"Shall we have one more kiss?": Love Island UK says goodbye, plus The Valley and Next Gen NYC

Isabella and Dad close out the villa for the season, still not exactly agreeing on Julia.

Plus: a stacked Bravo week with The Valley finale, the In the City reunion, Atlanta, Below Deck Med, and Next Gen NYC, a Big Brother update, and another episode of "Name that Bravolebrity" game.

Love Island UK takes its final bow this week. The old islanders return for a brutal judgment day vote, Mica and Samraj get dumped and take Tommy and Yas down with them, and the season narrows to three couples ahead of a mercifully short (for Dad) one-hour finale. Dad and Isabella dig back into their season-long split over Julia, with Isabella walking her stance back just a little and offering some grace, and they trade picks for the season's main characters, landing on Ellie and Aiden. The best moment of the night: Aiden and Priya, freshly dumped, saying the nicest things about each other at the farewell dinner before he caps it off with, shall we have one more kiss.

Then the Bravo pile-up. Real Housewives of Atlanta serves a Halloween party, a savage text from Porsha to Shamea, and a wave of nostalgia for the NeNe Leakes era. Below Deck Med sends Luke packing, gives Chef Joy a heartfelt backstory, and rides out a storm short-handed while Nathan teeters on quitting. The In the City reunion turns vicious, with Kenny telling Lindsay she collects apologies like souls and the Danielle feud refusing to die, and The Valley finale ends with Danny hammered and Janet launching a drink at him, "tiny fool!" included. Next Gen NYC closes it out as Charlie half-apologizes to Amira, Ariana keeps winning Isabella over, and Shai's upcycled clothing line gets left on read.

This week also debuts a new episode of "Name that Bravolebrity" photo game, with Isabella quizzing Dad on faces from Real Housewives of New Jersey and beyond, plus a quick Big Brother check-in on a houseguest driving the whole house crazy. And the documentary thread continues, as Dad reports back on A Toxic Love Story and floats a Netflix film about Kalshi and Polymarket. With Love Island now wrapped, Dad and Isabella signal a shift toward deeper Bravo coverage and more comparison to older seasons, and they're still asking listeners to send documentary recommendations.

Isabella: Hi. I'm Isabella. My dad is obsessed with reality television, maybe even more so than I am.

Dad: She's not wrong.

Isabella: This is Check Me Boomer, a father daughter weekly dish on the latest reality TV. Alright, dad. Welcome back.

Dad: Good morning.

Isabella: Good morning. Today is Saturday, August 1. Correct?

Dad: Yes. And by the time this is released, it will be August 3, and this is Episode nine of Check Me, Boomer.

Isabella: Yeah. And we're happy to be here and happy to have you all listening. We're we're going to wrap up Love Island UK this week. That finale ended or that finale came out a few days ago. And we will cover our regulars, our Atlanta, Below Deck, NextGen NYC, In The City, The Valley, and then I have a little bit of a Big Brother update.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Anything else on your end?

Dad: No. I might make reference to that documentary that we brought up last week because I did watch it. Okay.

Isabella: Alright. And then we're going to try and get a game in this week.

Dad: Great.

Isabella: Moving forward, I just want to say we obviously have been very Love Island heavy. I think I've mentioned this before, but now that this is the last week of Love Island that we're going to discuss, we will be more heavily covering the Bravo shows. And maybe we'll have a little bit more discourse about these shows and how they compare to the older seasons and stuff like that instead of just a quick recap and thoughts. Feedback, as always, we're happy to hear. So if you guys would like to hear it one way, then please let us know.

And on that note, should we what do you wanna start with?

Dad: The Violet UK.

Isabella: Alright, let's get it all out there. So we started this week post the podcast thing Yes. Where I honestly don't even remember who was dumped from that, but it doesn't matter. We started with Tommy and Yaz talking about Tommy's ex and how he broke up with her two weeks before coming on the show, which is a little bit crazy because does that mean he was signing up for the show and doing all these interviews for the show while he's with his ex girlfriend?

Dad: It does seem a little sus.

Isabella: It's a little sus. And I do feel bad for Yasmin. She starts crying, so she doesn't want to look dumb. But I still like them. I mean, I think he's genuine.

Dad: Was one of the very few things I wrote down in my notes when she was crying at some point, or when she was talking about this issue, she said something along the lines of, I'm normally one who gets under one to get over another. I don't think she knows what that means. She just doesn't strike me as that kind of person, but I I just I thought, do you really know what you're saying? Yeah. Again, nothing wrong with it if she does, but I thought it was a little out of character.

Isabella: Yeah. We also had a little bit more of the Julia and Priya fallout, and Jasmine, I guess. Mean, Julia's just been an issue with all the girls. I am going to say right now

Dad: That I was right.

Isabella: I'm not You gonna were say you were right because I still she's still my least favorite girl. I just think I was a little bit too harsh on her. I don't think she means badly. I think she has a problem with her delivery and tone. And it could very well be like a language kind of thing.

I'm not sure. I know she's from Poland. I'm not sure how long she's been in The UK. We don't even know if English was her first language. It probably wasn't.

Definitely So I'm trying to give her a little bit of grace because I really don't think she's meaning to be as harsh as she is. I still am not sure if I'd be friends with her, but yeah, I'll give her a little bit more grace than I did in the last episode. I will say Simba's defending her a lot, and it's kind of irritating me because Simba does not have all the information. The thing I have noticed about Julia is I feel like she's a little bit meaner around the girls, but when Lorenzo's around, she's she's not acting like that. I don't know if anybody I don't know if you've noticed that or if it's just me, but I feel like she's a lot nicer when all the boys are around.

Which Mika even pointed out. She's like, Simba, you don't know what she's saying to us in the dressing room. You haven't you're not there.

Dad: That's fair.

Isabella: But I do appreciate that Simba's standing up for her. I mean, he doesn't have to do that at all. He's not involved at all. So it's nice. I guess he sees that she maybe doesn't have many people, so he wants to stand up for her.

Aiden and Priya. These two are still I mean, they're still going back and forth. We know Aiden has said he doesn't have deep feelings for her, but he's kind of like, oh, but but but they could come. Like, they could develop. I've just never really dated a friend before.

Like, I've never done friends to lovers. So who knows? Maybe it could happen. And Priya is just I mean, I think I wrote down multiple times in my notes, Priya, stand up. Just walk away.

Go home. What are we doing here still?

Dad: Well, did.

Isabella: Yeah. We'll get into that in a minute, but they definitely had a weird conversation where Priya said she went into it thinking she was going to end it with him, and then Aiden's kind of talking her out of it, but not even on purpose, I don't think. So she's telling him, Oh, you know, I came into this conversation expecting to end it with you, and I just don't want to. The conversation ends by Aiden saying, Okay, well I think that I'm going to end it then. Which like Priya, I'd be so angry if I were her and he had said that after all that.

But it's on her.

Dad: Well, also in fairness, he did say that and I had the same reaction of, wait a minute, why he was saying something along the lines of, I'll make it easy on you and I'll make the decision. Yeah. But then when they split apart literally and then he went and talked to the boys, he said Priya just ended it with me. So it's not like he tried to say, I broke up Which with

Isabella: I actually like. Yeah. He, I do think my God, I've been on him a lot this season. I do see a little bit of growth, a little bit. Okay?

I'm sure as soon as he gets out, it'll go to the wayside, but we'll see. And we will I have more to say about them too later.

Dad: Well, and the growth might be because, to your point, it was at the end, there's nothing else for him to do. There are no women who are unattached. He was kind of constrained.

Isabella: He was

Dad: in a cage at that point.

Isabella: That's not even what I'm talking about. I'm more talking about the way that he's handling it around the boys. Like, I could have totally seen him going in there and saying, Priya still wants me, but I had to cut that off. And he didn't say it like that. So I can appreciate that he at least has respect for her.

The bar is so low, but So to your point, they had this little dinner of the not the finalists, but we're at the end here. It's the episode before the finale. They have this dinner where they all dress up with nice dresses, all the men are in suits. Julia looked incredible. She looked like a super villain, like

Dad: In a good way.

Isabella: Complimentary. Yes. Aiden and Priya were making me laugh at that dinner. They were saying the nicest things about each other and that they really hope to remain good friends. Aiden made me laugh though because they're looking at each other saying all these nice things and he ends it with, well, shall we have one more kiss?

Dad: That was a good line.

Isabella: Yeah. And then of course they were dumped, which I think we all expected. We found out from that dinner that also Lorenz0 and Julia are exclusively dating. Lorenzo just kind of announced that and was like, Julia, I think you'll like this. He didn't ask her.

Was just like, yeah, we are exclusive.

Dad: Maybe that's what helped them in the end.

Isabella: Yeah. So spoiler alert, Lorenzo and Julia won. So that's context that I will discuss more moving forward.

Dad: I just like to jump ahead sometimes.

Isabella: I know. Well, I mean, I think if you're listening to this episode, you probably know that Julia and Lorenzo won. And if you don't, then

Dad: Now you do.

Isabella: Yeah. Now you do. Well, at this point, they won like a week ago in UK, so if you haven't seen spoilers, then wow. Good for you. But that ends that.

The next day, the old islanders return to vote out someone to dump.

Dad: Judgment Day is what I think they called it.

Isabella: I wrote down what Simba called it, which Simba's just cracking me up lately. He said, Oh, this is like retribution day.

Dad: He came out pretty much unscathed, I thought.

Isabella: Well, Angie and Simba did not get a single vote from the Old Islanders, which I really think says a lot about them.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Again, know I've given Simba a lot of crap on this show, but I have also mentioned that he's grown on me a lot. And I really do like Angie and Simba, and I see them working, and I'm I'm rooting for them. So there were a couple things that came out of this past Islanders discussion, discussion, which I'm really glad they did. I I think we've mentioned before they've only done it on All Stars. I'm glad they're bringing it into the original version too.

Dad: I'd like to think that they were listening to the podcast and they took the recommendation. Again, by the way, still Ireland, The Republic Of Ireland, still number two country staying strong.

Isabella: Shout out the Irish. We love you guys. We love Ireland too. We've been there. Love Dublin.

Anyways

Dad: Beamish. Found it, finally, after many years of looking. The beer that I searched for for those many days when we were there. Anyway, moving on.

Isabella: Sorry. Yeah. Moving forward. We love the Irish. Yeah.

Okay. Jumping forward, Mika and Samraj were the ones dumped by the islanders, but we did find out a couple things that I wrote down. I thought the interaction with Lola and Julia was going to be interesting. I thought it was going to be icy. Lola was a lot sweeter than I thought.

However, she and Shawn did still vote for Julia and Lorenzo to go home. Julia did jump in and say no hard feelings, so I guess they're cool.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Great.

Dad: I wasn't a fan of how Mika and Samraj seemed so defensive for every vote they got. I'm like, come on, just be quiet. Just move on.

Isabella: That was my next note.

Dad: It was really more him, but both of them a little bit.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I wrote down Samraj . Samraj is especially very defensive. Mika was too.

I I mean, I get it. Like, they clearly they they aren't understanding why other people aren't seeing what they're seeing. I get it. Whatever. Tommy of now we do have two Tommys at this point.

Tommy who is with Yaz, who is still in the game. He's getting a lot of heat from all these islanders. And I guess it's fair. I mean, they they it's fair to ask these questions, but I just have this feeling that he is genuine. So

Dad: I'm expecting a lot more will come out about that now.

Isabella: I'm surprised we haven't seen the ex come out and speak. Right. And maybe she has. I know I'm not as tuned into social media for UK, so maybe she has said something, but I will be interested to see if she does. We had Mika apologizing to Charlene for her comment or laughing at her in the dressing room or whatever.

Charlene and Alicia thanked Julia for defending her, which was nice. I'm also wondering as this is going on, how long are they standing here? Because I noticed at one point Jasmine took her heels off, because they've had to be standing there for hours.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So that sucks. Just to I know they had to they probably cut a lot out. But as I mentioned, Mika and Samraj end up getting dumped. I wrote down a good quote from Martha regarding Mika and Samraj that I think probably sums up how the Islanders feel about them. She said, You guys preach a lot on how to behave, but don't behave yourself.

Dad: I thought that was pretty pointed.

