the first time. I'm always and it might be a little bit scripted, like you said. Like, they obviously know that they're being filmed opening their phone. But I I did always kind of wonder that for the people that get dumped, what is it like to open their phone for the first time?

So I that is interesting to me. It's still not I mean, it's nothing groundbreaking, but it's it's

Dad: Not yet.

Isabella: Not yet. Yeah.

Dad: And and that is one thing. When I was watching, obviously, the producers are looking forward to a situation where someone has a lot of backlash online and opening their phone and being surprised to see it. Like, could you imagine if they had done that for Huda from USA last season and she opens it? That would hopefully, would have edited out because that probably wouldn't have gone or didn't go well when she found out the level of distaste or Right. Pick your word Yeah.

For how she acted in the show.

Isabella: Well, think that goes both ways too because I think also there are people that are fan favorites that I'd like to see them opening their phone and being like, oh my gosh, all these people love me and I had no idea. Like we've had a few people that really got big off the show. One is Leah from a couple seasons ago. She did a whole YouTube video about how she thought she was hated on the show, and then she came home and realized that she was the fan favorite, that everybody loved her, and it was the most insane thing for her to open up her phone for the first time.

Dad: I've already forgotten who that is. You don't need to explain, but and I was trying to rationalize this in my mind the other night. I'm working on it. I got the names down for this season, but I also know that as soon as the season's over, they're out. They're done.

I I will not pay any attention and will completely forget it. It's a capacity issue maybe at my age. I'm running out of space, but I'm peace with it.

Isabella: It's hard when it comes to Love Island because I feel like I usually remember the most memorable islanders. So like that season that I'm talking about, I remember Leah, Janae, and Serena, and of course Rob from that season, that was the season that Kahler was on. You're looking at me like, I got no idea any of those things.

Dad: I'm also thinking of all the other things that I forget as soon as they happen. I I can't couldn't tell you who won the Super Bowl in the last two years or the World Series just because, you know, it's over.

Isabella: Back to Love Island USA. I wanna talk about that bed challenge where they have to find their partner, and once they've found them, they handcuff them together. Now, when they're explaining these rules, they're just telling them, you just have to feel the people and figure out who your partner is. They're not saying, like, you have to make out with every single person on this bed. Right.

They never said that. No. But I do think that

Dad: They didn't say you have to make out with any of them.

Isabella: No. So when they immediately all start doing that, I'm like, okay, they got production behind the scenes being like, yeah, we know what we said, but this is what the game really is.

Dad: Well, and that's a good point with a lot of things in reality television that they will tell you one thing on the screen, but there's probably a lot going on. Like, I got into a fight with someone online about the the mister beast challenge and whether it was income to the people, and it long tangent, but there's always something else being said or not said that matters. And so, yes, the the first contestant, I can't remember which one it was, who she kissed everyone.

Isabella: I don't I don't remember which one it was either. But yeah, I do remember whoever went first definitely did that. What I remember the most about that challenge was

Dad: I think it was Trinity.

Isabella: It wasn't Trinity because we know that Trinity stopped at Bryce. Because I remember she knew it was Bryce and she stopped there and immediately handcuffed him, and Bryce reacted from that. He was like, okay, this is great. So I remember that it was, I don't know who it was, but the other shocker, I guess, maybe not even shocker, but Melanie going back and forth from Corbin to Sincere, back to Corbin, back to Sincere, and her trying to tell us that she didn't know which one was which. I mean

Dad: Well, in fairness, they kept saying, how could you not tell a five eleven versus a six two? Okay. That's she wasn't measuring them. Maybe if if he had a bigger giant head and shoulders or something like that, but she was just kissing them. I do agree with you.

I think that she was just taking advantage of the opportunity. And she at one point, they showed her saying something along the lines of, can't tell which one's better, which doesn't sound like I can't tell which one is my man.

Isabella: Right. I think she knew exactly what she was doing, and she saw an opportunity, and she took it, which is fine. I mean, it's a challenge, so it's not the first time we've seen something like that a challenge. Of course, Sincere was not a big fan of that, but we'll get to Sincere a little bit more. I do think the the way that they brought in the Bombshells was very interesting to me, especially the the female bombshells coming in, just kind of inserting themselves while the other girls are going, and they were kind of starting to figure it out, but they were all still blindfolded, so I thought that was good.

And then bringing in Caleb, the guy Bombshell at the end, and just having him go down the line and kiss every single girl.

Dad: Right. Right. Oh, which reminds me, someone in the show said, oh, he's a cowboy. He's he's from North Carolina.

Isabella: I know.

Dad: He lives in Charleston. It people from the South aren't automatically cowboys. I'm pretty sure that that's out West. Now, he does wear it later in another episode, a cowboy hat and cowboy boots. But, oh, he's a cowboy.

Isabella: I think the northerners like to say that, and I think a lot of the southerners just kind of go along with it. Because, I mean, we know Kenzie is from Kennesaw. We know that Kennesaw, Georgia is not full of cowboys. Like, maybe few, but we're just southerners. So I do think that they sometimes just go along with it.

I think even Caleb, the guy who's being called the cowboy, I think he's even just going along with it.

Dad: Right. Right.

Isabella: He's like, I mean, it's not an insult, so whatever. Call me a cowboy.

Dad: Well, another quick quote that I wrote down when Bryce said in a confessional, there's no moral paragon here. I thought, okay, that might be the two biggest words put together in the history, if not definitely this season. I thought, wow, impressive.

Isabella: I really enjoy Bryce. I really do. He is my number two guy right now behind Casey. And while we're on the topic of Bryce, I wanna talk about Bryce and Trinity. I really like them together.

I think Bryce had a moment this week where I think honestly, I think Zach got in his head. I think Zach is kind of telling him, like, oh, he doesn't really know about you guys. Like, I don't know if Trinity's really into it. I don't know if you're really into her. I feel like kind of you have more fun when she's not around.

I don't even remember what exactly he was saying, but he was definitely getting into Bryce's head a little bit. So Bryce and Trinity have a conversation, and Trinity tells him that she wants more affection, which I do wanna say is a little bit confusing because early on, she was telling him that she didn't like kissing, But now you want more affection. I mean, I know it's been a couple weeks now, but okay, great. I don't like how Bryce immediately goes and is like, I wanna talk to Kayda and see if there's something there. Of course, Kayda The face that Kayda gave him when he when he starts being like, I just wanted to see if there was something there between us.

And she just immediately rejects him. I love that. But I I'm really rooting for Bryce and Trinity. I am. I don't know if they're gonna make it.

I don't know if they really are super compatible, but they're the ones that I'm rooting for the most at the moment, I think. Behind Casey and Anaya. But Casey and Anaya just don't get enough screen time. I don't think we've seen any issues between them other than the little blip at the challenge where she was like, that's not funny.

Dad: Right. Well, and this goes back to supporting my UK plus Ireland, everyone is more polite hypothesis because Bryce went to what's his name? Zach. And asked for permission to talk to Kayda in advance. And I don't know that the typical American would have reacted the same way.

Yes. He was a little bit miffed, but he didn't get upset. It happened. Bryce gets shot down, comes back and says, here's what happened. I feel awkward.

It's it's over. It's solved. It within one episode, it's completely all good.

Isabella: Yeah. It was definitely weird, though. And I think I've said this before. I'm not a fan of Zach, and I haven't really been able to put my finger on it. I think he's he's a little bit wishy washy right now.

Like, I I he was confusing me when he after that, was it the bed challenge where he was telling her that he kind of almost feels like he wants to be closed off. And he maybe didn't say those exact words, but he did mention closed off. And when it comes to Love Island, the phrase closed off is pretty serious, especially when it's early on like this. So for him to say the words closed off, you could see Cate's eyes kind of light up a little bit.

Dad: I know, but I think that this is much ado about nothing. It's sort of like on some of these other reality shows where someone says, I'm falling for you, which you know is like an early way of saying, I'm falling in love with you. I'm in love with you. This he said, I'm sort of thinking about us being closed off. Something along those lines.

He definitely had the had the caveat. Mhmm. And sure, she focused on the words, but she didn't hear the caveat at the beginning. And it it was a a little bit of drama for a few minutes, and then it's already gone.

Isabella: Yeah. No. I agree. It's definitely already gone since then. I just I didn't like it just came off weird to me because one minute he's talking about being potentially closed off, and then the next minute when the girls are gone getting ready for bed, he's talking about like, oh, I don't know why I feel like I'm in a relationship already.

Like, saying it negatively to Bryce. So then I'm thinking like, okay. So which one is it though? Like, do you do you want to be this way, or is it freaking you out? Like, which one?

I think yeah. He's just very wishy washy. And then when it comes to he started talking to the new Bombshell Jen. I'm thinking, I thought you weren't into blondes. So why are you talking to a blonde?

Like, your whole thing with Kenzie was that you don't like blondes.

Dad: I don't know that he said he doesn't like blondes. I thought he said that's not my normal type.

Isabella: Yeah. I guess I need to give him a little bit more grace, but it was kinda like, oh, he fancies the new Bombshell, but I thought that's not his type.

Dad: I think you just don't like Zach because he's not from The US. And you I don't get like the interlopers on The US. That's it.

Isabella: I guess I could I I should probably say it's it I don't love it when they bring UK people on US, just because I feel like it's not realistic. But I I don't like him for multiple reasons, and none of them I can actually spell out for you. But yeah, we'll see. Maybe I I like him and Kayda as a couple. They seem sweet together, but him alone, I'm not really a fan.

So should we talk about Sincere and Melanie and Sol? Oh, Sincere, I don't know what don't know what he thinks he's doing here. He is he scares me actually because he is saying the exact right things to both of these women. He's keeping Melanie happy while he's talking to her, and then he's telling Sol the exact things that every girl wants to hear. I mean, I wrote down one of the things he said.

He was telling Sol that he feels like this is love at first sight. And then he's going back to Melanie, telling Melanie, oh my gosh, no, I'm just exploring. Like, it's not a you're always my number one. You just told Sol that it felt like love at first sight. So which one is it sincere?

Like, which what what is the truth? You're not being sincere.

Dad: I I don't know that it gives a whole lot of thought to how he moves, as they say on the show. But he's saying what comes to mind in the moment and not really thinking through that he's not being consistent. I'm not sure how much he remembers what he says or the context. And I'm not trying to give him a pass

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: But he doesn't seem like he is as manipulative on purpose or Machiavellian as some people have been in prior seasons. So I'm I'm not I know it's not going to end well for for him or at least one of the the ladies. It is. My bet is currently that it's gonna be he's gonna go with Sol, or he should go with Sol, but he's going to probably stick with Melody.

Isabella: I actually think he is probably more suited for Sol. They seem to have a little bit more in common, so I don't know. We will see. I do feel bad for Sol. She got pied a whole bunch of times in the pie competition, which I don't think we we only saw her get pied twice.

I think it probably happened a lot more than that, and we just didn't see it. So I do think that that sucks. I don't I think she's feeling pretty left out, so I feel for her. I really did like when she kissed Gabriel and she immediately was like, I don't know, something about the pheromones, I did not like that at all.

Dad: She said she could taste pheromones, which I thought, I've not heard that before. Don't think

Isabella: But I loved that, though.

Dad: I don't think that's a boomer.

Isabella: That made me like her a little bit more.

Dad: I might have to look into that because who knows, people have bizarre things they can, you know, smell what they taste or taste colors. I I can't remember the name of that. Like synesthesia or something like that. Yeah. So maybe this is what some sort of variation on that.

She

Isabella: looks Even her like face though?

Dad: Yeah. She looks like she just drank spoiled milk.

Isabella: Killed me. That killed me. Because someone reacting like that, I don't we don't see that very often on this show. It was just kind of nice to see.

Dad: Well, especially because he thought he was a little he had this look on his face like, yeah.

Isabella: He thinks that every girl likes it.