Isabella: Yeah. And I think she's more referring to earlier in the season, which is totally fair, but I think they've been fine for the last month, really, if not longer. So they all said no hard feelings. I'm not sure if I believe that with how how defensive they were, but they are dumped. They are told that they have to dump someone else to make it the final three couples.

So they decide to dump oh gosh.

Dad: Yaz and Tommy.

Isabella: Yes. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. I lost my spot.

I

Dad: remember. That's not even in my notes.

Isabella: Yep. Mika and Samraj dumped Tommy and Yaz. That kind of sucked. What was crazy though is, and with the context that you know that Julia and Lorenzo won, Mika and Samraj were very close to dumping them. So I do wonder if they would have dumped them, who would have won?

I don't know.

Dad: We'll never know.

Isabella: We will never know, correct. Okay, so now we're going into the finale. I don't have many notes on the finale. As you know, Lorenzo and Julia won. I'm not sure how I feel about them winning.

They were the only couple left that was not in love with each other, But clearly, the public loves them. I think it's mostly Lorenzo. Of course, Julia has her fans, but I think her fan base is a little bit more split as evidence between you and I.

Dad: Well, and you know my view on the finales. The best part about this one was it was only one hour long.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I completely agree. And also what I like about The UK finales is they they do bring in all the old islanders, and, like, Maya asked them questions. Like, what's going on with all you islanders?

So we did get a little bit of tea.

Dad: Right. And that gets back to the logistics. It's a lot easier to fly people into where they're recording at Mallorca.

Isabella: Than Fiji.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: I wrote down a couple of the little things that I thought were interesting. Aiden and Priya are apparently cracking on again. He said they had a kiss after After Sun. So, I mean, I don't even know what these two anymore. Apparently Ethan and Alicia are exploring, which is funny because they were two bombshells that came in at the same time.

So you're kind of it's an unspoken rule that you're not allowed to explore each other when you're both bombshells, but now they are. And then Tommy and Charlene kissed, not Yaz's Tommy. Other

Dad: Tommy two tones.

Isabella: I forgot they called him that. Yeah. Yeah, they kissed too. And then our results are first place, Julia and Lorenzo, second place, Jasmine and Kavan, third place, Angie and Simba. And the last thing I have to say before I wanna ask you some questions is, Jasmine, when Julia and Lorenzo won, Jasmine goes and hugs Lorenzo and does not hug Julia.

I don't know if you noticed that at all or if anybody else noticed that, but I clocked that. I saw that happening.

Dad: No. That's at the point when I just clocked out completely.

Isabella: Yeah. Did.

Dad: I'm done.

Isabella: Well, at this point, I'm crying too because, you know, I So, yeah, that's basically my recap. So now that we're done, I would like to know two things.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: I want to know your MVPmain character, however you interpret it, boy and girl of the season. And then I want to know who you think is going to make it out of the final five or so couples.

Dad: Okay, gosh. My favorite lady, of course, is still going to be

Isabella: Oh gosh. Are you going to forget her name now? Ellie. Okay.

Dad: And then guys, ah boy, I'm not sure because really I guess Lorenzo? Yeah, let's go with Lorenzo. And then who's going to make it? I don't don't know if any of them will make it. It's just I think it's a pressure cooker.

We've obviously seen in from prior seasons that no one really lasts. Eventually, they all break up, so Not I guess

Isabella: all of them, but

Dad: I guess I'm gonna go with Julia and Lorenzo, just being optimistic because the fact that they didn't say they're in love gives me some confidence that maybe they're treating it a little more seriously. I know that they say, oh, a day in the villa is like a month in real life. Okay. Well, you're still not in there forever. And it's it's a little bit that cuts both ways.

So anyone that says that they love each other, especially towards the end, right after going closed off, right after going boyfriend girlfriend, it just seems forced to me. So the fact that they didn't say they love each other is part of the reason I would go with them. But overall, I wouldn't put money on any of it. I wonder if those are on Polymarket. If

Isabella: you Oh, could god. Uh-uh. Okay. I'm sure it is. Everything's on Polymarket, but yeah, I'm not in that.

Okay. The reason I asked about the MVP main character is because they discuss it on After Son, I just want to read out some of the answers. Some of them are weird, but some of them track.

Dad: Answers from whom? Who who

Isabella: From the panel on After Son, which includes Maya, and it also includes Toni and Yasmin and Shakira from last season. And I think it's also Tyrique from oh, and Casey from another season. I'm sure you have no idea who these people are.

Dad: No, I remember Tyrique. I remember Casey He's been on like three different versions of been

Isabella: on like four seasons. So yeah, they're all saying, and I don't remember who said what, but the people that were mentioned, not Lorenzo. And I think maybe they didn't mention him because he's like the obvious choice at this point. I think everybody loves him. Kavan, weird.

Simba, okay. Ellie, duh. Aiden, honestly, yeah. Mara, and Priya. Those were all mentioned.

I very much agree with Ellie, and I agree with Aiden too. As much as I got on Aiden, he kind of was the main character of the season.

Dad: Was the panel also asked who would last or was it just for MBD?

Isabella: They were not. They were I mean, they they have their own opinions. They weren't asked could they talk about who they think is gonna last. I think I feel the opposite to you, but I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong because I do agree that there are two ways to look at it. Yes, you can be in love in the villa, but you can also not say that yet because you want to meet each other's families and see how it works on the outside.

And I do sometimes think that that's the more genuine way to go about it. However, I don't think Lorenzo's ready for a relationship. I love the guy. I don't see him being ready. And I've just noticed that the whole season.

Dad: Being ready for his first relationship.

Isabella: Exactly. I just don't think he's there. I think he really likes Julia. I'm just not sure if it's gonna work out between the two. I I kind of see Simba and Angie lasting the longest at this point.

I mean, he really does seem to be obsessed with her now.

Dad: Well, time will tell. I'm

Isabella: sure. Time will tell. Yeah.

Dad: You can give us updates periodically as you find out things.

Isabella: Yeah. Of course, with these shows, no one's gonna break up right away. They're milk it for as long as they can. But eventually, it's all gonna come out. Okay.

That's all I have for Love Island UK. We will, as I mentioned, keep any updates going if we hear

Dad: Okay. What do you want to do next?

Isabella: How about Atlanta?

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: Can you just go in chronological order?

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: Okay. So I just want to read out something that I took a photo of from Atlanta. Shamea had this Halloween party and invited Porsha. And if you remember Porsha and Shamea had a big blowout fight arguing about their mothers. So Porsha sends this text to Shamea after Shamea asks if she's coming to her party.

Porsha says, Girl, I'm not coming to your damn party. You are sick as F. Please move along. Enjoy.

Dad: Very pithy.

Isabella: This is why I love Porsha. I mean, was it nice? No. But it's messy.

Dad: That's the understatement for the entire show.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. Not a good episode, again. Yeah. I do wanna make a reference to an old Halloween party on The Real Housewives of Atlanta.

This time Cynthia showed up dressed as Glue, which I thought was funny. She's the Glue to the group, whatever. But this reminded me of an older Halloween party from Atlanta where Cynthia showed up dressed as fifty Cent. She called fifty Cent. They still call her that to this day.

But really, the best one was Nene Leakes and Greg, r I p Greg, showing up as a cockroach and an exterminator because I'm pretty sure someone had called her, like, a cockroach or something. So just iconic moment from the show, and I miss it. I miss NeNe.

Dad: Back when it was good.

Isabella: Back when it was good. Yeah. So I guess the big part of the episode is George and his wife are at this party who this is a guy who one of a few guys, actually, who Angela has said that Shamea is sleeping with. Of course, he and his wife come out and say it's not true. Like, duh.

We knew that already. So I don't know. I think the season's almost over. I think I'm ready for it to be over. Atlanta, as you've said before, has the best reunions.

So I'm

Dad: excited We'll see how many have parts it is.

Isabella: Yeah. We will see. I think it's going be probably three. But we'll see.

Dad: Okay. What's next?

Isabella: Below Deck. Sure. Do you want to start or do you want me to

Dad: I didn't really take many notes.

Isabella: You'll just comment on what I have to say.

Dad: Let's see. Yeah. So

Isabella: Luke is leaving the boat, as we mentioned last week. Sandy said she's, quote, grateful that he's leaving. Chef, I love Chef, Chef Joy.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: I think she's really funny, she's really cool. She had this whole we got a little bit more background on her that she lost her mom and she didn't even speak about her mother for twelve years because she was so torn up about it, which I like when we get a little bit more personal information from these people. It just makes them more likable, I think. So, yeah, I really like Joy. She seems like a really great chef too.

She got this charter that they currently have there, they seem to be a little picky. At least

Dad: the one lady is.

Isabella: Suzanne. She, in the end, got a lot of praise from Suzanne. Regarding Suzanne, I was laughing because there's one night where she's so wasted, clearly. She's slurring her words. And one of her guys in the this is still we're still on the matchmaker yacht for context.

One of her guys is saying, Oh, you're pretty drunk. You should probably go to bed. She gets pissed, and the next morning she's talking all about, Oh my God, I wasn't even drunk. And he's all telling me I'm drunk lady.

Dad: Yeah. I I remember her saying that. That was funny.

Isabella: Yeah. So another thing I thought was interesting and unexpected for me, Cooper, who had the allergic reaction last week, he has been love bombing this girl for weeks, and I thought it was genuine. Now he's saying to other people that he's not sure what he wants after the boat, which is totally fair if you would have maybe not love bombed her. I mean, I I know that's up to interpretation a little bit, but I think he he really made her feel special, and to now say that he's not sure what he wants with her is I'm not a fan.

Dad: We'll see how it goes. They connected at that bar or restaurant, and he did say something to make her feel better. So we'll see how it goes. Maybe he just had a brief moment where he was questioning himself.

Isabella: Yeah. Now this storm that came through was crazy, especially with the bosun of the ship not even being there and being down a deckhand too. So Cooper and God, what's the other guy's name?

Dad: Joe.

Isabella: Yes. Cooper and Joe had to there you go. You're getting better. You are getting better,

Dad: Joe Joe Bradley.

Isabella: Yeah. Cooper and Joe had to take care of his storm by themselves because Nathan the Boomer is back with his baby mama and son, daughter, baby, whatever. Nathan then doesn't even show up until two hours before Charter, which is crazy, because the deck team has a lot to do before Charter. Sandy's pissed. They're all kind of pissed.

So that's kind of where the episode ends.

Dad: Right. A bit of a cliffhanger where he goes in to tell Sandy, I think he's quitting. I think that his wife has got too much going on, it's overwhelming her, and that he's gonna say, I can't do this. They're gonna be two decades down. That's my prediction.

Isabella: Okay. Maybe. I don't know if I see that because I think that at this point he's trying to make money for his family too. That's the reason he's there.

Dad: Of course.

Isabella: But I could see it happen. I could see it. I could also see Sandy begging him to stay one more charter. Right. Because they can't, that's a big, big boat.

They need four deckhands, not two. So we'll see how that goes, as usual. Anything else on that? Nope. In the City, part two reunion.

It's the end of the season. This is the last episode. There were a few crazy quotes that I wrote down that I thought were pretty impactful, I guess.

Dad: I'll see them.

Isabella: Two from Eoin, who is Danielle's

Dad: Significant other?

Isabella: Yeah. Don't even know what he is. Are they they engaged? I don't even know. But, yeah.

He told Lindsay, You collect apologies like souls. And I think this was mentioned last episode, but it Kenny really

Dad: said that.

Isabella: Wait.

Dad: Yes. Kenny said that.

Isabella: You're right. Again. I'm off today and you're on, You need to should we switch? Like, do you need to be carrying today or what? No.

Yeah, you're right. That was Kenny who said that, and that was quite the line, I thought. I mean, I think he's got a point. As usual, I love Lindsay, but I think he's got a point. Danielle said to Lindsay, and when it comes to for context, when it comes to Danielle and Lindsay, I've kind of always been team Lindsay.

I think Danielle has always gotten on my nerves. I think she's a bit clingy and too much sometimes. I really didn't like how she treated Lindsay and Carl's engagement from a few seasons ago, but this line spoke to me. She said, It feels like you're not done punishing me. Which is interesting because it's not like Danielle's done anything horrible to Lindsay recently.

Lindsay's keeping this list of grievances that she's still bringing up, and most of these things happened years ago. So I'm kind of with Danielle on that one. Like, I get it.

Dad: Especially because she said it right after Britney had that heartfelt apology, and no one on the left side of the stage was giving her any credit. They just kept harping on it, Britney? Bringing it the girlfriend of Kenny. Britney. Oh.

Isabella: Oh. Okay. You were on a roll.

Dad: Yeah.

Isabella: You lost it.

Dad: I misspoke.

Isabella: Was like, Britney. Okay. Yeah. And then Eoin did say this line. He said, Lindsay, I think the common denominator in these toxic situations is you.

That I do think was a little bit of a stretch, but what I'm going to say is Lindsay is dragging this, all of it. She's dragging out the thing with Danielle, she's dragging out the thing with Whitney. I get it, she's on a show that she's trying to make entertaining, and it's kind of not entertaining. So I get what she's trying to do. She knows how this works.

Dad: I also like what Eoin said when Andy asked, Hey, you didn't talk about your divorce and your history of your prior marriage with these guys, and he said, Right. I don't know them. Yeah. It was like the most real thing that people say in these shows. They kind of always make it look like everyone has known each other for a long time, but clearly that's not the case here.

And I thought it was just really blunt, and it made a lot of sense. Of course, just because you're put together on a show doesn't mean he wants to necessarily go into the gory details about his wedding, which is now subject to a pending divorce. And I thought, great, great line.

Isabella: Yeah. I think Andy specifically asked him, were you vague on purpose? And he answered, yes, I was.

Dad: Right. It was great.

Isabella: Yeah. I like that too. I like it when they break the fourth wall a little bit and indicate that, no, we weren't really friends before the show. Oh, I thought Amanda was a lot more normal on this than she was on the Summerhouse reunion. I guess maybe things have settled down a little bit.

She can more, like, understand how she's feeling, I guess.

Dad: Well, and I guess if you take her words at face value, when she she said something along the lines, when she's attacked, she disassociates, and so there was a less of an attack in this episode, so maybe that allowed her to to talk more.

Isabella: Yeah. I think if Sierra was there, it would've it would've been a lot different because Sierra is really the victim in this situation.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Yeah, yeah, I know Kyle is too, but my God, I am not going to let Kyle off easy, as many people are. Kyle was a terrible husband. I'm not saying she was a great wife. He was definitely always cheating on her. He didn't listen to anything she said.

Like, she asked multiple times, can you please just, like, come home a little bit earlier? Or, like there there were multiple things that he just could not do, he didn't even listen to.

Dad: Well, and there was a line from someone on the left side of the stage who said, you were set up to be a hero here, and you're just digging in and making it worse. And he's consistently only listening to parts of what people say or conflating things, so he kept saying, you know how important music is to me, and how can you you can still be a DJ without getting hammered and making out with people on the floor and going home with someone and some stranger, bringing strangers home with you. They're not the same.

Isabella: Exactly. And I'm not sure why he doesn't seem to understand this. I'm sure there are plenty of DJs out there. I'm sure there are sober DJs. Like, being a DJ

Dad: Like Maddie from Southern Hospitality?

Isabella: Exactly. Yes. Like Maddie Reese from Southern Hospitality. Nice one. Who is actually going to Clemson soon, weirdly enough, but

Dad: For a gig? Yeah. Interesting. Okay.

Isabella: At least I saw that somewhere. It might be fake. You can like the music without also staying out all night, like you just said, and bringing home random people to their apartment who they don't know at all. The craziest thing he said though was when he talked about how and I cannot even believe he admitted this on camera. He really tried to get Amanda to read a book called How to Date Entrepreneurs.

Dad: And not only did he give her that book, but on this episode, he doubled down and made it seem like, yeah, that made sense. Was making an effort. I was reaching out. Right? He didn't say that, but he the look on his face was, of course, that made sense.

Isabella: We that's probably mostly why it was funny because he didn't even realize how, like, dumb he sounds. If he would have said, like, yeah, looking back, like, that was silly, he was like, no. That was me trying.

Dad: Maybe he could have given her how to date a DJ who drinks too much.

Isabella: Yeah. How to date a man child with an alcohol problem. I don't know. I mean, I don't like to speculate on alcoholism or anything. I'm not saying he's an alcoholic.

I do think he has a problem with knowing his limits. I mean, we've seen him on both of these shows. Every time he drinks, he gets so wasted that we can't understand what he's saying.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: And that's I'm sorry. That's not normal. And even if it is, it shouldn't be. So, yeah, I'm not gonna go any further on that, but I don't think he needs rehab or anything, but I think he maybe needs a little bit of therapy to figure out what mean, he's how old now?

Dad: 40.

Isabella: He's in his forties. Yep. So, yeah. But that's how the show ended.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Do we think they're gonna get another season?

Dad: Good question. I'm gonna say yes. I don't know what the viewership is or how big the audience has been, but I think so.

Isabella: Yeah. We'll see. I think it maybe depends on how this filming of this current season of Summerhouse goes.

Dad: It's probably also very easy logistically in comparison to Summerhouse because everything's in New York. Not that New York is cheap, but at least they're not schlepping photo or, you know, camera crews back and forth four or five hours each time to the Hamptons.

Isabella: You know, I bet they have separate camera crews.

Dad: Maybe.

Isabella: I mean, I have no idea how this works, but I would think that maybe they have a crew based in the Hamptons and a crew based in New York.

Dad: I don't know. Where would they put them up in the Hamptons? It's pretty expensive. I don't know. Alright.

Isabella: Yeah. So moving on. Yes. Okay. The Valley, this was the season finale.

Dad: Danny was maybe the most hammered I've seen him. And they they really the camera crew did a good job of focusing on him and how much he was eating, getting food all over his face, and him playing the characters and then flashing back to prior episodes and where he comes up with an accent. Boy, I'm stick this just confirms my view. That guy would just annoy the f out of me. I could not be around him for any time.

And neither can the people on the show, they're just constantly except for Jesse. I don't know why

Isabella: he And Kristen.

Dad: Right. But he was stumbling towards the end, right? And he couldn't stand up straight when he was standing at the bar.

Isabella: He had to go lay down. Yeah. Even the other people at the party were like, oh, yeah, I think he had to go pass out on the couch. Like, they all he has I'm sorry. He has no redeeming qualities.

Like, I I can't even think of one. I guess his wife loves him. I don't really see how, but what I don't know. Maybe he's a good dad. I hope so.

Dad: Could be. Yeah.

Isabella: So we see a lot of two face stuff going on. I think Zack and Kristen especially, they're like, acting one way towards Janet and then going to their other friends and, like, saying differently. Their other friends, I mean, Zack, Kristen, Danny, Nia, pretty much. And then Janet is more on the side of La la and Brittany, where La la is very much defending Janet. Brittany is even starting to defend Janet.

Yeah. They're arguing over, like, what Kristen actually said. I don't know. I think at the end of the day, it was more tone than anything. Kristen's tone when she's talking about Zack and who who else were they throwing under the bus?

Was it Lacy? Yeah, Lacy. Zack and Lacy. When they're talking about them and how they feel about Janet versus how they speak about her behind the scenes, it's it's a lot. I'm not really sure who's even right, but I'm definitely on Janet's side.

Right. You're also on Janet's side?

Dad: Well, at least in that context, in that argument, I still don't know about her overall as a person, but the show evolves on a week to week basis. Think the most exciting part of the show was when they gave a preview of the reunion. Three parts, which I'm shocked for this show that it will be a three part reunion.

Isabella: Yeah. I mean, there's content there. It's just maybe not our favorite to watch. Yeah, so as you mentioned, Danny's wasted. He goes to lay on this couch where Jason, Janet's husband, who tore his ACL, guess, is still recovering, so he has to put his leg up on the couch.

So he and Danny start talking for the first time in a while. And Danny's oh, then Lala comes in too and joins the conversation. Then Janet comes in too. So Danny is telling La la that he never said the husband stuff about her. One of the other either Jason or Janet jumps in and says, No, you definitely did say that.

I was there. Like, you said that.

Dad: And then he apologized

Isabella: for Yeah. I think he did finally say, Okay, yeah. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that.

Dad: And I'm not jumping in to give him any kind of benefit of the doubt or It's just that he acknowledged then that he had said it, so he must know he's wrong.

Isabella: Yeah. So Danny and Jason kind of get into it. Jason's of course defending his wife. I mean, I don't even know what they're arguing about at this point. They're just really going back and forth.

Jason starts to get a little bit more angry, and Danny goes, what are you going to do with your bum leg? And Janet loses it. She throws her drink at Danny and calls him a tiny fool, which is one of my favorite quotes of the episode. Everyone is so mad at Janet now. Now Janet's the bad guy, which, yeah, I get it.

I think he deserved it.

Dad: Yeah, they acted like she had stabbed him or something.

Isabella: I know.

Dad: So, oh my gosh, I can't believe and she didn't really get him very well. It looked like she missed.

Isabella: Right. I didn't even I thought she missed too. I didn't even know there was anything in the cup.

Dad: Oh my gosh. I smell like alcohol now.

Isabella: You smelled like alcohol Yeah. You were breathing it. I mean, my God. Well, what's the hypocrisy here, though? Kristen is acting all high and mighty, and yeah, Kristen has grown up a lot.

But, Kristen, there are multiple instances of you throwing drinks, punching people in the face. You've punched people in the face before, and now you're gonna be all high and mighty about Janet throwing a drink at Danny, who deserved it. Right. Yeah. I don't know why everyone's even Lala's like, oh, Janet lost me when she did that.

Like, okay, I get it. I get it. But I don't know.

Dad: It's It's getting to be so much I'm starting to lose track of who's fighting with who on the periphery of some of these bigger fights.

Isabella: Yeah. Agree. That's why I'm saying, like, I don't even know what they're fighting about anymore. Like, they're fighting, but I don't even know what what it's about anymore. The last thing I had to say is the season kind of ends with Danny in his confessional being like, you know, I'm a really good guy.

And I just have to say

Dad: I'm a stand up guy with integrity or something along those lines.

Isabella: If you have to say that, you're not a good guy. It should be obvious. Maybe you disagree with me, but

Dad: No, I think that's a good point, and he might be 100% right when he's sober.

Isabella: Yeah. And maybe behind the scenes when he's not on camera. Who knows? Maybe he is playing it up a little bit for the camera. We have no idea.

But if you feel like you need to defend yourself and say you're a good guy, you're probably not. I've never heard you say, I'm a good guy. I'm a really good guy. Because it's obvious.

Dad: Well, it's weird to say something positive about yourself to begin with.

Isabella: Yeah. It's it's very it's bizarre. It's just bizarre. So I'm excited for the reunion, I guess. I'm not sure how I feel about the show overall, but I'm excited for the reunion.

Dad: Me too. But I am with with a lot of shows. That's usually the redeeming part of the season.

Isabella: It is. Yeah. Okay. Moving on.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Next Gen NYC. Also not the greatest episode. No. We've got Shai Shay. I think it's Shai.

Dad: It's definitely Shai.

Isabella: He's meddling with Hudson and telling Hudson all about what Ariana's doing. Meanwhile, he's saying Ariana's cute behind the scenes, so make up your mind. Ava and her boyfriend broke up. Fast forward to today, she's seen with Kyle Cooke all the time. Kyle Cook from In The City and Summer House, who we just talked about, is the DJ and maybe has a drinking problem.

Dad: Wait, I thought he was with Salley, or is it both? Both. Oh, okay.

Isabella: I think he's more seen with Salley, but he has been seen multiple times with Ava too. Anna it's

Dad: inconvenient, she's in New York.

Isabella: She is. I don't like that age gap, but whatever.

Dad: She could do a lot better.

Isabella: She also I guess my rule is that if you're over 25 years old, you can make your own decision, so whatever. I just I think it's kinda creepy on Kyle's part. Ava's also still living with that boyfriend, which sucks. Maybe not present day, I hope she's moved out since, but on the show she was. Okay.

I wrote down that Charlie's trying to be nice and apologize to Amira and meeting up, and I like that. He's treating it correctly. He's doing the right thing there. I think he did say that. Like, I think he said that about her boyfriend.

Dad: Right. It's so specific for what's her face. Who knocked on

Isabella: him? Georgia.