Dad: Right. Right. Probably he's probably usually right.

Isabella: Yeah. He is a very good looking man. I will give that to Gabriel. He I think he's the best looking one on there right now. That's just my taste, of course.

So we saw that whole game go down, then there was voting for who the Bombshells should couple up with. Now this was supposed to air on Thursday, and the Love Island USA app crashed. So they had to move the re coupling back to Friday. I just wanna say

Dad: Wait. Before we go on, do you know why the app crashed? Is it because viewership is up beyond

Isabella: Yeah. Think it's

Dad: prior years or just some glitch?

Isabella: Just too many people.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Yeah. So I think it crashed due to volume of people wanting to vote. And I do just wanna say, this is not the first time they've done this. They've done it before where America votes for who the Bombshells are gonna couple up with. I will say that I think the way that they do that, it is worst case scenario for the Bombshells themselves.

Because one, they don't get to choose who they're with. Now granted, I will say this season I think it worked out how it should. The Bombshells did kind of end up with who they were talking to the most, but it makes it weird for the people that are uncoupled because of this, I guess. Like, they have to now wonder, like, did did America do this because they don't like me? Or I I just think it's such a weird way to go about it, and it it works.

Don't get me wrong. Like, we the last season especially, we had so much drama with putting new bombshell with Jeremiah, Huda's guy. So I I get what they're doing, but I do think that if I'm in there and I'm a bombshell and I hear that America's voting on who I couple up with, that's kind of worst case scenario for me.

Dad: Except you're guaranteed to stay on the show.

Isabella: Yeah. But usually if you're a bombshell, you're guaranteed to stay on the show for at least a week anyway. I mean, they usually just let you choose first.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: So I do think it worked out this time, but I would probably hate to hear that if I was on the show, to be honest. So then we did get the re coupling, and the matchings were Sincere and Sol. Melanie, of course, was not not cool with that. She's all up in her emotions. Then we have Kenzie and Caleb, which I think was pretty obvious.

The one that was not quite as obvious is Gabriel and Jen. I do think that Jen was talking to Gabriel the most on the show, so that's why it makes sense. But it it definitely was the most questionable one. So because of that, we have three singles now, Melanie, Bea, and Corbin, because Corbin was with Kenzie. Speaking of Corbin, I mean, Corbin, can I have a kiss?

Dad: He just I guess at least he asked.

Isabella: I at least he asked. I just it's so cringe. It's I mean, can I have a kiss? I That

Dad: was a pretty good impression.

Isabella: So all three of them were single. They decide to have Corbin choose between the two girls, and the girl who's not chosen is dumped. So dad, who was dumped?

Dad: Oh, I spaced out for a second.

Isabella: Come on.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So who was dumped? I don't know. Bea.

Dad: Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Beatriz.

Beatriz. Beatriz. Yeah. Which I saw someone was making fun of someone saying it the correct way, so I'll just stick with Bea. But, yes.

Bummed. I thought that much like my view of Ellie on UK, she seems like the one who would be the most fun to hang out with. And, as you shared with me, she had some really good one liners. And she I could see her coming back, but this might just be me wish having wishful thinking on her coming back for for Casa Amor.

Isabella: I think it's a lot of wishful thinking, these people wanting the islanders to to come back for Casa cAmor. It's only ever happened one time in UK and USA, and that was they brought back Molly for Zach Zachariah, I think. You wouldn't remember these names at Totally. This Yeah. But they've all I'm pretty sure they've only done it once before.

Dad: Did Tony not come back?

Isabella: Tony was always there.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Tony from UK last season. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, I think it sucks that Bea got dumped. I'm not sure who would've been the better option, to be honest.

I will say I've seen a lot of mixed feelings about her online, but I think that's mostly because she's maybe not as bubbly and, like, light. And she's she's just not, like, really a girly girl, which I love that about her. I think if she would've been around longer, she would've really become a major fan favorite. I think the only reason she had mixed feelings is because people saw her being blunt, kinda standing up, and getting Melanie checking Melanie that one time, which she did say walking out the village. Was like, You guys check each other.

I I like that from her. It would've been nice to see more of her, but someone's gotta go. So it is what it is. Anything else you want us to mention on Love Island? Either one, I think we've been on it for a while, so we should probably move on.

Dad: Let's move on.

Isabella: Okay. Let's go with Summer House. Let's talk Summer House. We have watched the part three, final part of the reunion.

Dad: Well, I guess

Isabella: Well, final part of the reunion.

Dad: True.

Isabella: We'd have been we have confirmation that there will be an extra episode. I guess probably going over what's happened since the reunion and kind of the end of the reunion, I felt like it was kind of Yeah. And it didn't really nothing was ever resolved, so I guess I understand what they're doing by adding another part. The only problem is that we see in the preview Amanda starting to, like, question things, and that's nice and all, except we know as we're watching part three of the reunion that West and Amanda are in Italy together. So whatever Amanda was reconsidering didn't really hit.

Like, she didn't follow through on it. She's still with him. So

Dad: Do you follow them on social media?

Isabella: I don't follow I think I used to follow Amanda and I unfollowed her because I'm team Sierra, of course. I don't think I've I don't I don't follow many reality TV people. I usually just kind of see what's being said about them.

Dad: I only ask because that came up in this episode, in the prior episode, where they were talking about how the two of them kept posting bread crumbing things on Instagram and TikTok about where they were, and I didn't know if, at that time, you were maybe following and seeing that live.

Isabella: At the time, I I don't think I really saw it live. Of course, when the official news came out and they released their statement, I think that's when a lot of people were kind of going back in and looking at what they had been posting over the last six months to a year or so. So that's kind of where all that bread crumbing stuff came from, because they were able to go back and see what was she saying at that time. Right. And it's all kind of sketchy.

Dad: I have three things I'll lead off with. Sorry to steal your thunder, but number one, you called it on at least West being on beta blockers or a beta blocker in the reunion. Now, only admitted to that. Who knows whether he's on a mix of something, and then notably Amanda kept quiet. So you called it in advance.

Kudos. The second one, when West said something along the lines of, I've been less than clear with a zillion women. Maybe not the best way to explain yourself. Maybe you just say, like, I'm sorry for having not been clear with.

Isabella: You. Comment on that too.

Dad: Right. Sorry. And then Andy, at the beginning of episode three, looking at the card saying, it's meaty. Those are the things that caught my attention.

Isabella: That's it. It's meaty. Yep. No, I remember that too. And and I he was like, this is it?

Like, this is for the end?

Dad: Right.

Isabella: I think I I did make a note on that comment by West of saying, he he's basically in this part three, he's basically admitting to being a bad guy. Like, he's not even disputing it anymore. Everything that is said, he's pretty much like, yep. Yeah. You're right.

So he's full on acknowledging that he's not a good person. And maybe he's just doing that to just kind of be agreeable or whatever, but

Dad: If he has a publicist or a PR person, they're not really helping him out.

Isabella: He needs to fire them. Yeah. They're doing a terrible job. There are so many things though that I just want to know, like, did he do that? And I could probably answer my own question.

The answer to that why is usually for publicity. Like, I had the question of, and they brought this up too at the reunion, of Sierra at one point posted a really good photo of herself, and West made a comment, like a pretty flirty comment on her photo. And Andy asked, like, so why did you do that if you were at the time kind of talking to Amanda? And he said, I don't know. And I'm thinking, I don't know why he would do that either.

But then I'm realizing, oh, you know what he's doing? The audience loves Sierra so much, and he wants to get back on Sierra's good side. And so he wants But he wants the audience to see that he's on her good side. He doesn't care to actually be on her good side. He wants the perception to be that he's on Sierra's good side.

Dad: Okay. This is out of the blue, but I know you're a huge sports fan. They always show that he is a sports writer or sports journalist or something like that. Have you ever looked at anything he's written? Does he still do it?

He

Isabella: works for Complex. I don't know if you know that.

Dad: Clue what that is.

Isabella: Okay. Well, it's it's like a media company that they cover I guess he's in the sports side of it. I haven't seen a ton of things that he's been in. I've seen like a Instagram video here and there of him interviewing people, but I don't think he's like I think he's more of like an influencer.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Like, I think that's really where he his

Dad: Or was.

Isabella: Or yeah. I guess, technically, he still probably is, but yeah. He does have his own podcast with some WNBA player. So he's in the sports world. I just wouldn't say he's like I guess he did used to play football.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't keep up with him enough to know for sure. I don't have a ton more to say about Summer House. It's just really what was throwing me was the complete lack of emotion from Amanda specifically.

I mean, West, I get a little bit, but Amanda, not even a single tear. I mean, Sierra finally did crack and started crying when she's talking about how close they were and how that that, like, they were best friends. And finally, Sierra, like, cracks a tear. Amanda, she's just like, yeah.

Dad: Well, it wasn't zero emotion on her part. She did show emotion when she started to get defensive and then turn things around instead of saying, I'm sorry, falling on her sword, pick your cliche or metaphor. She would inevitably turn it around and make it about herself, which reminds me about a cast member on Southern Hospitality when we come to it. And I thought, wow, you showed some emotion, but at the wrong time. So it it it, again, if she's getting coached by someone Right.

Absolutely. So if she's getting coached by someone, she should also look for a different coach because it it wouldn't be too hard to say. You just have to go in there and say you're sorry. Say you're sorry. No excuses.

Say you're sorry.

Isabella: I mean, she kind of was getting coached by West when he was like, you just need to be not so defensive. What did he even say? He was like

Dad: Am I talking enough? Am I talking too much?

Isabella: No. You're not actually, West.

Dad: You're not And talking then it I I just am being quiet because I think it might help you look better if if I don't say as much. Something along those lines where I think he was just trying to excuse not being in the mix.

Isabella: Yeah. They're just both losers. Honestly, the only redeeming quality of the part three to me was Lindsay Hubbard. She started to get sick of it towards the end. I I forget what West was even talking about, but she blurts out, lie.

Just like, she was like, I can't take it anymore, Andy. Like, It's all lies. I can't do it anymore. And then when they're finally deciding to wrap up, Lindsay comes back with her wine glass and sits down and says, Andy, I feel like we haven't really resolved anything today. Like, feel like we're kind of in the same place we started at.

And Andy's like, okay, well, should we start over?

Dad: I noticed the wine glass, it might have been water. I don't know. It was clear. I was I thought, this is unusual that someone's drinking before the end.

Isabella: I think if anyone can do it, Lindsay can. Sure. But, yeah.

Dad: The only thing else I have to say for that is I'm looking forward to next week, whatever they're gonna call the post reunion. But it might just be because it's good marketing and editing on the previews.

Isabella: Yeah. I do have I'm excited for it too. I have a bad feeling that it's gonna be kind of one of those that we've kind of already seen the best parts in the preview. But but I'm looking forward to it. We'll see if we get any more information.

I mean, even Wes just sitting down with Kyle and being like, I think I've loved her for a long time. Like, that was weird to hear.

Dad: I think this might have been a Watch What Happens Live with Jessie and I can't remember the woman's name, who used to be on The Bachelor. But and she was The Bachelorette. Anyway, Andy made an announcement of how they solved the surreptitious recording, the audio that was leaked. And I can't remember the name of the actress who

Isabella: Jennifer Lawrence.

Dad: Okay. Yeah. So her I don't know if it was her specifically as much as maybe her online fans may I don't know if she has some sort of thing, like podcast or something, but he said that her sleuths solved it. Have you seen anything since then that gives more detail?

Isabella: The only thing I've seen is that apparently Jennifer Lawrence has some burner accounts online. Like, I guess she has this TikTok account that's not under her name at all, and apparently it's been discovered. I haven't looked deeper into that, like I don't know what the account even is, but I have read that her burner account was discovered. So I'm not sure if maybe that has anything to do with this, but she is very online. I know that about Jennifer Lawrence.