Dad: Dreight. For Georgia to have come up with that out of thin air seems unlikely. And he must see that too. That's why he finally says, I I may have said something like that.

Isabella: Yeah. So I was gonna say I had that note before because Charlie's initially saying, I can't believe Georgia would say that. I didn't say anything. I would never say anything like that, and Georgia's just trying to throw me under the bus. But yeah, fast forward to when they are talking and Amira says exactly what she heard from Georgia, Charlie even says, You know, that sounds like something I might have

Dad: said. And At the I same time he's blaming Georgia for the whole thing. Know, she's clearly just trying to get you against me and to be a bad person? Maybe, but you still said it, so can you just leave that part out of your apology?

Isabella: Yeah. I mean, to be fair, I think he handled it pretty well.

Dad: At least in this episode. There is a bit of preview at the end of the episode where they show a lot of stuff to come up on the season, and it's pretty clear it doesn't end well between Charlie and Amira.

Isabella: Okay. Well, yeah. I think it's going be really bad between Charlie and Georgia too. Charlie as is one of those guys that's extremely, extremely entertaining, but he's probably not a great person. I hesitate to say that because we don't know him.

The way see But what we see on the show is he's yeah, he's very entertaining, but probably not a good guy, a la Jax Taylor, a la Tom Sandoval. Don't know.

Dad: Boomer, that's a yeah. Those are some pretty that's a bad cast of characters to put him in with. And to your point, he maybe he's playing the heel kind of like in pro wrestling. Right? He's decided, I want to be the one that causes controversy, and maybe he's not as bad as what he's portraying himself.

Who knows?

Isabella: That's why I hesitate to say it, just because we haven't seen anything actually harmful. Yes, the thing he said to Amira was not cool, but she seems to have at least begun to forgive him. He hasn't done anything to actually harm anyone, which is why I do hesitate to put him in that group. But my point is that he's one of those guys that might not be a great guy, but I'm gonna enjoy watching him regardless. Right.

So, yeah, they can't get rid of him. They really can't. Oh, my gosh. We had a Teresa and Joe Giudice siding today. And we have Gia crying over how her dad is living in The Bahamas, was deported.

I mean, girl, like, I feel bad for you, but he didn't pay his taxes. What do you I mean

Dad: Well, that's what they said on the show, but that's not what happened. It was way more than not filing tax returns. They committed mortgage fraud, if I'm remembering Yeah.

Isabella: I'm I'm summarizing, but yeah. She's writing Donald Trump letters. I wrote down my notes. Girl, he is not reading your letters.

Dad: Who knows? I know

Isabella: he's done some crazy stuff and pardoned some people, but I don't think he's I don't know. He has a reality TV guy, so who knows? Maybe that's what G is thinking. But clearly it's not.

Dad: Hasn't worked yet.

Isabella: Yeah. Ariana Liam had this little party, I guess, at his parents' house, or like a dinner party or whatever. Ariana is nervous to go. She's like, Oh, I have a bunch of tattoos, what if they don't like it? The quote that I liked was, What if they don't like filler?

I'm full of it. Which I just like because so many women are not open about that kind of stuff, and Ariana clearly is very open about it and is kind of using it as a joke in passing, and I just think it's very real of her. She is my favorite on the show. Ariana is the most normal and I think the coolest on the show. It's so crazy who her mother is.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Her mother is insane. Don't know

Dad: In a what good way.

Isabella: Yes. But also in a bad way. I mean, she's gambled away all her money. She's stolen

Dad: Allegedly.

Isabella: I mean.

Dad: Well, who knows, but Ariana has not been she has not withheld too much, and she's been pretty forthright about what her mom has done.

Isabella: Yeah. I mean, she had to give her mom money, which that her mom was something there that was discussed last season. Like, it was sketchy. Like, I don't think I think her mom more so took her money. Like, I don't think it was an agreed upon thing, which is a problem.

Riley. Riley, we got her a little bit this episode. She's been not on the show much at all. She's talking about how she loves to be home in Atlanta, of course. I mean, and then that was it.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: They Like, just you didn't showed get any of Riley.

Dad: No. No. A little bit of a confessional, but that was it.

Isabella: Yeah. So I don't know. I miss her. I need her to redeem herself, like, badly. Okay.

And then we have Shai, who's making this clothing brand, who I I mean, I'm just rolling my eyes at this the whole time. Like, they all is this this just a rite of passage to move to New York and, like, decide maybe you want to make a clothing brand?

Dad: I guess, but it it also seems very difficult to scale because he's going out and finding individual pieces and using them to craft into some one other he calls it upcycled materials as opposed to recycled materials. But I just don't know how he could ever make it into a real line if he's going to markets and pulling out old linens and converting each piece into a separate shirt? How are you going to make that scalable?

Isabella: Yeah. You'd have to find a manufacturer that's going to print that specific kind of fabric on.

Dad: Right. Right.

Isabella: Yeah, Fabric, whatever. Yeah, good luck to him, but what was so funny is he clearly is texting Ava and Brooks because they have a following and he wants them to do a photoshoot. They're not responding at all, which to an extent I think is a little bit rude, because if this is your friend and you guys are close, which may not be the case actually, I think I would do that for a friend.

Dad: Or at least tell that they're not going to do it and say, Hey, I'm sorry I can't do it. Ava seems really busy. She needs money to pay for her new apartment because her dad hasn't paid her back the money borrowed. So she could at least say, I get it, Shai, but I just have too much going on.

Isabella: Yeah. If it were me and I was in Shai's position, I would totally get it. I just would want a response. To ignore me would really, really piss me off. And the name of the episode was Left on Red.

Dad: Oh, I didn't notice that.

Isabella: Yeah. So I don't like Shai, but I felt a little bad for him there. I was laughing at it too. I was like, this is kind of funny that they're completely ignoring you. But if I put myself in his shoes, I'd be kind of bummed about it too.

Now what was weird though, what I would not have said is he kept bombarding them and goes, should I be concerned? I'm like, Dude, maybe if you were their best best friend and they weren't responding, then yeah. If something was wrong with them, you would not be the person they'd go to anyway.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So stop being like, Oh, should I be concerned? To try and get them to respond to you. I don't like that. That's weird. I don't really remember how it ended, like how next episode is gonna look.

Do you remember?

Dad: They gave a preview of almost the entire season coming up.

Isabella: Oh, that's right. Okay. So, oh, what I did wanna mention is it came out online this week that rumors came out that Ariana hooked up with Charlie during this season. Yes, And

Dad: I think

Isabella: we saw that a little bit on the preview. Yes. That she and Charlie are gonna start getting really close. I think Liam's gonna get pretty jealous. I don't even know if Hudson's still in the mix, her ex boyfriend.

Dad: Right. It didn't show him much in the previews for the rest the season.

Isabella: That's interesting. So maybe he was on the season at the beginning, but then once he realized that maybe he and Ariana weren't gonna get back together right away, maybe he removed himself a little bit more.

Dad: Could be. Could be.

Isabella: Would be smart of him. So I'm I'm excited for the rest of this season. I think it's gonna be good.

Dad: I agree. I think there's a lot of potential there.

Isabella: Yeah. Oh, the other thing, I know we probably need to move on, they're casting for more NextGen in other cities. Like, think they're doing NextGen LA and NextGen they were maybe even gonna do Atlanta, I heard.

Dad: Interesting.

Isabella: Yeah. So I don't know. That's rumors. And I think if it's true, they're still in the casting process. But that would be interesting to see.

I just hope they don't ruin what they have here.

Dad: Right. Okay. You wanna move to Big Brother?

Isabella: Yeah. Not much there. I just there's one thing that happened this week that was pretty crazy if you think about living there. So I mentioned Jason last week, he's the guy who is fake crying to Angela, the older woman on the show, and kind of playing in her face. And she called him out for it.

He has since been called out again for doing shady stuff, like telling people the same thing, telling people, oh, if he wins the veto, he's gonna use it on them. He's saying this to multiple people. He got called out for that again. And the way he reacts is he pulls out this tea kettle and a wooden spoon, and he's going around the house all day and night every time he hears someone talking game or he sees someone having a serious conversation, he goes around the whole house and says, Hello, banging on the pot and says, There's tea, so and so is talking outside, they're talking strategically, everyone go outside and look. He's doing this day and night, and I don't know how long this is going on, but all these people are forced to deal with this.

And it's not the first time this has happened either. There have been people that have banged on pots and pans before to piss other people off. And I think it's part of just like these people are stuck in this house, they do not see the outside world, they have no contact, they only are dealing with each other, I think it makes them go crazy a little bit. And we're only on week three. This show lasts like two months, at least.

Dad: I'm annoyed just listening to you tell that. I can't imagine living through that.

Isabella: Yeah. So either way, he's on the chopping block. Like, he's gonna go. They're over him. They want to vote him out.

So I don't even remember if he did get voted out. But that's all I have for Big Brother. It's a little it's it's kinda crazy this season. It's good.

Dad: Okay. You wanna do the game?

Isabella: Let's do the game.

Dad: Okay. And just really the way this is going to work, she's going to show me one picture at a time, and I'm going try to figure out who they are.

Isabella: I will go ahead and send you the first picture now. Hopefully, it comes through this time. This one I hope you know.

Dad: Okay. It's Real Housewives of New Jersey.

Isabella: Mhmm.

Dad: And oh god, it's like her name was Martha or something. She was the one that got in trouble for taking the copyright infringement with oh gosh. What's the brand with the whale?

Isabella: Vineyard Vines?

Dad: That the one? Yeah. She had some something similar to that and she got in trouble by them. I don't know if it's Martha.

Isabella: Close.

Dad: But, yeah, that's her husband is kind of weird and was thrown in the pool or something like that at one episode. That's all I've got.

Isabella: Threw oh gosh, what's Danielle Staub. Staub. She threw her husband in the pool, and one of her most famous lines is, Your husband's in the pool.

Dad: Right. Okay. I can't think of her name.

Isabella: Okay. That's Margaret Josephs.

Dad: Okay. I had the first three letters right.

Isabella: Who, for the record, I'm not a big fan of. I don't like her very much. But, yes, that's Margaret Josephs. Okay. Next one incoming now.

Dad: Joe Catania.

Isabella: No. Close. Joe Last name's correct.

Dad: Okay. And it's also Real Housewives of New Jersey. It's oh gosh. What's he's the ex husband of Dolores.

Isabella: Correct.

Dad: And it's not Joe. I can't remember.

Isabella: Good guess, though, because all of the New Jersey husbands are pretty much Joe. Margaret's husband is Joe.

Dad: Okay. I can't think of his first name.

Isabella: Frank.

Dad: Got it.

Isabella: Okay. Frank Catania. Yeah.

Dad: Hey, last name is shocking that I would remember.

Isabella: Yeah. Joe Catania. Close enough. You know? Good guess.

Dad: Alright. Number three.

Isabella: Okay. This one's more current. And I don't know, maybe easy, maybe hard

Dad: for you. So easy. Zack from The Valley.

Isabella: Okay. Okay.

Dad: And I noticed when I listened to or watched the show, it's spelled z a k z a c k, sometimes z a c h in the transcript. I don't know which one is right.

Isabella: I don't know which one is usually, I'm good with name spellings like that, but I have no idea which one is right either. I think it's k.

Dad: And I have to figure it out because in this maybe this is too boring, but when I do the editing for the podcast, I try to go through the transcript to make sure all the names are spelled correctly, sucks for Love Island UK because Kavan always comes through as Kevin. And it's just so annoying. People who should be on reality TV with just easy to spell names, but it's horrible. Priya is Every Time Is Wrong. Porsha is Every Time Is Wrong.

Isabella: Me Boomer always says a All my

Dad: every single one of them, I'm spending all this time fixing it.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: Okay. Hey, Okay, I was sort of three through good.

Isabella: Zack with a k.

Dad: And a c.

Isabella: No, it is with a I've confirmed online.

Dad: Right, but it's not ZAK, it's ZACK.

Isabella: Oh, yeah. Sorry. Stupid.

Dad: Okay. Alright. That's all we have.

Isabella: That is all we have. So as usual, let us know if you have any feedback. If you have any documentaries that are good, we're always looking for new documentaries too.

Dad: Oh, and I did watch the one that you mentioned last week. What was it called again?