Dad: No. I just am curious as to what about the audio someone, regardless of whether they're famous or not, how they figured out who it was. Maybe I don't know. It's maybe a little bit too technical.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't think we're gonna know that. We're not gonna figure that out.

Dad: We'll move on.

Isabella: Well, think we can move to In the City, because that's kind of the same people. I do wanna Amanda moving out, it is pretty crazy that they just haven't decided to get a divorce at this point in the show. Obviously we know now they're getting divorced, but she's moving out and she's signing a year long lease, and they are still just trying to work it out. That to me, you're not trying to work it out if you're moving away and it's not month to like, you're moving to a new apartment.

Dad: Yeah. I find myself not caring at all about the storyline because we already know how it ends.

Isabella: Yeah. I just

Dad: It's more annoying in that, yeah, sure, I can see what she's doing and decide, oh, she's even shiftier than I thought. But on the other hand, we've seen the end of the movie. And Mhmm. Plus, they've lived in New York a long time. I you have to know that it's probably not easy to find any apartment, one.

Two, a fully furnished one that goes month to month. I think that's a hotel. Yeah. Or if you're going to find one, it's gonna be a year lease. And so I don't know if it's just them not thinking things through or she's just telegraphing what she really wanted to do and trying to spin it differently.

She wanted to get a divorce. She wanted to separate. She wanted to have her time away. I don't know. But it's it's not top of mind.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't have much else to say about In the City, but I do wanna mention that scene where Kyle and Amanda go to dinner or something together, and they're kind of asking each other if they're still in love with one another.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: That scene was so uncomfortable because first off, Amanda says yes, and I believe her. I do. And then she asks the same question to Kyle, and he just starts, like he just, like, busts out laughing. I thought that was so bizarre.

Dad: I think he laughed after she called him liar face. Right? She said, You were such a bad liar. Yeah. But he must have he had a look on his face where she probably knew that It

Isabella: was very he didn't much have an an uncomfortable laugh, though. He's all mad at all of his friends for getting him into this position about the whole no sparks thing. Dude, you did it to yourself. Like, he's mad at all his friends for spreading it around and telling his girlfriend, if you wouldn't have said that, then it wouldn't have come back to you. This

Dad: this is a great example of when I'm watching through the season, certain things come up and I think to myself, oh, I can't wait for the reunion. Right? This if I spend too much time thinking about it, I'll just get irritated. Yes. What's the guy's name?

The Italian guy?

Isabella: Andrea.

Dad: Yeah. That predates my time for Summer House. But Andrea says murky, and he later admits that that was his interpretation. Okay. Okay.

That's not that big of a deal, but that guy focused on it. And then but you're right. The spark thing was him.

Isabella: Mhmm. And they would have never gotten to the murky if he never said the spark thing.

Dad: Right. Right. And he has to know he's on television. Like, it's going to be known. It's not a secret.

But this is his first time

Isabella: It is on his first season. I know a lot of them, even though for people like us, it's hard to believe, a lot of them do say, like, you just kind of forget the cameras are there. And it is I'm like, how do you forget that, that there's a camera in your face? But so many of them have said that before, that there's gotta be some truth to that. I don't know.

But regardless, it was so stupid.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Okay. Should we do you have anything else to say about Summer House in the City or No. Okay. Let's move on to I have a few things to say about Southern Hospitality.

Dad: Ditto.

Isabella: I'm sure it's gonna be about our girl Emmy.

Dad: A 100%.

Isabella: I just I need to point out something that she said that just made me laugh out loud when I heard it. When she was giving her apology to Brad, which, by the way, I think it was a decent apology.

Dad: Better

Isabella: than Better, for sure. I still don't know if she means it, but any whatever. When she said she said, I will never know what it feels like to be a black African American male in America. I don't know why that just made me laugh so much. Like, you could have just said black in America, girl.

Dad: I think that she was coached, but she probably just fumbled.

Isabella: She definitely no. She definitely fumbled on that because it was we know what you mean.

Dad: Yes. Yes. She's trying to say all of the right terms without any of the wrong ones, but then added some extra and became redundant and it ended up sounding awkward.

Isabella: Yeah. But, yeah, that just made me laugh out loud. The other thing about Emmy that I wanna say is, I think it's really funny that she keeps saying, like, I don't wanna I don't wanna talk about my fiance. He's not here. He's not part of this.

And then Andy just continues to talk about him and ask questions about him. He's like, okay. I don't care.

Dad: And some of his facial expressions when she was talking.

Isabella: I don't have a ton more to say about Southern Hospitality besides just the Emmy of it all. But something that weirded me out was Justin is talking about his new relationship with Charlie, which I do wanna give just a little bit of context that I kind of personally know Charlie. We were in the same Rush group. We both went to Clemson together. So Charlie, if you're listening, hey girl.

Anyways, Justin's talking about his new relationship with Charlie, and the camera pans over to Maddie, and she's rolling her eyes. And we never got usually Andy will be like, Maddie, what what do you have something to say? And that never happened. So what what is her problem? Like, do we know?

Dad: No idea.

Isabella: Okay. Well, clearly Maddie has an issue with Justin, and I think maybe it comes back around to that other girl that Justin was seeing, and maybe Maddie has issues with that. I don't know. But I thought that was weird. Something not important, but just made me think of this.

Maddie freezing her eggs at 28 years old.

Dad: Seems a little early.

Isabella: It does, but I'm kind of thinking, oh my god, I'm 28 years old. Do I need to freeze my eggs right now?

Dad: Let's not have your major life decisions be so influenced by reality television.

Isabella: Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. And then Mia. Mia acknowledging that she slept with West and was telling Sally to get in on it.

Like, how bizarre. And then I do kind of have a feeling that Mia maybe cheated on her boyfriend. We don't have that confirmation, but I could see it.

Dad: Well, she did admit to sleeping with the guy in question. It was someone different than West. But she said no, it was after we broke up. And she was very quick to say, I'm not denying it. Slept with the guy.

It's just you've got your timing wrong. Yeah. And then that back and forth between the left side of the set and the right side of the set, I was definitely on Molly and Mia's side. I thought that the others were just acting and it might be an age thing because there's a dramatic age difference with some of the ones over on the right, Lake and Michols especially. I also love how Michols used gaslighting twice, and Andy called him out and said, that's not gaslighting.

And then someone else, Molly, said, it's not gaslighting if you call someone out for being wrong. And then the other one the note I had was Emmy saying, wasn't concerned about my personal safety. It was my emotional safety. And I wrote down that's some bullshit. That is a classic trying to recover the terms like, oh, oh, yeah.

That's what I really meant.

Isabella: See, this is funny, and this is probably gonna be our kind of a little bit of a generational difference. That was actually the first thing she said that made sense to me.

Dad: Right. But it makes sense because she's backfilling. That that's not what she meant at the time.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I don't know why I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. I think she's wrong.

She is the one that's wrong in the situation.

Dad: I hope she doesn't leave because I I Oh, We need her on the show. Yeah. Fascinated with her eyes, and the she she could tone down the crying because it's a weapon and or a defense mechanism to deflect, but not really, I think, genuine. And again, who I have no idea. I'm speculating about all this.

But do not want her to leave the show.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. So good season of that. Yeah. That's the end of, I guess, season three of Southern Hospitality.

I'm assuming it's gonna get renewed again. It better be.

Dad: I would think so because they had a real reunion this time, so that's usually a positive sign.

Isabella: Yeah. I do think yeah. That's a good sign. Go

Dad: on. I know that Southern Charm is recorded because when I was there and ran into a few of the cast members, they introduced another woman who had darker hair, and I can't remember her name, but she's like, I'm the new one.

Isabella: Okay.

Dad: And then when we took pictures, she was very particular she was not in any of the pictures that were taken. So

Isabella: she Okay. So she's like trying to be secret.

Dad: Yes. And I think I've I I don't think. I've read since then that there are rumors of a new cast member on the show showing up in town and being recorded.

Isabella: Okay. Well, you'll have to tell us more about that when Southern Charm comes back around. Yeah. Because for context, you do hang out in Charleston a lot. You have some family and friends there.

So he has run into a few of the Southern Charmers before. Yes. And he he can

Dad: For another day.

Isabella: Yeah. That's a that's a story for another pod. I think we have a couple more things to cover. We have Rhode Island and Atlanta, and I don't have much on either of them. Really, just a couple quick notes about Rhode Island.

Think I did think that Liz had a good apology to Alicia. Like, it seemed genuine. They've clearly been friends for so long, so they seem to be good.

Dad: Quite the recovery. Because I think when we spoke about this last week, we're both not really fans of hers, and I thought it was gonna be hard for her if she continued to have the same Mhmm. Response. But unlike some of the other people we've just been talking about, she might have better people coaching her like, hey. Yeah.

If you want this to continue, you might need to suck it up and say you're sorry, mean it.

Isabella: Yeah. I also just have to give credit when it's due. If you're gonna give a good apology, then I'm gonna give you credit for it. The only other thing is Rulla, she just does not care that her husband is cheating on her. She knows he is, and she does not care.

That's what I've I've just come to that conclusion.

Dad: That's certainly how it appears. I think that there's more going on. I mentioned in the last podcast the Bravo Docket, and they went through some of this. There's there are things going on behind the scenes that I think might have prevented either of them from saying things. At least, I haven't looked into the pleadings myself, but it's there may be more to it.

I don't know that she doesn't care because that may come out in next week's episode.

Isabella: Mhmm. Yeah. Well, that's coming to a close too. The reunion, I'm not sure when the reunion for sure is, but I know that they've filmed it. So it's coming.

Now, Atlanta. I thought the this episode was okay. There were just a few things that I thought was funny. Thought Cynthia Bailey was really being funny. She what was she saying?

One of the girls was throwing some shade at Angela and calling her, like, Bigfoot. I forget who it was. It might have been Kelly. And Cynthia came back at that and said, hey, be nice to the Bigfoot community. Like, I am in the Bigfoot community.

I don't know. That made me laugh. She threw some shade at Peter Thomas. Do you remember who Peter Thomas is?

Dad: One of her husbands.

Isabella: Her yeah. Her her first husband from the show.

Dad: Yes. The guy with the silver Yes. Beard from the island.

Isabella: She threw some shade at him because she was introducing her new boyfriend, and he she was like, you know, unlike other people, he doesn't like to get all up in women's business. And that is a very clear Peter Thomas shade. You know Peter Thomas is in prison right now.

Dad: No. I didn't know that.

Isabella: I think he gets out soon.

Dad: Okay. I think you're grasping at straws. The show is so bad.

Isabella: Oh, come

Dad: on. So bad.

Isabella: Like It's more it's more nostalgic for me. Right. It it is.

Dad: But it's you love the thought of it, and the actual execution this season is horrible. I said last week it was like homework, this one it was like a test.

Isabella: They just haven't figured out the right cast. They've got the pieces. They just haven't figured it out. I thought Kelly giving her little drunk speech at what's his name Shamea's husband's surprise party when Kelly was just wasted and gets up on the table and gives him a speech. Thought that was funny.

You're just he's given me a face of, like, I am just not interested interested whatsoever. Whatsoever.

Dad: I remember that. I think I might have been reading at that time.

Isabella: Probably. Porshma and Giselle Bryant, we saw we had a Giselle siding. They're wearing Clemson colors. I just had to shout that out. Big Clemson fans over here.

We both went there. And then the last thing that I wanna mention with Atlanta. They kept bringing up, oh, Shamea is sleeping with Hawks and Falcons players. And anybody that knows me knows that I am along with reality TV, I'm a massive sports fan, especially when it comes to Atlanta sports like the Hawks and the Falcons. So I am immediately thinking, okay, I don't there's this probably isn't true, but if it were true, which players would it be?

So that was just kinda fun for me to think about. I would have that conversation with you, but I don't think you're very well versed in the current Hawks players and the current Falcons players.

Dad: As bad as I am with the names of people on reality TV, I'm even worse with sports figures.