Isabella: Toxic? A Toxic Love Story.

Dad: Wow. It did have quite a few twists

Isabella: in it. Yeah. It was good, so I recommend it for sure.

Dad: It's a good first one. Oh, and real quick, mentioned you hate Polymarket, but there's a good Insta Docs on Netflix. It's just one episode, it might even just be one hour about Kalshi and Polymarket. I thought it was pretty fascinating. It's not positive.

Think overall the show is pretty negative about that concept. Whether this makes it into this episode, I don't know. But, okay, that's

Isabella: All right, that is all we have for you this week. We will see you next week. Thanks for listening.

Dad: Thanks everyone.

Isabella: That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

Isabella: If you like the show, leave us a rating or a comment. It helps more than you think. Follow us wherever you're listening and on social media at Check Me Boomer.

Dad: And tell a friend who'd get it.

Isabella: See you next week.

Team Priya or Team Julia? Love Island UK and more

Love Island takes over this week. In the UK, the Grafties and Maya Jama's new podcast game turn the villa into a battlefield, and Dad and Isabella split hard over Julia, the season's most divisive islander, with one defending her bluntness and the other worn out by it. Aiden gets exposed as a serial flip-flopper caught between Priya and Jasmine's sister, Samraj and Priya reignite their feud, Ethan is dumped right after an awkward family day, and three couples head into the public vote vulnerable. On the USA side the season is over but the fallout isn't: Nick and Olandria have split, and a season six rivalry flares back up as Kenny takes his breakup with JaNa to a tell-all podcast while Kordell and others rush to JaNa's defense. Isabella also checks in on Big Brother, where houseguest Angela torches a fake-crier at the nomination table.

On the Bravo side, Next Gen NYC's Charlie keeps building his villain edit with quotable one-liners and a murky real-life backstory, Below Deck Med juggles a yacht matchmaker with Captain Sandy's report on the Luke and Nathan mess, and Real Housewives of Atlanta wanders through Scotland with Shamea, Porsha, and Phaedra's new "Lady of the Glen" title. The In the City reunion sorts out Kyle, Amanda, and Lindsay Hubbard, The Valley drops in on Luke Broderick and Kristen in couples therapy, and Salt Lake City loses two couples in a week as Angie Katsanevas and Whitney Rose both announce splits.

This week also marks a new direction for the show, as Dad and Isabella step outside reality TV to briefly start weighing in on documentaries. Dad makes his case for Building a Mystery, the Lilith Fair film on Hulu about Sarah McLachlan's groundbreaking all-women festival and how the music industry treated women at the time, a tour he admits he dismissed back then and now regrets missing. Isabella counters with a run of recent Netflix true crime, including A Toxic Love Story, the high-school-catfish stunner Unknown Number, and the brutal Maternal Instinct. It's a deliberate widening of what the show covers, and they close by asking listeners to send documentary recommendations for future episodes.

Isabella: Hi. I'm Isabella. My dad is obsessed with reality television, maybe even more so than I am.

Dad: She's not wrong.

Isabella: This is Check Me Boomer, a father daughter weekly dish on the latest reality TV.

Dad: Hi, Isabella.

Isabella: Hi, dad.

Dad: How are you?

Isabella: Doing well. Happy Sunday.

Dad: Likewise. Today is July 26. By the time this is released, it will be July 27, and this is episode eight of Check Me Boomer. What do you have on the agenda for today?

Isabella: Lots on the agenda today. Of course, you know we have wrapped up Love Island USA, but I do have a little bit of news regarding that and some breakups in Bravo that I just wanna mention. And then, of course, lots on Love Island UK and our regularly scheduled Bravo shows. And then I have one thing to say about Big Brother. We're gonna have a little check-in with Big Brother.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: So anything you wanna add or you're just gonna be along for the ride?

Dad: Mostly along for the ride. I will cover McBee Dynasty very briefly. I might pitch you on a couple of shows and a movie to make sure you've seen it, one of those generational things. Alright. You wanna start with USA, the this update you're referencing?

Isabella: I just have a couple updates from previous seasons. You might have seen that Nick and Olandria broke up.

Dad: I did.

Isabella: Pretty interesting that it happened just about at the year mark that kind of plays into what a lot of people were thinking was a PR relationship. I don't know, but there's something there. And then the other drama that I've seen going on regarding Love Island USA is from two seasons ago, the season that Serena and Kordell won. There was another couple that came out of there, Janae and Kenny. We've had they ended up breaking up, and we never really got the full story from it.

But we know that JaNa was kind of indicating that she found some racist text on Kenny's phone about JaNa. So he has now come out of his cave and gone on a podcast to tell his side of the story about how he was so victimized and how he was so miserable in this relationship and just making stuff up, saying that she beat him up. She came out and said, my lawyers are in contact. I think you should just release the text that you sent me because that tells the whole story right there. And so Kordell actually came out in support of JaNa, and I think some other people have mentioned it too.

It's just this guy is a big loser, and he's clearly trying to make some last minute cash on the situation, but it's so embarrassing for him. So those that's what's going on in the Love Island USA world right now. The previous season, Bryce and Trinity are doing some interviews and stuff, but nothing nothing really of note there.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: And then I did wanna mention some Bravo breakups we saw this week as well. Angie K and Sean and Whitney Rose and Justin Rose, she was on our game last week. They have both of these couples from Salt Lake City, Rahasselsee. They are now split up, announced within a week of each other. So I don't know what's going on there.

Angie K, I think, is a little bit more surprising. Whitney and Justin, we probably could have seen coming, but still.

Dad: Well, keep us posted if you hear anything more about the circumstances behind their breakups.

Isabella: Yeah. Will do. I will keep my eyes open, but I'm sure it will also play out on the next season as well.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: So looking forward to that. Okay. Do you wanna get into Love Island UK? I got a lot to say there.

Dad: So Okay. Yes. Let me start by saying that notwithstanding that you were forecasting that I would be disappointed because it would be getting too lovey dovey because it's close to the end. It would be so lame like Love Island USA became. I am pleasantly surprised at the amount of drama that they had this week and maybe because it's got longer to go than I'm anticipating, but it's been pretty good.

Isabella: Yeah. I would agree. I think they're definitely trying to do some things to ramp up the drama, and it's working. We had the Grafties this week. We also just saw on today's episode Maya Jama's new podcast game, I guess, where they have each couple come on and answer questions as if they were doing a podcast on the outside.

So these both of these things brought in a lot of drama. There was also just a lot going on with Priya and Aiden, and Julia, and Julia versus Priya, and we've got some couples in love. So I'll just start by saying, on top of Angie and Simba from last week, we now have Kavan and Jasmine, Yaz and Tommy, and Mika and Samraj all have told each other they're in love with each other. So that's nice, but let's get into the drama.

Dad: Yes. And when you get to them, I have comments mainly about Priya Julia, really just about those two.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, I have a lot to say about all of those. The the week started kind of coming off the back of the previous game, which at this point, I don't even really remember what it was. But Aiden's apologizing to Jasmine and Kavan for selecting them for something bad. But we quickly go into the Grafties.

If you've never watched UK before, it's a little bit similar to Movie Night in that they show clips. But instead of it just being clips, it's like kind of an awards show. So I'll just run through who won what, and then kind of what came from the Grafties. So Aiden won a lot. He won flirtiest conversation, biggest plot twist, and raunchiest moment.

Dad: Real quick, for the listeners who aren't familiar with the show, winning in this Grafties night is not necessarily a good thing.

Isabella: That's a good point. That's a good point to point out. It's kind of they're calling people out. So they're winning awards, but it's not really awards you wanna be winning.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: A lot of them are still taking it well. Like, I think Simba was kinda laughing over his he won most dramatic performance. I thought that one was funny. And then Lorenzo won most emotional performance. They were funny.

They're all saying, the rock is gone now. That's a reference to week one. And then the the most interesting award to me was the keep my name out of your mouth award. And this award showed clips from After Sun of dumped islanders talking.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So that award was won by Charlene, but accepted by Mika because Charlene is talking about how Mika is, like, not a girl's girl. I don't know. I don't even remember what the quote was, but Charlene was talking some smack about Mika. She took it well too. We've we had a couple things exposed on the Grafties.

We saw the Priya and Aiden final conversation about wanting to be in the final. We saw the full conversation with Aiden and Jasmine's sister, which we should also probably talk a little bit about family day too, but we saw all their families come in. And, yeah, Jasmine's sister, Bella, I believe her name is, pulled Aiden aside and is talking about, oh, I want you to come hang out with us and come to our parties. And Aiden is, of course, going and telling his brother and all the boys, like, oh, she's cute, isn't she? Not really telling Priya this, but Priya finds out from Jasmine, and that's a whole thing.

But back to the Grafties, I think Aiden overall was just exposed. They're all kinda getting on him. Someone, I don't remember who it was, says, you're Aiden Murphy. You're not gonna change. Poor Priya.

I just feel bad for her this entire time as well as the entire season.

Dad: Let me jump in there because I don't feel bad for Priya at all. She's I'm sick of her. She's constantly saying, I don't care anymore. I can't be arsed. I'm just gonna move on.

Except she says it over and over and over again, so it's pretty clear she is bothered, and she won't stop talking about it. She's constantly going to her friends to reinforce her own problems and what's in her mind, and then they all get together and gang up on Julia. I am still team Julia. I'm sorry. I know that you're irritated.

Isabella: This is where we're gonna disagree, I think.

Dad: Well, I get it that you're not happy with Julia because she went after Jasmine, but I think as between Julia and Priya, I'm on team Julia's side. Anyone who mentions get to the final, you're on notice that someone is going to use that and take the position that you're doing gameplay. And I also think that Priya is saying, I'm just in here to find a relationship, and I'm just gonna stick with what's true. But having been told by Aiden, and maybe I'm stealing some of what you're gonna cover here, he said, I'm not really too deep into it. I'm not emotionally invested.

And her saying, well, I'm still going to see how things go. They're only two weeks. Like, you're only staying in this Less than day,

Isabella: I think.

Dad: Right. So at this point for her to say, this isn't gameplay. I'm just gonna see if we can continue to get to know each other. There's no time left for that. Wait.

Just leave the show and get to know him on the outside if that's really what you wanna do. So she keeps saying that she's not in it for gameplay even when others call her out on it. And it's not just Julia that calls her out later in today's episode, I think Simba and Angelica call her out as well, and that didn't go over well. But she's also a bit of a hypocrite saying that it's just being hurtful when someone gives her an opinion, namely Julia, and she doesn't like being hurt, and it's hurting others. I don't understand that at all.

I don't think anyone is hurt by the opinion that Julia is sharing. But then in today's game, where they say

Isabella: is just nasty. I'm sorry. I just had to jump. Julia's just being like, it's just not necessary, the thing she's saying, but go on.

Dad: Sorry. And this is my point. Priya says you should basically, she says you should just keep those opinions to yourself because they're hurtful. And every time Julia says, okay. Well, then stop coming to me and asking me about them because every time you ask me about them, I will repeat them.

And in today's game, they got mad when Tommy said something about the Priya and Aiden couple in one of the choices that they made, and they said, well, that's not fair. Tommy, you've never said that to me. Okay, Priya. You can't have it both ways. If you're mad because someone gives you an opinion you don't like and you would wish that they would keep the opinions to themselves, fine.

But then don't call out Tommy and say, well, you've never said that to my face. That's an opinion and it was a negative opinion. Then you can't blame him for not saying anything. He was probably smart in saying, well, look, if Julia says something, then I'm going to keep it to myself. So I just I'm sick of her.

Just if you're really not bothered by it, then keep keep your mouth shut.

Isabella: I am not like the the ultimate Priya defender, but I just have to put myself in her shoes Every single time she thinks that a guy likes her, he doesn't. Like, he he backtracks. It's not just Julia that has kind of come for Priya a little bit, how you did mention. It's, I mean, like you said, I think Tommy did, and and she's definitely been talked about regarding the gameplay before. So the the gameplay thing is not where I have issue with.

I think that Julia had every right to mention that part of it because that was brought up at the Grafties. What I have issue with is and and to be clear, I I think Julia is great for the show. I just in real life, I would not be friends with that girl. Like, not even a little bit. I thought Priya had a good quote at one point telling her off in the in the dressing room.

She said, you you say you're giving all the all of your opinions. I have opinions too. I just don't wanna hurt you. So I'm gonna keep them to myself. And of course, then when the game comes around and she's asked about these things, that's when Priya gives her opinion on Julia and Lorenzo.

But I don't think Priya asked for Julia's opinion on Priya and Aiden's relationship. She doesn't care what other people think at this point clear I mean, well, that's tough because I think she she cares, but she's not gonna let other people talk her into what to do. So I respect that she's still staying with Aiden, even though I can't stand Aiden. I don't think he's interested in her at all. I think he's been leading her on this entire time.

So it's really not all on Julia that I'm kind of defensive over Priya. It's it's eight and two. It's I that I feel like no one in this villa has been real with Priya, and it it bothers me.

Dad: Yeah. But maybe she's just thirsty. Right? She thinks every guy likes her, if he doesn't, then she should just move on or leave. She's she's desperate for a connection to stay to the end.

I think that there is stuff that has not been shown or at least that I haven't seen. Maybe you see it on unseen bits, But they all know that she's the biggest fan. That comes up every once in a while, how she's the biggest Love Island fan. And today, when she was talking about there have been thirteen seasons of Love Island, and the OGs are always in the end. There are very few people from Casa or the bombshells.

And that's when Julia turns back and says, see, you're you're talking about things that are based on how things have gone and how the show works as opposed to just me as a person. And then we we'll never agree on this, but one last point on it is that during today's game, every opportunity that Priya and Aiden had to pick a couple, which all of the picks out of the podcast were negative. They were not like saying who's the sweetest couple or who's most likely to get married or anything like that. Every choice was negative and every instance they could, they picked Julia and Lorenzo even on issues that were probably debatable as to whether they were the right picks, and you could see Angelista and other couples saying, oh, that's not right. I'm not sure I agree with that.

But she was just out for vengeance. So she's not beneath acting catty too. She she does it. She just is better at pretending or saying things to make it sound like she's not, but she's catty.

Isabella: Well, to go along with what Priya has said, at the Grafties, I guess or not even the Grafties. What was it? It was Maya Jama's game when Simba and Angie picked Priya and Aiden for something. And then during that game, I guess, later on, Julia's jumping in and just making comments that are just not necessary to make. And so that's when Priya's like, Simba, do you see what I'm dealing with though?

Like, she keeps making these comments and she starts laughing over over my pain pretty much that it's just like, it's exhausting. And I I get what she's coming from there. Like, all the girls have had an issue with Julia.

Dad: Part of it is because they're all friends with Priya. They go back to the very beginning, so they're they're always going to protect their closest friends. And the one part where I didn't quite understand that they didn't get more support when one of the the awards, they they not only pick among the couples, but then they say, okay. What did the public say? And almost every time, they were picking Priya and Aiden.

And on the one that was most on point to Julia's biggest beef with Priya, when the public agreed with her, she said amen, and they all acted like that was horrible. No. It's evidence that lots of people agree with her view, not just the people in the villa.

Isabella: Yeah. I I don't disagree with her most of her views either. I the problem I have is how she's going about it and how she's being so, like she I just feel like it's coming across a little bit nasty. And and again, I I don't think Priya's always right. I think Priya and Aiden should be dumped.

They probably will be dumped. I don't think they're a real couple. I do think they were in it for the final a little bit. But at the end of the day, Julia is great for TV. I would never be friends with a girl like that.

I just really wouldn't. I don't think she has any sort of sympathy for anyone or empathy really even either.

Dad: I I think part of it is when she does say something, she is not emotive in her face or in how she speaks, meaning it comes across as a little bit more monotone, and it might be more likely to be perceived as colder, even though I think that's just how she speaks. She's very it almost comes across as clinical, and in comparison to some of the other girls or women and how they speak, it might not help if you're delivering something that can be seen or received as negative and you have that lack of facial expressions that are commonly delivered by someone when they're trying to give someone bad news. So maybe that's part of it. But I like her. I I would be

Isabella: friends with her.

Dad: Anyway, we we should probably move on from this narrow subject. I know you have a lot

Isabella: to talk about. Yeah. I I do wanna quickly mention the Jasmine thing. Jasmine went and talked to Lorenzo at one point. Clearly, Julia did not like that even though they're obviously just friends.

Julia comes over and tells Jasmine that she doesn't doesn't trust her because of the Jordan and Priya thing, which my thing is, if they've all made up, why are we still talking about the issue? Like, I get it's a TV show, but Jasmine and Priya are cool now. So why is Julia bringing that up again? I I like how Jasmine handled that, and that she was like, okay. If you feel that way, then I don't know why we're talking.

Like, we don't have to be friends. So, I don't know. I'm always gonna be team Jasmine, but I thought that was weird too. Let's talk about Aiden a little bit.

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: So, like I said, he kinda cleaned up his mess with Jasmine and Kavan. And he's he is starting to give Kavan a little bit better advice. But he has zero interest in Priya. It's very clear. The first single girl that Aiden comes across is Jasmine's sister, and he's immediately flirting with her.

And he's going and telling the boys I think I already mentioned this. But point is, he's he's going back and forth with Priya. Like, he's going on this date with Priya and telling her like, oh, cheers to potentially finding love. And then right after that, right after the date, Kavan tells him something like, I I feel like you're not feeling her. And he's like, you know what?

You're right. He goes and tells Priya that he's not really feeling her. And then after the grafties, he goes and says, never mind. I yeah. I don't feel deeply, but I still really wanna get to know you.

So he's just oh my gosh. He's he's just the worst. He's he's pissing me off to no end. He's never fully honest. Like, he wasn't honest about what he told Jasmine's sister.

He wasn't even honest about what he told Alicia. So he's he's the worst. He sucks. That's all I have to say.

Dad: And at one point, he said, I have always been open and honest with how I'm feeling. Okay. Let's put aside for a second that that's not fully accurate, but take it at face value. Even if that's true, the problem is he changes how he feels by day or even more frequently. So he might have been honest and said, okay.

Here's to finding love, and then changed his mind after meeting her family and going on the date. Well, the problem is you shouldn't be changing your mind that quickly. Then the fact that you're honest about it doesn't excuse the fact that you're a roller coaster of how you feel, which obviously impacts Priya and others he's tried to connect with on the show.

Isabella: One more quick thing about Priya that's not about Julia. During the Grafties, Priya and Samraj had another little tiff because they brought up their clip where Samraj calls Priya embarrassing, and then Priya kinda claps back and says, well, f off. And they're kind of the whole villa is kinda laughing over this clip because they made up. But then Samraj's just like, oh, I don't know why you guys are laughing. Like, it's so rude.

Dude, you called her embarrassing. She had every right to clap back at you. And no, she it wasn't right what she said, but you caused that.

Dad: Well, he made a point. I'm not sure it's accurate, but he said that she called or he said she was embarrassing after she called him pathetic. I I can't remember if that order is correct, but she got all mad. Like, the use of the word embarrassing is the worst thing you could say to someone, and it justifies being told to f off. But so I kind of get his point that if she didn't like the word embarrassing, she could have chosen something short of saying f off.

And embarrassing is a little bit more equivalent to pathetic, but this is also stupid. You're right. He should have never he should have just laughed it off and moved on.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: And then she could have also just said, we already talked about this. Let's let's move on. But then they they both doubled down, and they were they had no problem revisiting that whole issue.

Isabella: Samraj , I mean, I do go back and forth with him. I liked how at the family day, he pulled Priya's mom aside and apologized to her. I do think that the hate for those two is are is forced. Like, I do see them I think they're cute together. I know I think the Mika hate especially is forced.

I know she's had a couple situations with Priya and with the Simba thing, but I think those girls love Mika. So if all the girls love Mika, she can't be that bad.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Okay? I think that's forced. Oh, we we didn't mention the most pointless re coupling to ever happen, which was right after family day. Speaking of family day, Ethan and Priya being coupled up on family day and having both their families coming together and talk and, I mean, his family kinda given Priya the business. So awkward.

And then, of course, Ethan was dumped right after that because they did a re coupling, but, like, duh. Just just let him leave with his family at that point.

Dad: Right. That was awkward.

Isabella: So awkward. Simba is gonna get my Unseen Bits MVP because if anyone else watches Unseen Bits, he had this nightmare that was he just woke up out of his sleep and went, ah. It was just funny. And then I guess next week, we're going to see the results of the public voting. So we currently have three couples vulnerable for being voted least compatible by the islanders.

We have Priya and Aiden, Julia and Lorenzo, and Mika and Samraj all vulnerable. I'm gonna go ahead and say Priya and Aiden are gonna get dumped here. Agree?

Dad: Probably. Except that Mika and Samraj have both been in the bottom a couple times, so who knows how that's gonna end up?

Isabella: They have. But based on how the public were voting in the podcast game, I do think it's gonna be Priya morrand Aiden.

Dad: And by the time this episode is released, then we will know the results because it's gonna be on tomorrow's Show.

Isabella: Yeah. That's probably true.

Dad: So Okay.

Isabella: Alright. Any last words there? Should we move on?

Dad: Nope. I'm ready to move on. You want me to cover McBee Dynasty real quick?

Isabella: Sure.

Dad: Okay. I I'm repeating my view. This show is just so bad. But, again, I am watching it, so it's more of a reflection on me. The two characters that are the the worst are both Nate Steven.

One is the patriarch Steven Sr, who you don't ever see except from behind because he's off the show for the season and getting ready to go into prison, which they did show in the most recent episode. But the son, wow. He is just so immature. One of his sister in laws well, guess they're not sister in laws because his brother hasn't married her yet even though they have a kid or she's pregnant. But he is immediately trying to force equity of some sub line that they're selling tallow for facial cream.

One of the girlfriends has been running the show, and so Steven has this brilliant idea to give 20% equity in that company to his new girlfriend of a couple weeks because she's an influencer and has 250,000 followers. And the other woman, I think her name is Casey, points out, well, Steven has more followers than her. McBee Farms has almost as many. And among the family members, they all have if you add them together, they have four times as many followers. But he's just stuck on this and then due to a spoiler from Watch What Happens Live, we all know that he's already broken up or she's broken up with him.

They are not together even though the season is not over. And it's just so bad. And he just has no accountability. Hey, if she's worth all this, then pay her salary. Right?

Every time that her influencer code is used, that she gets a piece of the action, as opposed to just give her 20% of the company. It's just so dumb. Yet he styles himself as the one to naturally run the company when his dad is in prison. There's no other that's not even a close call, except his dad picks his mother to run the company while they're gone, which was like the most drama. Anyway, that's all the show is worth.

I'm sure I will finish out the season, but he's just he's awful.

Isabella: So you know I don't watch this show, but I did see that episode of Watch What Happens Live. And something stood out for me for him on there when he was asked what women in the Bravo universe would you date. He picks out Ciara tomorrowMiller and Mia, I think her last name is Alario from Southern Hospitality. I'm like, oh, so just the two most beautiful young women on Bravo. Okay.

Duh. Oh, maybe he's trying to expand his horizons and

Dad: Or connect with someone with a lot of followers. I'm guessing that Yeah. Obviously, Sierra has way more followers than 250,000. But when you talk at some point, I'll look up Mia, but I just can't be bothered right now. I can't be arsed.

Isabella: Yeah. She you'd know her when you see her.

Dad: Oh, I know who she is. I was gonna look up to see how many followers she has.

Isabella: Oh, gotcha. Okay.

Dad: I think personally, I think she's the prettiest one on Southern Hospitality. And the one that think I would get along with the most. She's funny and doesn't put up with shit.

Isabella: Yeah. She doesn't get enough credit, honestly. She doesn't, but we're excited for that to come back to Southern Hospitality. There's drama going on there, but maybe we could talk about that next week because I wanna get into Big Brother. So for for anyone who hasn't watched Big Brother, it's basically survivor in a house.

The only difference is that it's similar to Love Island. It's being recorded right now. Every time they vote someone off, it's live, like it's live TV. It's happening in LA in the CBS studios as we're watching it. So that's the cool part of the show.

This season, it's all normal people except for three. They brought in two previous survivor cast members and one older big brother cast member named Angela. Now if anyone knows Angela, she's an older woman, probably you and mom's age. She is so funny because she gets so angry and upset and, like, freaks out. So she's just good for TV.