Isabella: Yeah. He's not he's not as big of a sports guy as you might think that he would be

Dad: as Not like I used to.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: He's just kinda old.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, that I thought was interesting. Just a little bit of worlds colliding. So but think we have a new season of Below Deck Med. I think we can get into that a little bit more next week.

But

Dad: Yes. Really quickly, bringing back Joe Bradley is a little bit insane, but probably more of a producer choice than

Isabella: For Captain For sure. I also Nathan definitely had a hair transplant. Like, 100% he had a hair transplant.

Dad: Oh, okay.

Isabella: But we can we can do we can talk about that more next time. I think we're running out of time.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: But thank you for tuning in again. Share with your friends, and feel free to reach out to us if you have any questions, concerns, you have any ideas for us. But thank you for listening, and we'll see you next Monday.

Dad: Yep. We really appreciate it, especially if you have any ideas for ongoing topics or games or otherwise. Mhmm. Love to hear from you.

Isabella: That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

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"Give me 10" - Love Island UK/USA, Summer House and more

We cover the first episodes of Love Island UK and Love Island USA, as well as the Summer House reunion, In the City, Southern Hospitality, Real Housewives of Atlanta and Real Housewives of Rhode Island. We also play a game to show how Dad can't remember cast members' names.

Isabella: Much to discuss today. We have Love Island USA, Love Island UK, we have Summer House in the city, and we also have a couple things to say about Real Housewives of Atlanta and Real Housewives of Rhode Island. So but we're gonna definitely start with Love Island. We know that's the big headliner here.

Dad: Top of mind.

Isabella: Top of mind, yes. We did just finish the latest episode of U. K, the episode that came out on Sunday, June 7, which is when we are recording. Should we get into U. K.

First or USA?

Dad: What

Isabella: do Sure. You

Dad: But if anyone hasn't watched it, spoiler alert.

Isabella: Spoiler alert for everything, and that's just kind of going forward. We're talking about stuff. Love Island UK, my first thoughts. I think they're taking a page out of USA, out of their book. Because I think I don't know if you would agree with me.

I would say that UK has fallen in the past few years, and USA has kind of taken over. And I think that UK has realized that and they've taken it on board. I think that the girls they have are stunning. They have great personalities. They seem a little bit more diverse.

They seem more natural. They seem fun. I'm already loving all the girls, so that's positive. What do you think, Dad?

Dad: I agree. It's interesting you brought that up because coincidentally the other night I looked up to see what the viewership was, and originally UK had much larger audience, but then USA came back at least last season and beat it. And I completely agree with you. Overall, I'm not a fan of any of the men on any of the shows, but the women on UK are much more engaging. They seem more rational, balanced, which, you know, has pros and cons in reality TV.

And I don't know if we want to get into specifics in a bit, but the other thing is that comparing USA to UK, The USA was just a little bit cheesy and overproduced. Too much slow motion at the intro, the first episode, and too much Very

Isabella: raunchy too.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Like immediately.

Dad: Right, right. This one, they just got right into it. There's no super long background about the people and them standing on the beach moving in awkward ways in slow motion, which is always so cheesy. So I just Did you

Isabella: slow dance?

Dad: Oh my gosh. Yeah. So I'm excited about both, but yes, I agree with you. I like UK better.

Isabella: So let's dive into it. Who right now is your favorite girl and your favorite guy?

Dad: In The UK or

Isabella: both? In UK.

Dad: Ellie? Mhmm. By far. And I just said that I'm not a fan of any of the guys. I I don't know if I ever am a huge fan of the guys for some reason, but may maybe Lorenzo, although even though George looks like a Targaryen, I have I think that he speaks really well and he seems to think through what he's saying.

I don't know that I'm going to like how he's acting and how it's received by the other women, but I was surprised that he seems more normal than the others. None of them are really off or there's any problem with them, but I don't know that I've picked a guy or if I ever do.

Isabella: Yeah. I think that sometimes you like the funny guys. And I don't know if we really know who that is yet. I could see Aiden being that guy, but he's already annoying me too. I mean, he already can't decide between Ellie and Yasmin.

Seems like he's decided on Yasmin for now. But then, of course well, should we talk about the dumping? The fake dumping?

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: So George and Yasmin came in as bombshells, and they were met outside by Maya Jama, who told them in twenty four hours, you have to dump two people. And it can be anyone, and it can be for any reason. So immediately, great idea. First of all, I mean, I feel like UK never really wants to shake it up like that. So I like that.

Now when the dumping comes around, they dump Samraj and Ellie. Diabolical. Diabolical to pick those two. I get what they were doing, but

Dad: And it was just such a bummer because we had just gotten done saying how much I like Ellie. I think that she's one of the prettier ones, but also I love her personality. She's funny. The Scottish accent is killing me. It's so awesome.

But then she's also

Isabella: I tink?

Dad: No. The tink, I think, is the Irish.

Isabella: Oh, you're right. You're right.

Dad: But she just seems like she doesn't care, and she's very balanced. Again, that's a trade off. You want a little bit of crazy, we'll come to someone on The US side who's a good counterbalance. So a big bummer, but didn't tell the audience what happened shortly thereafter.

Isabella: Well, spoiler spoiler alert, obviously, but they got into the van, they got a text, I got a text, and said that they have a second chance. So they actually went and spent the night in the hideaway, and on the most recent episode we saw that two bombshells came in for them. Now, what's interesting about one of these bombshells, dad?

Dad: It's Aiden's brother.

Isabella: Aiden's brother is going on a date with Ellie, who was just with Aiden. Genius. Really, genius idea to bring in the brother.

Dad: I thought it was a little odd that both you and your mother immediately asked if they'd had hair transplants.

Isabella: They just look like they have a really good head of hair, and they could have great genes, but I also know that hair transplants are popular in The UK, and they both definitely have some turkey teeth.

Dad: I was familiar with turkey teeth. I had not known that hair transplants were so common in The UK, especially that age. The Kavan, is that how you say his last name?

Isabella: Kavan, I guess.

Dad: He's 21, so that's a little early to be having hair replacement. Not judging, but, you know.

Isabella: I don't disagree.

Dad: Maybe we're speculating, it may never have happened

Isabella: Complete right speculation, we have no idea. It just looks like the hair is it looks too luscious to me.

Dad: Okay. That's not what I would have said. You won't catch me saying his hair is luscious.

Isabella: Speaking of Kavan, I feel like we have a lot of really young people on this season of UK specifically. All the 21 year olds, just thinking about how they were born in 2005 freaks me out a little bit. Like, are they old enough to be here?

Dad: You'll get used to it. Mika is 21. Who is there anyone else?

Isabella: I can't remember who I know it was Aiden's little brother is for sure 21. And then maybe Robin? I don't have that, but I know that oh, you got your little cheat sheet over here.

Dad: Oh, you're not supposed to tell the audience.

Isabella: Oh, we can tell. Our audience will learn quickly that you struggle with names sometimes, so especially for Love Island with both going on. You need a little bit of help.

Dad: Well, and it came in handy because Robin is also 21.

Isabella: Okay. I thought Robin maybe. There are some on USA that are 21 too. I just think it's I mean, when I was 21, I had no idea what I was doing. So I guess that's what they're looking for though.

So I want to make one comment. I need to just talk about Jasmine. Jasmine is one of the prettiest girls I think they've ever had on the show. She seems so cool. I think she and Lorenzo are one of the most beautiful couples they've had on the show.

I mean, both of them, I think they are way better looking than anyone on USA, to be honest. I know it's not a competition, but wow. They're they're nice to look at for sure.

Dad: But they're short timers. They're not going to last.

Isabella: Oh, no. I don't think they're going to last as a couple. I think Jasmine is actually more suited for like a Samraj. Speaking of Samraj, I love him. I think he's smart, which we need a little bit more of on this show.

Not all the time, but it's it's just kind of refreshing to hear someone that just is well spoken and sounds normal and not dumb.

Dad: I'm getting the names straight. I kept calling him Ram Jam for some reason. But Sammy Raj is

Isabella: Sammy Raj. Yeah. They started calling him Sammy Raj. That's funny. I want to say one more thing about UK before we can we can move on, of course, depending on if you have more things to say.

Dad: Go for it.

Isabella: Every season of Love Island UK has at least one girl that has the most awful extensions you've ever seen in your life. And I'm not gonna call her out, but if you know, you know. And that's all I'm going to say. And I think these girls need some help. Someone needs to tell them.

Dad: And I wish you had not brought this up, and your mother said the same thing about someone in The USA episode the other night, and now I'm stuck looking at their hair to see if they have extensions or broken, I don't even know how you say it, broken hair.

Isabella: I don't even know what you're talking about, but yeah.

Dad: Yes. I can't unsee it either.

Isabella: It's so funny. Yeah. I'm not gonna put that girl on blast, but I think if you've seen it, you know who it is. The last thing I'll say is I would like to see more from Angelista. Angelista?

Dad: It's it's Lista. Okay.

Isabella: I would like to see more from her. I think she needs a bombshell. I don't think Opie is her guy. We haven't seen enough of her, and I'd like to see more.

Dad: Real quick on that. Could be both of these things could be production. What I mean by that is Angelista could be the funniest gal on the show, and they're just not showing it. And then going back to the extensions, what if they show up and the producers say, hey, you have to have super long hair for this show. I don't know what anyone was telling you before coming here, and they encouraged them to get it.

Trying to come up with a rationale that explains this.

Isabella: That's interesting because I'm trying to remember the last girl that didn't have long hair on Love Island, period. I'm sure there have been, but yeah, even just looking at our cheat sheet

Dad: Lola's hair is not that long,

Isabella: is No. And I think her hair looks natural.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: And I like Lola too. Mean, all these girls, we're gonna get into them more, of course, as the season goes on. I already like all the girls. I think Robin's hilarious. I think Lola's gonna be funny.

Yeah. I'm I'm looking forward to the season.

Dad: But which one is gonna be crazy? There has to be someone crazy or it won't be as good.

Isabella: I could see it being Ellie. I could see it being Ellie. I could see could see Jasmine getting a little bit crazy, but I could see it being warranted.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: And then, you know, it's hard, it's so hard to say.

Dad: I think Robin. It really is.

Isabella: Okay. I could see Robin.

Dad: Robin, I think it's one of those she doth protest too much. She's saying, I don't care, I'm easygoing, I'll see everyone, I wanna talk, chat to everyone. But I already anticipate she might get hung up on someone quickly and have her feelings hurt and spiral a little bit. I don't want that to happen, but if I had to pick one of the seven, that's who I'd pick.

Isabella: I could see that. I could see that. We're calling these girls crazy, and it's lovingly we're we don't want any kind of bullying of these girls, obviously. I think that should go without being said, but just want to make that clear. We are not trying to bully any of these girls.

This is all just fun.

Dad: Crazy is not the right term. It's

Isabella: It probably isn't, but

Dad: Charismatic. If thinking back when the best episode of reality TV ever, in my opinion, was Teresa going a little crazy and flipping the table. So saying crazy might be too broad of a term, so we'll work on an alternative. Charisma.

Isabella: I'm not sure if that's the right synonym. But we'll figure it out. But just wanted to make it clear that that's what we mean. We very much enjoy watching the crazy. Yes.

But I think it's going be a great season. I'm excited.

Dad: Me too. I love also that it comes out in the middle of the night, so if you could space out what we're watching during the day and not have to wait for everything to come on, you know, at night.

Isabella: Yeah. It is a lot. Watching two Love Islands in tandem is a lot. But it's we're having a great time, I think.

Dad: And now we know at least one night, USA is not on on Saturday.

Isabella: Correct. Well, no, USA, we're gonna have After Sun. They just don't have After Sun for this week.

Dad: And that's not a UK thing or

Isabella: It is a UK thing as well.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: I don't know for sure what the schedule of UK is yet, just because we are on the Hulu schedule, so we're a few days behind. So I anticipate maybe the off day will be Monday or Tuesday.

Dad: And the other thing is Unseen Bits.

Isabella: I like Unseen Bits.

Dad: I don't watch either of those, After Sun I or Unseen

Isabella: do watch both. So I will definitely be tuning into those. If there's anything worth pointing out, I got you guys.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: So, are we ready to jump into USA? Let's do it. Alright, my first thoughts on USA. It's a lot. It's a lot right now.

I love the show. I don't know why they needed to force everyone to make out immediately. I think it kind of takes away from I mean, now they've already all kissed. So any couples that are getting to that point, like we see in UK where they go to the terrace and kiss and it's a big thing. We don't really have that in USA.

So I don't love that. First thoughts on contestants? Anyone you like, anyone you dislike already?

Dad: I would probably say Kenzie, just because I think that she's

Isabella: You like her?

Dad: Like I said before, compared to The UK, I'm not a fan of any one of them in particular. I think that she might be one of the best participants for what's gonna happen later. Mhmm. She's from right around the corner. Sometimes I love hearing her accent come through.

And then she just has these facial expressions. Sometimes it's just like her mouth open and she's got these big wide eyes, but other times I swear she looks like she just smelled a fart. And she's got this disgust look on her face, and it's killing me. It's sad that that's what I'm focusing on. I'm sure you have something a little more She's

Isabella: very expressive. That is one of my main points about her. She's very expressive. A lot of people are like, Is she on drugs? Because look at her eyes.

But of course, no, she's not on drugs. They're in Fiji on a TV show. What I do think is funny is I've seen online some people editing her side by side with Sydney Sweeney from Euphoria, and that is pretty spot on. They're both kinda similar personalities, but for the record, I like Kenzie. I think she's funny.

I think she's very bubbly. She's a little bit immature maybe, but that's what we need on this show. I mean, her getting so upset over Zach after one day is a little bit much, but I think that's what we're looking for on this show. Right. I mean, we wouldn't have a show if people didn't get upset that they were rejected.

So I like Kenzie a lot. I'm not sure who she's gonna end up with. She and Sean have this weird thing going on. I don't know what is going on, but you've seen them kiss all over the place just randomly.

Dad: Oh, he's the cop, right?

Isabella: Yes. Sean is the cop.

Dad: Here we go. Police officer.

Isabella: Yes. So I don't know. Maybe they have something there. Maybe they're just like, Oh, we're the single ones, so we might as well just hang out. I don't know.

But I I like Kenzie. I don't like Zach, and I don't have a reason for it. Okay. So I'm wondering your thoughts on Zach.

Dad: Which one is Zach again?

Isabella: Is Charlie's brother, which you probably don't even know Charlie either, even though you watched that season.

Dad: Yes. Okay. I'm ambivalent about all those guys. They're I don't know.

Isabella: Yeah. I I don't have a reason to not like him, but I don't like him. There's just something about him that bothers me. Maybe it's because I didn't love Charlie either. I don't love it when they bring in UK people for The US.

I think it's just not realistic So long

Dad: are you bothered when US people are on The UK side?

Isabella: No, that's different.

Dad: Why is that?

Isabella: Because I like it when they do that.

Dad: It's still unrealistic.

Isabella: It absolutely is, but I like it a little bit more. Because The UK people, when you have an American coming in, 're like, Woah, this person's crazy. We've seen it with Toni from last season who was big fan favorite. She won the show. So I think it not to say it doesn't work, Of course, it's worked before.

I just it's not my favorite move. I wish they could have found someone else from The USA. I do think where The USA has done better this season is with their bombshells, and that's kind of been consistent throughout the seasons. Think USA really gets the hottest bombshells they can find. I think UK, they need a little work on that, but

Dad: I don't know, I thought Yasmin was a pretty good addition.

Isabella: Yeah. George, though.

Dad: Yeah, I can't really comment.

Isabella: They, I don't think were comparable to Gabriel and Keita? Keita. Yes. Keita. Keita.

I love Keita. She's my number one girl right now. Loved what she said to Melanie when Melanie tried to kind of call her out in the challenge and Keita kinda got her back, and then she was like, Well, you came at me first. So I just I really like her attitude. I think she's funny.

I think she's gorgeous. But yeah, Gabriel, I think, is gorgeous too. He has zero substance though.

Dad: So far.

Isabella: So far, yeah. We'll give him a chance, but yeah, I'm not getting anything from Gabriel except for raunchy. I need a little bit more from him.

Dad: Well, you brought up the challenge, and that's one of the things I briefly touched on earlier. I can't stand The USA challenges. It's just such a waste of time, and why do they have to have slime? And I caught myself thinking, what's that stuff made out of? Did it remind you of Nickelodeon, the green slime?

Isabella: Honestly, no.

Dad: But Okay. But now it does.

Isabella: And

Dad: I thought about how I know that takes all day because remember when Paige was visiting and she complained like

Isabella: I like that you you remember this.

Dad: Day long that she was there. Mhmm. And so it's got to be a huge waste of resources for them to just they're trying to bring up some drama, but can't you just play a game in front of the fire pit? Like on The UK it's so much more efficient and they get all messy and the first thing your mom says is like, didn't they shower before they go and sit on the furniture? They're going to get slime all over it.

Isabella: Mhmm.

Dad: But it goes back to it's overproduced, and I was thinking about it. If there are any dads out there that are listening and you've never watched Love Island before, for Love Island USA, you could probably skip the first thirty minutes of episode one. It's just horrible.

Isabella: Yeah. It's it's a tough watch. It's a tough watch. I was we we don't usually watch these things together. I have my own apartment separately.

I do not live at home. So I definitely had a few moments of, Oh, my gosh. I'm so glad I'm not watching this with my parents. But, I mean, I see what they're trying to do. I get it.

I I know you think it's overproduced, and I don't disagree. I also think that they sometimes feel like they need to find things to do These for games often do cause drama.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I understand what they're doing. I think that it is a little much. Do they need the slime? Probably not. Do they need to be dancing all over everything?

Probably not. But

Dad: Well, and how about bringing in the bombshell and they force all of them to make out with him sight unseen?

Isabella: That part I kind of loved. That part I was like, You're being

Dad: a little bit hypocritical.

Isabella: A little bit, but I thought that for a bombshell though, it's I feel like that made sense to me. It was interesting, it was something they've never done before. I wasn't mad at that. I wasn't.

Dad: I don't know. Maybe I'm just getting too old, but I

Isabella: was Maybe. A fan of But I mean, I feel like I am old sometimes. I'm like, it's too much. But that didn't bother me as much. I want to talk about some of the couples.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: What are your thoughts on Bryce and Trinity? Separately and together, really.

Dad: Okay. I know who Trinity is. I gotta figure out which one is Bryce.

Isabella: Bryce is the only white guy, I think.

Dad: Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, he's from Hawaii.

Isabella: Model DJ, which seems to be a very popular combination. Like, oh yeah, I'm a model and I DJ.

Dad: He there's nothing there for me. She let me back up. She might be the smartest of the women on the show. She might be the smartest person on the show. She she said a couple things in contrast to a couple of the women who didn't know where New Hampshire was.

Isabella: Okay. That was a note I wanted to bring up.

Dad: Right. And then she said something, I can't remember what the discussion was, and she brought up the topic in a way, I'm like, okay, she knows what's going on. She not only knows her geography, but she was the first one to pick up on when Gabriel said I speak Portuguese, she said you're from Brazil, which is a Yeah. Pretty narrow

Isabella: You would think is something people should know, but the bar is pretty low.

Dad: It's less likely to be known than where a state in our own country is.

Isabella: Correct. Correct. Going back to the New Hampshire thing, our Georgia girls are giving us a bad name right now because it's both Kenzie and Anaya are both the ones who responded. And first off, I just wanna say, Keita having to go around and ask people, do you know where that is? That I think speaks a lot to the intelligence of our country right now, but that's a whole other thing.

So I think that when I heard her ask that question, was like, Are you insane? Who doesn't know where New Hampshire is, if we're American? And then to my surprise, I heard Kenzie and Anaya say, No, where is that?

Dad: I wouldn't expect everyone to be able to distinguish it from Vermont.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: But you should know it's up in the Far Northeast, right

Isabella: up there. It's New England. It's up there. Come on.

Dad: Hopefully they knew it was a state. They just didn't know I don't know. God, hope I'm not say that that's sad.

Isabella: We can hope, but, you know, these people were not cast for their brains, so it's okay. But it makes me cringe a little bit. Girls, especially my Georgia girls, I know our education is not the best, but come on now.

Dad: Come on. Back

Isabella: to Bryce. Something about Bryce, I really like him. I think he's funny. I can't even put my finger on what it is, but he's my favorite guy right now.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: And I think it more speaks to how the other guys are just not that great, maybe? Because it's not like Bryce has even done that much to be my favorite guy, but he is. I do think he and Trinity are more friends, but if something changed, I think I would support it. I think I would.

Dad: Well, something happened on the last episode.

Isabella: They were kind of iffy about it. They were like, Well, maybe we're not just friends.

Dad: It's growing on me.

Isabella: Yeah. So I could I do like a slow burn in these shows. That

Dad: so British for you to say that.

Isabella: They do say that a lot on UK.

Dad: That was not even a saying in this country before.

Isabella: I totally was.

Dad: Okay. Is that a generational thing?

Isabella: Maybe, but I've definitely heard that before UK. But I still I do think that it's rare to happen on these shows, but when it does, I'm usually rooting for those couples.

Dad: Because it might actually be real.

Isabella: Yeah. Because they're not forcing it. Right. And that's nice to see. So I wanna get into Melanie.

I wanna get into Melanie, and I wanna get into Beatriz, and I wanna get into Keita, and the whole, I guess it was Friday night's episode, that whole little ordeal, Melanie's crash out. What do you think? What are your thoughts?

Dad: Well, going back to what we said before about crazy, this is sort of what I was at least talking about. Crazy. Maybe overreaction is a better And way to describe without it, it would be boring, but it is a little early and somewhat inconsistent for her to get miffed, if not worse, about a pretty innocent discussion between her man who is sincere and Kaida. Kaida. Kaida.

Isabella: Or as she likes to call her, Katie, which I is not mean, come on. You know her name.

Dad: So that was so brief, and then as soon as a bombshell comes in, she is the first one to say, I want to go pull you for a chat, and not just pull for a chat, but to go up to the terrace. They went upstairs, if I remember correctly. And then the the fight, I thought, I'm glad that Beatriz brought it up. I thought she focused on the body positioning more so than the timing, and she would have had a better argument of saying, hey. It seems a little inconsistent how you treated Sincere versus what, you know, what just happened instead of saying like, oh, I was you were sitting in the wrong place.

And to her defense, she apologized. Now, oh, I didn't really do it on purpose and that should have been it. But I think that Beatrice was just really trying to get at something else Mhmm. And didn't position it the right way. So I don't know if you're gonna comment on how what she was saying what Melanie was saying as she walked away, but that that might even be the title of this episode.

Give me 10.

Isabella: Give me 10. Give me 10. Give me 10. About 10 reminded times. Me a little bit of name them.

Name them. Name them. Name them.

Dad: But nothing is more irritating than that because your mother does that to me. She'll just say that. And I'm like, no, stop. We're not on Beverly Hills. Stop saying that.

Isabella: Oh my gosh. No, great TV though. I do want to go back into the little details of that little conversation between Beatrice and Melanie. I also want to say, I guess it's Beatriz.

Dad: Beya I know I'm

Isabella: messing We're probably messing up her name, and we apologize for that. But

Dad: Beya, I think is the one.

Isabella: Beya, Beya, yeah. She I love her story. I don't know if I love her yet. I do like how she called Melanie out, but I do think that she went about it the wrong way in that Melanie heard what she said and did apologize. And then I didn't like when Beatriz said, I'm just telling you so you can correct it.