So so what happened in this season so far is she kind of becomes friends with this gay man, Jason. He was on RuPaul's Drag Race before. She connects with him because she has a trans son or daughter. I forget which one. So she's, like, crying to him.

He starts crying back to her and saying, oh, you remind me of my mom. And then as soon as she leaves the room, he, like, starts laughing and saying, like, got her. And he's going and telling people, like, oh, yeah. I fake cried to Angela. And Angela finds out.

So Angela, at the nomination ceremony where everyone is sitting around this roundtable, she stands up and blasts him for it. She calls him out, tells everybody what he did. So that was great. Other than that, we have a couple that's in love not even two weeks in. They're fake breaking up for the game.

We've got grown men crying in confessionals. It's it's it's really entertaining right now. And I know that Big Brother lasts a long time, so it might fizzle out a little bit. But right now, I'm very much entertained.

Dad: Interesting. I do not watch. I probably won't add to my list, but appreciate you covering

Isabella: tough one because it is it is three times a week. So it is a tougher one to get into. But

Dad: Do do they have an equivalent of unseen bits, bloopers, or something?

Isabella: They do, actually. So if you watch that, it's actually four four days a week.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: But I

Dad: do not watch that.

Isabella: The After Sun equivalent, I would say, is during, like, the episode where the person is evicted because they walk out of the house to a live audience, and they're interviewed right there by the host. Right. So the coolest part of the show is that it's all happening right now. And the other cool thing is they have 24 live feeds. So you can go on Paramount plus and see what they're doing as we speak.

Dad: Please tell me they'll

Isabella: do that. Seasons that I've gotten really into, I have gone and done that a little bit. But

Dad: I'm familiar with the show. We used to watch it years ago. I don't know how many seasons have gone on, but I think it's been around for a very long time.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. It's very long. I think they're gonna have their one thousandth episode this season. So yeah.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: But that's all I have to say there, so we can move on. What do you wanna get into, bravo wise?

Dad: Let's do Next Gen NYC, and I'll start off by saying I was disappointed that Riley wasn't on this episode at all, especially given the drama drama from her from the last two episodes. The only notes I took were all related to Charlie.

Isabella: Yeah. Me

Dad: too. He's definitely setting being set up or is setting himself up as the villain for the show again. But, wow, he has the best quotes. First of all, they're all talking about psychics. And he just said psychics are bogus, but he he goes out of his way to ask the psychic if he can bang the gong that's hanging in it.

He said gongs are cool. And for some reason, found that pretty funny. Then there's an argument that he has with what's the Mark's kid's name? Brooks. Brooks.

So they're having an argument, and Brooks says something like you quasi triggered me or something like that. He uses quasi, and then Charlie says, okay. I'm quasi sorry. I thought that was great.

Isabella: I thought that was funny too. Yeah.

Dad: The the best one was, though, Brooks was saying how he was very uncomfortable being around Charlie, and Charlie leans into the biggest drama going on with him behind the scenes and says, are you worried I'm going to kidnap and torture you? And I just thought that that was that was awesome. So funny because

Isabella: must have missed that.

Dad: It's it's great. It's it's during the season or during the episode where they're at that bar. But, yes, behind the scenes, there's some situation where some guy in New York was kept captive and tortured to try to get his pass keys to open up some cyber wallet. And when the guy was arrested on the streets of New York, there was a picture or there's video of Charlie standing close by because it happened in this building. And they never they don't go into any detail as to whether or to what extent he had any involvement, if any.

But it's a it's a running issue that's brought up every once in while on the show. But those are the only comments I had for Next Gen NYC this week.

Isabella: Well, going along with kinda what he was talking about with the that whole situation, when he actually brought up that Ariana's on probation right now, and Ariana snapped her head back and said, excuse me. What what are you talking about? What are you talk like, she just I liked her reaction to that. Ariana is on probation for DUI. She got a DUI right around us where we live.

So Not quite as dramatic as valid point, but not as dramatic at all.

Dad: Kidnapping, torture, cyber, Bitcoin thievery issue

Isabella: Yeah. Alleged. But I'm kind of actually glad that Charlie brought it up because don't think Ariana's ever addressed that. I don't think it was ever brought up on the first season, and it was kind of big news at the time. I think I might have missed something with Charlie and Seth Marks.

I don't remember what Charlie said about Seth. It must have been something at the reunion maybe. Seth Marks, obviously, is Brooke's dad, Meredith Marks' husband. Yeah. I don't really know what went down there, but clearly Brooke is very upset about that.

Dad: I think it was last season they had a sit down, and it seemed like everything was going well. And Charlie in front of Seth and Brooks was acting as if he was taking the advice and appreciated it. But then in the confessional, he was saying, oh my gosh. This is the worst thing ever. I'd rather cut my OD off than be sitting here talking to Seth oMarks.

Isabella: Okay. Yeah. I remember that now. The other thing is Charlie protecting Hudson so much is weird. Like, he's pretending to have now and care about Hudson.

Oh my gosh. This note. What is Charlie wearing in this episode? It looks like he's got, like, a tactical vest on.

Dad: It's a bulletproof

Isabella: Is he about to go, like, join ICE or something? Like, what is going on with his outfit? Does he think he looks cool? I don't understand it at all.

Dad: It's a Halloween event at a bar, and someone at the beginning asked him what he was wearing. And I thought he said, I just put on some random vest. Maybe he said bulletproof vest, but I was having the same reaction looking at him. I'm like, what is that? And then it's a bulletproof event?

Yes. There it was a Halloween it's Halloween in New York City, and everyone else was dressed up. Remember, Georgia was her outfit was the best. She just had gray leggings and a gray shirt and then put on a pigeon mask and walked around periodically.

Isabella: Okay. That's right. See, I thought that that was a different event. No. Like, I knew that they had the Halloween event, and then they had the Rocky Horror Picture Show event.

I maybe didn't realize it was the same thing.

Dad: I think it was on the same night, so that's why it might be confusing.

Isabella: And Maybe, yeah, maybe same night, but two different episodes.

Dad: If that is Oh,

Isabella: and then the best,

Dad: it doesn't fit him very well. It wouldn't work.

Isabella: Well, he he just looks dumb. I mean, he just looks silly. Georgia called Charlie a cult leader. I thought that was funny. And then the kind of peak of the episode was at the end when Amira found out what Charlie said about her boyfriend saying that he's a gay man, which, of course, Amira as a trans woman is not gonna take that well.

So that's kind of how the episode ended on a bit of a cliffhanger. She storms out of the bar. I don't think those two are gonna be friends anymore. I think Charlie's kind of blowing up every single friendship he has. So we'll see how that goes next week.

Dad: That's all I've got.

Isabella: Alright. Should we do

Dad: I've got the

Isabella: I would like to do below deck med. Okay. Go ahead. Okay. First thing I would like to say is how much does this yacht matchmaker cost?

Like asking for a friend.

Dad: I was gonna say, are you interested? Or

Isabella: I am interested.

Dad: Well, I was thinking that the slew of candidates that she got weren't really great. So that's not a good start in my opinion.

Isabella: No. And that's a couple the I have a couple of comments about that. One of the one of the guests is pretty red pill. It was the guy in the fedora and the suspenders, which is super ironic that he's talking about how, oh, women these days are terrible and not loyal and just a weird red pill guy. And then the other guy, his name is Billy.

We find out he's on the phone with another woman every night, or maybe not every night, but once he goes to bed and he's in his own room, he's talking on the phone to another woman. So, yeah, great guys they found here. I think the Luke and Nathan soiled sheets situation is kind of coming to an end now. What I thought was crazy, though, is how Sandy had to write a report about it and called it unprecedented situation. I was like, yeah.

I'm thinking, yes, Sandy. Unprecedented is right. If she's having to write a report and that's going into some database that all these hiring people are gonna see, that he's never getting hired again. I mean, he's done.

Dad: Well, it's it it might just be a report for internal purposes for HR or insurance. Who knows? I don't know. I I struggle to think that there's a requirement that that action fits within you must write a report about this, but who knows?

Isabella: Well, that's why Sandy is like, it's unprecedented. Like, this has never happened to me before.

Dad: Or if it's happened, she's never been told, which I I do struggle with why he told her that other than it's a TV show and it would ramp up the drama.

Isabella: Well, he didn't tell her. Nathan did.

Dad: Because Nathan was the victim. Yes. Nathan telling. That's what I meant.

Isabella: Not Yeah.

Dad: What's his face?

Isabella: So by the end of the episode, we see that Luke is gonna kind of remove himself, which I think was the first thing that he did correctly. There was one quote that I wrote down that from Luke talking to Nathan asking him, will you still give me a chance to be your bro?

Dad: Probably not.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't think Nathan even responded. Think he just kind of ignored the question. And then the last note I have is Cooper being allergic to peanuts. Shout out my little brother.

He was allergic to peanuts for, like, a few years. And trying to just, like, push through it. What are you doing? Like, no need to you can drop the tough guy act when you're having an allergic reaction and your throat is closing up. Like, I promise you, it's it's okay.

You don't need to be a tough guy right now.

Dad: I didn't take it as him trying to be a tough guy. It was more of he didn't wanna be a bother to everyone, and he didn't want to be taken out and not be working because that would fall on somebody else. And he did say that he's had it happen before, and he's been able to work through it. But, yes, it's it's having anaphylactic shock is something that I'm paranoid about, not personally for

Isabella: me. Brush off.

Dad: Right. Right. To the point that when I go out hunting, I, for a long time, carried an EpiPen even for somebody else because I don't know that I'm allergic to anything, but you might find out at the wrong time that you suddenly are allergic to a bee sting or something. And so Yeah. For him to be as only taking what was it?

Benadryl and hoping that that would work. Right? I I probably would have been taking the Benadryl and then stabbing myself with the EpiPen pretty quickly thereafter because it's one of those things that

Isabella: if you start to find somebody

Dad: to fix yourself. You're you're toast.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was crazy that they didn't have an EpiPen on him, period, if he has a peanut allergy. Like

Dad: Right. I would think that not only telling the chef that you have a peanut allergy, that would be something that everyone on the ship would know about, and they would know where his EpiPen is. Because calling for someone to come on a boat to to give him medical treatment, it might it might be too late.

Isabella: Yeah. That could have ended a lot worse. Like, I think it's good that he had some Benadryl on him. If not, who knows? But Right.

That is all I had for below deck med. So Same. Let's do Atlanta real quick. It's not wasn't a great episode. Be honest.

I know you probably agree. They're still in Scotland. The at the beginning of the episode, Shamea, who had left because she had an argument with Porsha, she kind of came back out joined the group. And as soon as she showed up, half of the group, Porsha, Drew, and their little crew, they left. Thought that was a little bit petty, but whatever.

Shamea telling Cynthia that she still sees PJ, who is Porsha's daughter, through Dennis. Just, like, oh. Just that's a sketchy situation. I don't know how that's gonna go.

Dad: I'm just waiting for a reboot of that show.

Isabella: Of of Atlanta?

Dad: Yes. I just Oh,

Isabella: well, I I kinda feel like they've been trying to they've been trying to do mini reboots every season, and it hasn't really it's not gonna work until they bring back NeNe Leakes. I mean, that's just what's gonna happen or what's gonna have to happen. I had, like, two other comments. I I like to see Porsha and Phaedra's friend Phaedra's friendship, but two, I think it was Shamea's point. I don't think that they really hang out outside of the TV show.

Like, this whole freaking frack thing, I love it for the show. I don't think it's real. But Porsha got Phaedra a gift for her birthday that she has a title, lady of the glen now. So I guess she's gonna join the countess in the group of Bravo celebrities with royal is is it royal titles or no? It's title.

Dad: It probably is. Like was real when she was married is my understanding.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, I I liken it to and maybe you wouldn't get this, but Scott Disick, who is the father of Kourtney Kardashian's kids. He was named a lord just for fun. So he goes by Lord Disick now. I kinda think it's the same kind of thing, that they think that that's real, but it's probably not.

Dad: To me, it's the one of wherever you go online, and then you can pay to have a star named after you. I I mean, it's it's a joke.

Isabella: They're buying those stars. Or, like, sponsor a penguin. Right. And then I also noticed that Phaedra taking the ladies to a cemetery. Weird.