Dad: That that was

Isabella: little don't think that would have sat well with me.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I can see how Melanie kind of spiraled from there, but I do think I've seen a lot of discourse about this online, by the way. I think a lot of people are split, but I think most people are on the side of Melanie's being crazy. And she is, but I I understand where it came from. I don't want to defend her because I think she was wrong. Pulling that bombshell while he was literally in the middle of a sentence was bizarre.

And I did go back and I watched the clip again. She is really leaning into him. And you see Kenzie and Trinity even say to each other, like, Girl, move back. Like, we're trying I miss missed that while I was watching the episode too, but I've since seen that clip. So I know a lot of people think, like, Oh, Beatrice, she should've just minded her own business.

However, I do think she was trying to stand up for specifically Kenzie. You can say that maybe she's doing it so that Kenzie doesn't go after Gabriel anymore. You could say that. But I think we'll see. We're gonna we're gonna see with time who is really more genuine.

I do think Melanie I mean, she's a little bit hypocritical. We see that a lot in these shows. So we're gonna see how it plays out. I think that Sincere, I forget, he said something that made me think like, Okay, he and Melanie might belong together. And I can't remember what it was, but he, once he saw the new bombshell come in, he was being a little toxic too.

So they may actually work out. We'll see.

Dad: Well, now that you mentioned it, if I had to pick one apart from drama factor, I do think that Bea, is it Bea trees? Is that the pronunciation?

Isabella: I just feel crazy as a white person saying it. Oh my gosh.

Dad: I'm more likely to mess it up and sound like a flounder, so Bea might be easier. Yeah. But she says things that make her seem more like a normal person, almost like a guy's girl or someone that you could hang out with that would be, I don't know, less drama.

Isabella: Yeah. I do think that she and I don't say this in a negative way. She does have a little bit more masculine energy, and I don't think that's a negative because I feel like I have some masculine energy too. I think she does she seems like the kind of girl that the guys would love to hang out with. And of course she's an Olympian, she's been in sports her whole life.

Of course she has a disability, so she probably had to grow up with some thick skin. I think the verdict's still out on her. I don't love what I've seen so far, but I've also seen some redeeming qualities, so to be determined on her. I do think Kate is my number one. I think she's a queen.

Melanie is last on my list, but we can't get rid of her. So she's my least favorite right now, but if she got dumped, I would be upset.

Dad: I agree. I wanna see how this plays out.

Isabella: It'll be interesting for sure. I'm curious, so we have a dumping. Our next episode will be a dumping. Who do you think gets dumped?

Dad: I think it's gonna depend on the method that they do.

Isabella: Well, we know right now they have more boys than girls. So I think unless they shake it up, what usually happens is the girls are gonna pick and the last guy not picked is gonna get dumped. So I think if that is the case, I do unfortunately think that Shawn might get dumped. And I like Shawn, so I don't want that to happen, but I I unfortunately think it's probably gonna fall to him.

Dad: Unless Kenzie really likes him and

Isabella: And she might. We just really don't know. I mean, we've seen them together, but neither of them have really talked about it that much. I just don't know if they're a couple of convenience or because they actually have interest there. It's hard to say.

Dad: I guess I'm just not invested enough yet to really care at this point.

Isabella: I hear you. I hear you. It's only been a week. We got lots of time to go. I know UK is eight weeks long.

I think USA is more like six weeks.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Lots lots of time to come. I think at this point last year, we hadn't even gotten to the big hooda crash out yet, so lots to come. Anything you wanna get into next?

Dad: Summer House in the city combination?

Isabella: Yeah. Yep. We got much to discuss there too. As as you all know, or I assume you know if you're listening to this podcast, Summer House Reunion Part Two came out this past week. We are caught up.

It's a good one. It was really I was locked in to that screen. I wrote down a couple quotes that Sierra said that I thought were great. For background, Kyle is really defending Amanda a lot and it's really annoying me. Sierra's line, you roll in the mud, you get dirty.

Perfect.

Dad: Or when she said, that's not my wife, that's your wife.

Isabella: Yep. Yep. There was another one she said, and I forget really what the context was, but she said, referring to Amanda, She's unavailable, which is perfect for him. Which is so good, because she's technically married, which is perfect for West. West knows that it's not going to get too serious quick.

And I think we've seen a pattern in West that he hangs out with these girls, with all these different women, multiple at the same time, and then he just kind of drops them. We saw it with Sierra. We've not seen it, but we've heard about it from other girls, like, on the show, like Dara. Dara.

Dad: Wow. She had the best mic drop moment. Wow. And you know how I'm particular about people who speak with verbal tics. My verbal tic is starting a sentence with so, but the most common are so you know.

She laid down an incredible speech, just trashing him, very carefully enunciating with nothing extra, nothing missing, and it was just silence after she said it. And then Andy asked for some clarification, and she piled on again. It was classic.

Isabella: It was awesome. And West, I mean, what a loser. He can say something. He's so quiet, and I think he thinks it's gonna help him, and I don't think it is. I mean, for him to not defend himself at all after that, To not say He even agreed with some of the things she was saying.

He was like, No, I do do that. And I forget what it was, but it was like, You throw away these women like they're nothing. He was like, No, you're right. I think that was all he said the whole time. I was like, Dude, so then do something about it.

What?

Dad: Well, in

Isabella: contrast Sorry.

Dad: In contrast, she is defending herself in situations or in ways that she shouldn't. She should've just taken her lumps.

Isabella: You mean Amanda?

Dad: Sorry. Yes. Yes. And instead she was saying something silly, I can't remember if it was episode one or two of the reunion. You mean no one has ever had this happen before?

Like, I'm not allowed to follow through on someone I find myself liking and everyone else that were not in high school. Right? And I think that was Lindsay.

Isabella: And Sierra was like, yes. That's exactly what you do. When it's your friend's ex, yeah, you don't act on it.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Like, everyone knows that. Yeah. Amanda did not come in with the right attitude. West also did not come in with the right attitude. He needs to just say more things.

Not that I think it would go well for him, but I think he needs to speak. I do think it makes me think about Scandoval and that reunion and how Tom Sandoval and Raquel came in, like, basically on their hands and knees, like, crying about how sorry they were. We still hated them. Not hate we still, like, were very much not on their side, but it was at least nicer to see some remorse. I don't see any of that from West and Amanda.

No remorse. Even when Sierra is, like, very clearly getting emotional, and by the way, I love that she didn't cry, Hasn't cried yet in front of those two. Love that for her. Yeah. There's just she's coming at them, and they're just like straight faced.

I almost wonder if they're on something. Like, did they take a Xanax? Did they take some beta blockers? I know if it were me in that situation, I'd be taking my beta blockers, but it seems like they're a little too out of it. I don't know.

Dad: It's hard to say. Being on a show would be pretty intense to begin with, but being on a reunion and being clearly the most hated two people on the stage, it's gotta be a lot of pressure. And I want to go a little bit off tangent here and talk about one thing from In the City and one thing from a prior episode. I know they're different shows, but it's all on It's basically the

Isabella: same Yeah. At They this connect.

Dad: Did you notice in the most recent In the City when Amanda West and Sierra were together and having lunch at some picnic table outside, and West kept reaching across and eating pasta out of Amanda's plate. And I have known people for a lot longer than those two know each other, and I would never dream of reaching across the table and eating food off of a woman's plate without at least saying, do you mind if I try wouldn't even Can

Isabella: I have a bite?

Dad: Right. I I don't think I would even do that. It would be someone would say, do you wanna try it? But he did it several times reaching across. And what I'm getting at is maybe this is evidence that something was already going on then.

And then the second thing, and you and I talked about this before, and it came out a little bit in episode two of the reunion, going back to episode 12, the scene where West and Sierra it looks like they're at the marina before they go out on their And I noticed something or I thought I noticed something, and it's like at the the thirty four minute mark, forty minute mark, something like that, and Wes says, I see you more. And the music changed. It had gone it was some sort of light music, then quiet, and then as soon as he said that, there's this ominous cello. I obviously went back and watched it again.

Isabella: Yeah. Ominous cello.

Dad: And she kind of clocks her turns her head a little bit to a degree. And in the beginning of that episode, they had showed her on the bed with Amanda, and I can't remember who else, and saying something, and Amanda says, Oh, you are seen. I see you. And I was thinking, Wait a minute. Sierra is thinking, You guys are talking to each other behind my back.

You're using the same weird phrasing. And she finally said it on episode two of the reunion. I thought, okay, vindicated, even though I knew I was right from the beginning.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't think she was clocking that at the moment. I don't think Sierra was. I think looking back, she probably realized that. And I mean, unless I'm wrong, but I really do think Sierra trusted both of them.

I mean, I know West, it took a minute for them to get back, but once they were back, I mean, we saw Sierra was like when they had that when Lindsay had her freedom dinner. Right. Sierra was talking about how she was so happy to have her favorite person in her life back. I thought that was little much. Like, to call him your favorite person,

Dad: I think is She needs to get out more.

Isabella: Maybe. I just my gosh. I feel for Sierra so much because she is she wants to I think she's been done wrong a lot, but she has such a big heart that she's very trusting. And when stuff like this happens to her, it's it's hard to watch because you know that that's like her that big heart of hers is probably diminishing just a little bit. And she maybe doesn't accept as many people in because of this.

And it's just it's I can't imagine doing that to a friend of mine, really, even if we're just acquaintances. I can't I can't imagine doing that. And I just wanna point out, on the In the City episode, Amanda's in her confessional. She says, quote, Sierra has been my best friend for years. You're gonna do that to your best friend.

It's so baffling to me. I know we've been here for weeks now, but I'm still not over it. I think it's insane. It's insane.

Dad: Definitely not good behavior.

Isabella: No. No. Yeah. So, I don't know. I wanna go back to the reunion.

Sure. And I wanna say something a little more light. Like, not not so much West Amanda. Carl and Lindsay, I

Dad: They might get back together.

Isabella: I want them to. Like, I want them to. And maybe it's the wrong choice. I know when they were together, they were not good for each other. But I think Carl's grown a lot.

Carl has a lot more confidence now. I think Lindsay's in a better place. She has her kid now. Think maybe she's looking for what she's looking for is a little bit different. I see it.

I see it. And I want it to happen. I think I'm gonna get a lot of people disagreeing with me on this, but I want it. I see it. I want it.

Dad: It might be a little unrealistic, but I see where you're going with that.

Isabella: It probably is, but I think it'd be great. Mostly just for TV purposes.

Dad: Any thoughts about In the City?

Isabella: I have a few thoughts. I want to say one more thing about Summer House that has come out since the episode, and I don't know if you've heard of this. Supposedly, Dara and KJ have broken up.

Dad: Oh, your mom did say that.

Isabella: And this was, I believe, after part one of the reunion. And I don't think we have much more information beyond that besides they unfollowed each other on Instagram. And I think maybe Dara said something on social media to kind of hint at that, but there's well, I guess I could go look right now. Let me do some research because supposedly they unfollowed each other. And, of course, when you unfollow each other and you're in a you're a public figure, that means you broke up.

They are still not following each other. I just would like to know what happened there because they really did seem like they were locked in. I mean, they were talking about she said that this is gonna be the most stable relationship in my life. She said something similar to that. So I was a little bit surprised.

I know they filmed their reunion weeks ago, but still, it's not that much time between then and now to break up. So I'm interested to see what happened.

Dad: Yeah. I don't care.

Isabella: Alright. Well I

Dad: mean, I wish the best for

Isabella: us, but I'm not focused on I hear you. Moving on. I have to say about the city. Kenny might be approaching one of my least favorite Bravo men quickly. I really like him.

The first warning sign was when he said that the girl that he just had moved across the country for him, that he didn't have a spark with her. What an insane thing to say.

Dad: Especially on TV.

Isabella: On TV, yeah. And he hasn't gotten much better since then. So I'm curious of your thoughts. I know you had a run-in with Lindsay. I was team Lindsay, of course.

But yeah, I think he scares me a little bit.

Dad: I don't have much to say about that. It's it's still too early that I'm

Isabella: not

Dad: overly fond of any of them. I think that his girlfriend is pretty and

Isabella: She is. I think she needs to get out of there.

Dad: The I did go to that bar, the Garrett, the the Speakeasy in New York when I was up there a couple weeks ago, and it was at night and it was packed. But it was kinda neat that you go into the Five Guys and there's a bouncer at the stairs and you walk up the stairs. It was nice, but that's the most I have out of in the city.

Isabella: We're still learning. We're only a few episodes in. So of course, we're gonna be focusing on Lindsay, Kyle, Sierra. Well, Sierra's not on there, but she was. Lindsay, Kyle, Amanda.

We're kind of focusing on that right now, but I, of course, had to point out how much it can't stand Kenny.

Dad: Is he the one that said I work out every day? Oh, no, no. That's the guy, the milkman.

Isabella: Yes. The milkman that Lindsay was dating. Speaking of Lindsay, real quick, this is not important, but I love it when and this is a broader kind of comment too. I love it when the editors are shady. Like, Lindsay pointed out when she was meeting up with Danielle, which I'm glad they're meeting up by the way.

I think they need to be friends again. I mean, they were so close. Anyways, she said in her confessional that she always says yes. Like Danielle, I guess, said, I'm surprised you said yes. And Lindsay responded, I always say yes.

Then the editors flashed back to what? Last episode where Danielle comes up to her in the bar and says, Can we get a coffee sometime? And Lindsay says, No. I don't know what exactly she said, but she definitely declined the offer. I love it when the editors find that and do a little flashback just to say, hey, no, that's not what you said, but okay.

Dad: Interesting. It reminds me, I love how on Southern Hospitality, the producers will do it. I looked this up. It's called a snap zoom, where they show them in the confessional and then a split second later, it's their face really close-up. And they do that to Emmy all the time because of her eyes or because she's saying something completely inconsistent with what she said before.

But, yes, it's I wish they would do it more often, including on the reunions where they're saying, I never said that. And sometimes they'll show the footage and sometimes they don't.

Isabella: It's kind of like if you ever watch The Office, which everyone has seen The Office, how when one character will kind of look at the camera, it's a little bit like that but in editing instead. Like you're trying to tell the audience something. Should we move on to Southern Hospitality since we're Sure. Kind of already I don't have much on this, but I do have a couple notes. What is up with Lake and Mikels saying they chase each other around with knives?

Did you catch that?

Dad: I did. I thought that that was a little bit odd.

Isabella: Like, very bizarre.

Dad: Then to say, like, everyone does that. Like, I did that within my family.

Isabella: Yeah. They're trying to say it like we're brother and sister. I'm pretty sure my brother and I never chased each other around. Now, we fought. We'd get pretty physical, but we were not using knives.

No. No. It's insane.

Dad: And that they're defending each other, and earlier in the season, they were fighting like cats and dogs.

Isabella: The other thing I thought was interesting, and maybe I just don't know enough about Maddie, They congratulated her on twelve years of sobriety. I think it's awesome. And she's a DJ. Like, she's in that world, so good for her. I do think she got a little bit defensive about her ex boyfriend, and that's kind of questionable to me.

Dad: It doesn't look good. If I were Joe, I would be squirming. And speaking of Joe, does he not ask anyone for help on trying to put a business plan together? It seems like it's almost too off that sometimes you have to wonder if these things are a show line, and I'm not saying that that's the case here, but wow. He had no idea what he was doing and no he clearly didn't ask for help.

He's, like, all over the place. He thinks if he has good ideas that people are gonna put their money up and say like, sure, I'll start a business with you. And maybe that was gonna happen earlier, but I don't know that if I was Leva that I would have even given him a shot to begin with because all he had was ideas. He doesn't have any capital.

Isabella: And it's not like having a rooftop with live music is a generational idea like it's been done before.

Dad: Right. Especially in Charleston. It used to be that there were only one or two rooftops in Charleston. Now there are quite a few.

Isabella: I've been to quite a Right. Yeah. I don't know. He I mean, I wanna say he's young, but he's not young. He's older than me.

He's 30.

Dad: Yeah. They made a big deal

Isabella: about turning So yeah, he does I don't know. I think he's just very unserious, and I think he's like that a little bit with Maddie too. I hate to say it, but I don't think they're I don't think they're gonna end up together. I don't. I don't think Maddie likes him as much as he likes her, but we'll see.

So that's all I have on Southern Hospitality.

Dad: I love the show. It's have to

Isabella: say a great that show. Yeah, great show.

Dad: And in closing on this, that this is something that's been on my mind. I have an inverse relationship between how much ostentation is shown and how much glam is and how much I like the show. And what I mean by that is Real Housewives, especially currently, there's a lot of wealth displayed. You know, I have a Bentley. I have this big house.

I have a glam team that travels with me. And at the moment, most of the Housewives franchises I'm not a big fan of. In contrast, Southern Charms, Southern Hospitality, Below Deck, I'm sure it's Summer House. Summer House. There's none of that.

Right? Sure, there's some money okay. They're in the Hamptons, but they don't own that house. Right? And they're not pretending to own the house.

And it's it's just it might just be coincidence or correlation or causation, but it's I still like the shows that seem a little more authentic. And again, we're watching reality TV. We're not assuming that everything is always We

Isabella: understand that a lot of these things are not scripted, but they're not fully real either, so we understand

Dad: that Right.

Isabella: Okay. I do want to just briefly mention Atlanta and Rhode Island. I think both are really good seasons right now. No, you disagree?

Dad: You can see my face. I'll talk about it very briefly. Atlanta, this week, I felt like it was homework. It for this podcast, just thought, I don't I'd rather read and watch it at the same time, which sometimes I do. And there are a couple things.

One, it goes back to the glam thing. They're really going out of their way to show how much stuff they have. And that's not always true, but they really have. And it's the the vulgarity, and that sounds like an old super old band. No.

I I The the level of vulgarity on the show, it's it's off putting. And I don't know if it's because they feel like they have to say something that's really racy and controversial to get on camera or to get their confessional in, but I'm not a fan, so those are my very brief comments on that. On Rhode Island, I don't know what you want to cover, but two things. One, there is another podcast called Bravo Docket. Cesie and Angela, they're lawyers, they go

Isabella: to Shout out.

Dad: Yes. Shout out to Cesie and Angela at Bravo Docket. When we talk about receipts, they go through legal pleadings and filings, and a couple episodes ago, they covered Rhode Island, and they go into some detail about some legal troubles, civil and criminal, for some of the people on the show. And it's worth a listen. And then the second thing is on one of the most recent episodes, they talked about some divorces, including an update on Drew and what's her husband?

Ralph. Ralph's divorce.

Isabella: Basement man.

Dad: And I thought of that one because we're talking about both these shows, but that was an example of they go through what the pleadings are in that case for what Drew makes, and it's far less than you would ever imagine. And what Ralph claims to have made in whatever job he does is far more than I would have ever thought. So interesting. That is the only podcast that I listen to that is related to reality TV, and I've listened to it pretty religiously. What are you gonna say about Atlanta and Rhode Island?

Isabella: I just wanna add, I listen to a lot of reality TV podcasts, so I am a little bit more tapped into the social media of it all. But I like that you don't because it it makes it more genuine from you. Like, these are your real feelings. You're not just stealing your thoughts from somebody else, I guess. Atlanta, I understand what you're saying.

I do hear you. I think what is keeping me entertained is these feuds that are going on and the Read's. The Read's have been great this season. You know what that means, right? Yes.

Okay. For those that might not know, a Read is when you're it's pretty much a really good, well put insult.

Dad: Yes. Yes. So How does it differ from shade?

Isabella: I think shade is a little bit less in your face. Now, I'm not the expert on these. I think you would probably need to ask, like, can you more hair care? But, yeah, I think that no show does it like Atlanta when it comes to that. I mean, there were a couple, like Kelly, saying about Porsha, like, She's big as hell.

She beat my ass. Like, just stuff it's just good. I mean, Porsha Williams is really one of my favorite housewives ever. I think that she's usually wrong in these arguments, but I don't even care. I think she's hilarious.

I love her. What I also liked is, I don't know if you noticed, Angela and Pinky.

Dad: Oh, the fight at dinner. That was epic.

Isabella: Yes. Was earlier in the season. That was an epic fight, but what you may not have noticed in this last episode is they're hanging out together. They're friends now. After that big blowout argument, they're friends now and they're cool.

And that is one of my favorite things that happens in Housewives is what you can have the most insane argument where you said the nastiest stuff about each other, then a couple weeks later, they're hanging out. They're good. It was one of my favorite things about RHONY, Real Housewives of New York, was that they'd the same thing. They'd go crazy on each other and then just make up like nothing happened.

Dad: Well, and that's why I wonder on the Housewives franchises, maybe not production, but the cast members get together and they hatch up a plan because they feel like they have to. Because they they're unless there's drama, they're not gonna be on screen. Right? It's they're not being filmed constantly like in Summer House or another show. And you can tell when they're working together to get something.

And it it just it's frustrating, annoying. It it I guess maybe because it makes me question some of the whole reality TV, which obviously we're pretty invested in. But it's it's just I'm not a fan of what they the the things that they do to each other, and you can tell they're they're

Isabella: scheming. I do think, for Atlanta specifically, they've had an issue with that the past few seasons. I think that's why they've mixed up the cast so much because it just doesn't feel super real. And I'm not saying they fixed that completely. I just for me, I am a little bit more invested in this season than previous seasons.

And then this is kind of unrelated, but just any time NeNe Leaks pops up on my screen, it just brings me joy. And the fact that they can use her clips now because she's not in a lawsuit with Bravo anymore, like they've made up. I just love that I think they brought it up when they were talking about Cynthia's friendship contract. They brought in the clip of NeNe Leakes, and then they were talking about Porsche's classic line, 265 a year. And they brought in NeNe Leakes again.

And I just I know it's so minor, it's so little, but I just love to see that. I really do. I think it opens the door to bring her back someday.

Dad: Fingers crossed.

Isabella: Yeah, fingers crossed. Rhode Island, I don't have much to say. I think that Alicia and Liz and Jo Ellen fight was ridiculous with that poor man trying to just sing his song. And Liz lost me here. I like Liz.

I or I liked Liz. I saw a side to her this episode that freaked me out a little bit, to be honest. She definitely did pull Jo Ellen's hair, and she kicked her. She did. She's trying to say that, no, I never did that.

Why would you say it didn't? No, she did it. It's all on camera, baby. And then last thing I have to say about Rhode Island, we have a dog sighting. Did you see Dolores' dog named Dog?

No. It's my favorite Bravo animal, I've decided. Dolores' dog named Dog. Love

Dad: I'm missing that.

Isabella: Yeah, I guess you're missing it. That always made me that always gave me a giggle, and I thought it was funny when they see when we saw Dog.

Dad: I'm just fascinated with the accents because I guess I have not spent enough time around people from Rhode Island to know that they have an accent to me that's so similar to parts of Jersey, which makes sense. They're right around the corner. But it's interesting.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, I think that's all we have. Well, on my end, was there anything else you wanted to discuss before we play a little quick game?

Dad: The only random thought is I've been watching a lot of the shows and they show people eating with their mouth open and it's really annoying. Pinky did And was doing it. And can't the producers just cut that out? I don't want to see it. It's a term I can't remember.

You're just kidding. Misophonia, which I think is the sound, which of course you know drives me crazy. And then Misokinesia. You see someone eating with their mouth open, this is I know it's a me problem.

Isabella: There's airing my grievances now.

Dad: I have

Isabella: a list

Dad: of things I keep and I want to bring up every

Isabella: once

Dad: No, in

Isabella: I like that. I'm sure you'll have some people that agree with you. I disagree with you I at just don't notice it as much as you do. So this game we're gonna play, it's quick, it's simple, it's not crazy. Something that I've noticed about dad over the years as we have watched a lot of TV, he's terrible with names.

We've had one already this episode that you missed, which is why we have a cheat sheet here. I'm gonna show him an image and see if he can guess. And we got three people. I have an easy, medium, and a hard. We're gonna see if you figure out who it is.

Now, this first one, I'm starting a little easy. I think you're gonna get this one. But I've also been surprised before by who you don't know. So, here's your first girl. You need to see it closer?

Kenya.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: You get bonus points for last names.

Dad: Kenya Moore.

Isabella: Kenya Moore Hair Care. I gave it to you earlier. Yeah. Okay. Good one.

That's easy. That's level easy. Now, level medium. This image provides a hint.

Dad: Orange County? Mm-mm. Wrong.

Isabella: Maybe I could send you these pictures.

Dad: I think that that predates my time.

Isabella: No, doesn't. It sure doesn't. No. You know this woman. Not Orange County.

I will give you a hint, but not yet. Let's see if you can tell.

Dad: Oh, that's the one with the leg.

Isabella: Well, yes.

Dad: The jersey no, RHONY. Mhmm. There's no way I'll remember her name. That is the scene where she threw a leg on the table.

Isabella: Yes, you have that correct. Was curious if you'd figure out her name. That's Aviva Drescher.

Dad: Yeah, not in a million years would I remember that.

Isabella: Okay, maybe that was harder than I thought then. Okay, that last one then I really don't think you're gonna get, but we're gonna see. We're gonna see. You might surprise me. No.

No? No. Do you have a guess of a franchise?

Dad: Southern Charm?

Isabella: No. She was on actually, she's been on Beverly Hills and she's been on OC. That is Teddi Mellencamp.

Dad: Okay. I didn't watch either of those shows at that time.

Isabella: I haven't watched OC either, but we've watched Beverly Hills. You just maybe didn't see the early seasons, I guess.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I guess, yeah, that was a tough one. The one, Teddy Mellencamp, she's the one who has brain cancer right

Dad: now.

Isabella: So all good energy for Teddy. We're wishing the best for her. But that is It's around. I think we've reached the end of our first real big episode. So hope it was enjoyable.

And anything else to say, Dad? No. Alright. Well, we will look forward to talking to you guys next time.

Dad: Thanks.

Isabella: That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

Isabella: If you like the show, leave us a rating or a comment. It helps more than you think. Follow us wherever you're listening and on social media at Check Me Boomer.

Dad: And tell a friend who'd get it.

Isabella: See you next week.

Introduction

In this bonus episode, we include a bit about our backgrounds, how we came up with the show name, and how Isabella used to sneak and watch Jersey Shore when she was little. We also spill the tea on how Dad isn't really a boomer, how Isabella got Dad addicted to reality TV, some of the shows we plan to cover, and our top-three franchise shows.

Isabella: Hi. I'm Isabella. My dad is obsessed with reality television, maybe even more so than I am.

Dad: She's not wrong.

Isabella: This is Check Me Boomer, a father daughter weekly dish on the latest in reality TV. Hi, dad.

Dad: Good morning.

Isabella: It's 2PM, but okay. Afternoon. Should we give our audience some background on who we are, maybe where we come from, and a little bit of our story and what we're gonna cover? Perfect. Alright, Dad. Do you wanna share your age and and that you're secretly not a boomer? Or—

Dad: Yes. I am mid fifties, and I think that puts me at Gen X, but I'm often referred to as a boomer by you and your brother.

Isabella: Yeah. We'll make jokes here and there, but just for the record, he's not technically a boomer.

Dad: So how did we come up with boomer in the title then?

Isabella: Good question, dad. If anyone had noticed that Check Me Boo is a Sheree Whitfield reference.

Dad: An homage, if you will.

Isabella: An homage. Yes. So who gonna check me boo is one of our favorite quotes. So we took some inspiration from there. I'll share that I am 28 years old. So I am on the cusp of Gen Z millennial. So we got a little bit of an age difference here. Of course, it's my dad. So do you wanna start with dad kind of how you started watching reality TV, kind of how we started watching it together even when I was little?

Dad: Sure. I'll give you the Reader's Digest version. That's a boomer reference if there ever was one. Reality TV probably started with real world, and I can't remember my age at that time, but I wasn't a kid. It started in your mother and I watched it pretty religiously, then moved on to Jersey Shore, and then we were probably watching Orange County in real life as you kids say these days on a weekly basis.

Isabella: And—

Dad: then Atlanta and some others that we can probably come back to, but then there was a big resurgence that I think you wanna cover during COVID where we caught up with some of the better, more iconic franchises, especially RHONJ. And maybe we should explain how we sometimes refer to them by saying it that way.

Isabella: Yeah. We'll get there. I wanna say first that I started watching reality TV with Survivor and American Idol, Biggest Loser, America's Next Top Model, some of those shows that now we can call pretty controversial. But I would always come into the living room to watch shows with my parents, and those were the shows we'd watch. You mentioned Jersey Shore. What's funny is as a child, I also watched Jersey Shore. You just didn't know about it. So once I got the Interesting. So once I once I got the TV in my bedroom, when I turned, what, maybe 12, I would put on Jersey Shore in my room, but I'd leave my door open so I could see you coming down the hallway. And as I saw you coming down the hallway, I'd put my finger on the previous button and go back to Disney Channel. So you had no idea I was watching Jersey Shore.

Dad: Classic.

Isabella: So, yeah, then after that, we COVID kind of thrust us more into the Bravo sphere where, yes, we started with RHONJ, which translates to the Real Housewives of New Jersey. We followed that with RHONY, the Real Housewives of New York. My mother and I watched a lot of summer house and southern charm when you were traveling a bit. So you have since come into those as well.

Dad: Yes. With a vengeance.

Isabella: Yes. Now we have since added some shows. Like, I introduced my father to Love Island.

Dad: I'm addicted. It's quite a franchise. It's a lot of work and a lot of episodes each week.

Isabella: Sure is, but it's worth it. So we will, of course, be covering that when the new season drops on June 2. Speaking of that, some of the other shows that we do plan on covering are Anything Bravo, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Selling Sunset, The Bachelor franchise, Perfect Match, Temptation Island. I will cover maybe a little bit of Survivor and Big Brother. Dad, maybe I know you love your American Idol. Maybe you can mention a word or two on that when it comes back around. Any anything that you can think of that I missed, dad?

Dad: No. I'll just cover a couple of those. Survivor was something that we watched from the beginning, but it just kind of got old to me. There's not enough drama, especially towards the end. All the people that are dramatic and controversial seem to be weeded out, and that three person episode where they just re reel in the memories of everyone who's lost is just it's a little bit too much for me. And I guess I just kind of think it's jumped the shark, and so I kinda pass on survivor. American Idol is is one that no one else seems to watch in the family, but to me, it's the most uplifting. Not like the old school. I don't know about that, but it's it's certainly gets close. And then it's it's it's the opposite of how it used to be when it was a lot of abuse of people and saying how horrible they are, and Simon was iconic in that. And now it's much more, you're great. You're great. But still they bring people out of the woodwork who would never otherwise make a splash. And so I I like the opportunity for those people to succeed.

Isabella: No more pants on the ground?

Dad: No. No. I haven't seen that in a while.

Isabella: Okay. Well, so we will pretty much be covering anything reality TV. Anything we don't cover, feel free to leave a comment, and we will definitely look into it. I had a couple questions for you, dad.

Dad: Sure. Shoot.

Isabella: So I wanna ask you how you feel about the men that might judge you for watching reality TV or say, like, oh, that's only for that's only for women and gay men. What do you what do you say to those people?

Dad: I don't really care what they think. I think they're missing out. And it's sort of like there was a time period where people said if you drink White Claw, you have an issue. And I have a friend who was in the Navy Seals, and he drinks White Claw and says, I don't really care. I kinda think of this obviously, I'm not a Navy Seal. I never did anything of the sort. But if he can drink White Claws without guilt or concern, I can certainly watch Bravo TV and other reality TV shows. Plus, it gives us something to talk about not just you, but your mother and I with you. And as we'll come to in the season, I'm sure there are a lot of things that happen in reality TV that could be this might be a stretch, life lessons. Like, quick example, how the people on Love Island UK deal with controversy and conflict, it just baffles me. We've talked about this before. How can they it's something in The United States version. They would be throwing hands. So if if we could just take a lesson from the folks on that show, the world might be a better place.

Isabella: Yeah. I like that. I like that. My second question is for both of us, and I didn't give you time to think about this, but I want you to, off the top of your head, give me your top three reality TV shows of all time. This is including Bravo, including everything else.

Dad: By franchise or episodes?

Isabella: By franchise.

Dad: I'd probably say RHONJ, especially because the episode with the table flip. "You prostitution whore!" Mhmm. That's up there. And the whole franchise, at least until it kind of petered off and changed and got too much of a conflict between Teresa and Melissa, then I would say I might go with RHOSLC, which is Real Housewives of Salt Lake City that's almost a lisp sounding when we say it. But that and the Mormon Housewives, which I I can never keep the name straight. What is it again?

Isabella: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Right.

Dad: Right. MomTok? Yes. There's something in the water in Salt Lake City and Provo because two franchises to come out and have such incredible drama in so few seasons. It's it's crazy. That's three. So you asked for three. That's those are my top three, I would say. Yeah. At least off the top of my head.

Isabella: So I thought about this a little bit more, but I didn't I didn't think about it too in-depth. I have four. Okay. But I'm gonna, again, I'm gonna give one an honorable mention. So I'm gonna go Love Island as number one, actually.

Dad: Wow.

Isabella: And and this is it's I'm mostly referring to the earlier UK seasons. If you know, you know, when they were smoking cigarettes, chain smoking all day long. I I love it. It's the best.

Dad: Did they have only one drink per day, Max?

Isabella: I don't think they had that limit back then.

Dad: I might have to go back and watch those earlier seasons then.

Isabella: Second, I'm actually going to put RHONY.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Because that group of women, there's just they they struck gold with that. They really did. And I'm so glad that they're going back to it, they're filming a new show called The Golden Life. I will be very excited to cover that. Third, I'm going to I'm I'm a little biased because I will say we do live in Atlanta. We're from the Atlanta Metro Area. I'm gonna go with Real Housewives of Atlanta for number three.

Dad: Which we do not refer to as RHOA for some reason.

Isabella: It doesn't it doesn't sound the same.

Dad: No. It doesn't roll off the top.

Isabella: But Nene Leakes, Porsha Williams, Kenya Moore, I mean, Kim Zolciak even, those are my girls. I don't know if we reached a level of drama that we reached in Atlanta in any other franchise. My honorable mention is going to be Vanderpump rules—

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: which is one really one of the best ones. I couldn't leave it out.

Dad: Quick question on a couple of those. On Vanderpump and RHONY, are you referring to the original OG cast or the revamps?

Isabella: I'm not referring to the revamps. Not even a little bit. I think both revamps are terrible if I'm being completely honest. I I still watch both of them, but you can't even compare the two.

Dad: Maybe it's more generous to say they're in the early phases of development.

Isabella: And and that's why I'm watching them because I'll give them a chance, and I know that shows can grow. So I'm giving them a chance. But, yeah, it's it's not looking good so far. You you can't you can't match the Jax Taylor, Stassi Schroeder effect. You you just can't find that again.

Dad: Well, I don't take issue with any of the four, but you did have a chance to think about it.

Isabella: I did. So when we come back, if you if you wanna change your top three, we can revisit this.

Dad: I'll think about it.

Isabella: I'm sure we'll revisit this a few times. So That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

Isabella: If you like the show, leave us a rating or a comment. It helps more than you think. Follow us wherever you're listening and on social media at Check Me Boomer. And tell a friend who'd get it. See you next week.