And then she's like hanging on all like this cemetery guy. What are their names? The cemetery guys. Grave diggers or whatever they call them? Well, Phaedrus hanging all over this guy walking through the cemetery, and it really reminded me of how she was hanging all over CT when she was on The Traitors.

So I just wrote that down. Maybe she tends to hang on random men.

Dad: I don't know. She's a mortician, so that maybe that explains some of her fascination with death.

Isabella: Well, yeah. That completely explains it. I I get where she's coming from there. It's just still weird. So that's all I got for Atlanta.

I think we're almost done with it. I just yeah. I'm over it too.

Dad: Yep. I

Isabella: think the last couple we have Oh, correct. We got In the City reunion and The Valley. Right?

Dad: Sure. Pick which one.

Isabella: Okay. I don't have much on In the City reunion. My biggest thing is I it's just so weird how now Kyle is gonna be nice to Amanda. When they were married, he was not like, he the things that he says about Amanda at this reunion is the nicest thing he said to her in years, in in my opinion.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Yeah. So the weird the the nicest he's been to her in years. So I think it's weird because why are you being so nice to her after she is, like, now dating your one of your friend I don't know. It's the whole situation's weird. Kyle and Salley are weird.

I mean, they're a couple kind of now. I don't know if I see that.

Dad: And Amanda suggesting that there would be a double date opportunity. I thought that was weird.

Isabella: Yeah. It's all weird. It's all so weird. Lindsay's still dating around. She is still seeing the milkman that was on the season, but clearly that's not anything serious.

Now the big thing I had for this is during the season when the single mom thing came up, I was very, very much on the side of Lindsay and Georgina, I think is this.

Dad: Yeah.

Isabella: I was very much on their side because I was like, you don't you you just don't say that. Like, you you should probably not say anything negatively about being a single mother. Not that with the not that that was Whitney's intention, but I'm a little bit more on Whitney's side now because I felt that she gave a really genuine apology. At least it came off that way to me. Lindsay comes back with kind of disregarding all of that, and she she's I love Lindsay Hubbard.

She's great for TV. She's so dramatic. Like, saying you almost threw up when you saw it, saying you cried about it for six months, maybe all true. I just feel like it's a stretch. Love you, Lindsay, but it's kind of a stretch.

And Whitney clearly is torn up about it, and she regrets it. I mean, that's very clear. So what are we doing?

Dad: Right. I think that one thing most people learn when they've been on these shows for a long time, that at some point when someone apologizes, even if you don't believe it, and I agree with you, I thought that Whitney's apology was heartfelt and sincere. But even if you don't believe it, you just suck it up and yeah. Right. You suck it up and say, okay.

Accept your apology. But then she basically said you're gonna have to apologize 18 more times and and do something else, which is just ridiculous.

Isabella: Yeah. I mean, it's it's Lindsay doesn't have to forgive that girl. We've seen it so many times on reality TV when they're like, okay. We'll just agree to disagree. But I feel like Lindsay kind of went in with this whole speech planned.

And Whitney's genuine apology, she wasn't gonna change course. Like, she was not gonna change course even a little bit. She was gonna get what she wanted to get out regardless.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: But still love Lindsay. She's great.

Dad: I didn't have anything else to add for in the city other than I wrote down that Lindsay is super annoying. I'm just so I think that's consistent with what we've just been talking about.

Isabella: Yeah. Valid. Valid. I have, like, two things from the Valley. I think I mentioned it last episode.

This show is not good. The Valley is not a good show. It should be canceled. Okay. With that being said, we saw Luke and Kristen in couples therapy.

And Luke, you're on a run right now of some nasty, nasty things said. I think I mentioned last week what he said about Janet saying, clearly, like, I'm not surprised she changed her story about her, like, sexual assault. And now she he's telling it he's saying to Kristen's face that, oh, well, yeah, we got engaged. I hadn't met pregnant Kristen at that point. Just brutal.

Just brutal thing to say to your future wife. Oh, especially if you wanna have more kids.

Dad: I I get what you're saying, but I don't think he meant it that way because everyone knows that part of the problem is he's having a hard time dealing with how she acts because of postpartum. And he's not saying it's wrong to have postpartum. He just wants people to recognize that it's not easy to be the one dealing with it, especially because he has his own issues. And he just kind of distilled that down into a very short sentence that comes across as very callous to say I hadn't met pregnant what's her name again? Kristen.

I hadn't met pregnant Kristen yet, which is a 100% true and consistent with what he's been saying. It's just he said it in a way that's hard to receive. But, anyway, I agree it came across as not good, but I also get where he's coming from.

Isabella: Yeah. I I agree that I I know what he was trying to do. But, yeah, he should have considered what he was saying before that.

Dad: The only thing I have from the show was the Chili's luncheon when they were doing it. And I I ran across something online that obviously other people had the same view as I thought, oh, this is, wow, a really obvious product placement opportunity because in general, yes, they'll show the the location and make clear that they're gonna give some credit to the venue where they're having lunches or dinners or whatever. That's across reality television. But to say the name of the restaurant in advance of where you're going so many times and then name some of the items on the menu when you sit down to have it, it leads people to think that it's a product placement opportunity. But I saw some of the cast members did respond and say, this clearly wasn't a product placement because number one, we love the Chili's in, I think they said maybe Encino or something.

And it's not a good look for Chili's to have the situation where the guy went to the bathroom, and I'll leave it at that. But still very weird. Maybe they meant for it to be a product placement. It just didn't land well because he had a accident in the restroom, which wasn't caused by the food. He hadn't eaten yet, but still not a great look.

Isabella: I kinda forgot what you were talking about with the bathroom thing for a second, but now I'm remembering. I I could see it being either because it was Janet's idea to go to Chili's. If you remember, Janet also brought the whole group to Dave and Buster's for her birthday. Oh, you're right. Now could you say that that was a sponsorship too?

Possibly. But I think that Janet also made a point to say she grew up in, like, Middle America. Like, she went to Cheesecake Factory and Chili's and, like, Cracker Barrel growing up. She feels very much at home in chain restaurants. So, yes, I think you have a point that maybe they did get sponsorships from this or what I don't even know what you call it when it's a TV show, but brand deals.

I don't know. But maybe, but also I could see it not. I think that she just is weird about chains.

Dad: Well, I think it us talking about this supports your opening point that the show is not that great, and the fact that we're focusing on something so

Isabella: is

Dad: not supportive of the show being ripe for continuation. The only thing I think the show has going for it is the reunion will come up. And then like a lot of these shows, the reunion is the best part of the entire season. And for one that has a season that's been so lame, it's it's gotta shine. It's it's got a very low threshold of improvement.

Isabella: Yeah. And I to your point with the reunion, I think that I think Kristen's gonna have a problem at the reunion because Kristen is very much team Nia and Danny and very much anti Janet. And Kristen was not at this Chili's luncheon, but she is saying that, oh, Zach and Lacy, who Lacy is Jesse's girlfriend, saying Zach and Lacy were texting me the whole time saying, oh my gosh. I can't believe I have to be here with Janet that Lacy was, like, having a panic attack walking in because she didn't wanna be there with Janet. And Kristen's saying this to Lala .

La la is like, Kristen, you're majorly throwing your friends under the bus right now. So I am interested to see how that plays out, like, if it's all if they all kinda gang up on Kristen now or if Kristen's able to wiggle herself out of that. I don't know. But that, I guess, I'm interested in. But, really, that was my only point also.

So I think that's all I got.

Dad: Yep. Okay. Well, we were going to do the game, but we'll do it next week. We'll plan better and have the pictures in hand. And as always, if you have suggestions about shows that we're we are missing, let us know.

Oh, before I forget, I had reached out to you. I strongly encourage you to watch that Lilith Fair documentary. I think you'll really like it. It's definitely called Building

Isabella: a Mystery,

Dad: and it's on Hulu. And I think you would really like it, especially because it talks about how women were treated differently in the music industry. This was kind of a pioneering event where it was a summer festival. Sarah McLachlan started it. And I was in my twenties at that time and I poo pooed the whole idea.

I thought, oh my gosh, this is just I I talked down about it and didn't go. And it's one of the things after watching the documentary, I look back and think, wow, I really missed out. Because the music is insane. The women that they had on those tours, just amazing. And I think you would like it, especially because it shows women power kind of stuff in that industry and how they had to fight to get to where they were.

None of the big sponsors were covering them. They were kind of doing it all on their own. That's a great one. But I I encourage you. And look, if you watch that documentary and like it, then we'll talk about it on an episode.

Isabella: Okay. Well, while while we're there, I watched a documentary last night. By the way, I'll add it to the list. Noted. I watched a documentary last night on Netflix called I think it was called A Toxic Love Story.

Let me just verify that.

Dad: I think that's right.

Isabella: Yeah. A Toxic Love Story. You said you started it. I'm so I'm not gonna give a spoiler here, but basically, it starts with a US marshal and his wife, his pregnant wife. They are getting harassed by his ex girlfriend.

Dad: By email only?

Isabella: Out by email only. So it's an hour and a half, one episode documentary. The way it begins, you kind of have an idea in your head of how it's gonna go, and it doesn't go that way at all. There are a couple twists, so it kept me it definitely kept me interested. I enjoyed it.

It wasn't the best documentary I've ever seen, but it I thought it was well done, and it was short enough. You know, a lot of these documentaries these days, it's, like, 10 episode series. So I really appreciate when there's, like, a short enough documentary that gets it all in there, and then I'm done.

Dad: Was the one that we both watched where it had the ultimate twist at the end? It was the the daughter that was getting harassed and bullied. Wait.

Isabella: What is called? What is that called? Unknown Number, the high school catfish.

Dad: Okay. Yeah.

Isabella: That That was was a good I also watched, and I think a lot of people know of this one too, Maternal Instinct on Netflix. Brutal, brutal, brutal trigger trigger trigger warning. If

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Like, that was brutal to watch. Horrible.

Dad: But Yep.

Isabella: It was good.

Dad: Okay. Well, so that's one of the things that Isabelle and I have talked about is bringing in documentaries and then just weighing in on them so that we expand the audience. It's another thing that she and I talk about periodically. It's not just reality television. So

Isabella: Yeah. I don't I don't know how much we'd ever, like, dive super deep into these because I wouldn't wanna spoil it for people, but even just like recommendations.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Right. So if anyone We will take recommendations

Dad: Please.

Isabella: From our audience as well. So please send us a message if you think we'd like something and if you'd like us to discuss it on the next episode.

Dad: Great. Other than that, thanks for listening, and we'll see you next week.

Isabella: Thanks for listening. That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

Isabella: If you like the show, leave us a rating or a comment. It helps more than you think. Follow us wherever you're listening and on social media at Check Me Boomer.

Dad: And tell a friend who'd get it. See you next week.

"Top Model in Cowboy Boots": Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders + Love Island UK

Dad and Isabella review the entire new season of Netflix's Emmy-nominated America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, plus the Love Island USA finale, Love Island UK, and the week in Bravo.

This week a father and daughter add a new show to the lineup: America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders on Netflix, freshly Emmy nominated for its third season. Dad led this one, covering director Greg Whiteley's no-narration style, the athleticism behind jump splits in cowboy boots, a makeover day that felt straight out of America's Next Top Model, the pay fight that changed the squad, and the real-time social media scrutiny facing Reece, Faith, Savanna, Emily A, and the rest of the 2025-26 team, with Kelli and Judy presiding over the toughest cuts yet.

Before that, the Love Island USA finale gets a quick wrap-up, and Love Island UK takes center stage as the season enters its final weeks. Then the Bravo rundown: the Shamea and Porsha fallout on The Real Housewives of Atlanta, a galley scandal boiling over on Below Deck Mediterranean, quick hits on The Valley, In the City, and Next Gen NYC, and a new round of the game where Isabella tests Dad's Bravolebrity memory.

"Today has irritated my whole existence" Love Island UK, USA and more

Dad's fully saturated on Love Island USA just as the finale hits, but Love Island UK's movie night has both Dad and Isabella locked in, including Lola vs. Julia, and Ellie one bombshell from walking out. Plus: Melanie's family stages an intervention over Sincere, Below Deck Med's Game of Thrones "shame" walk, The Valley, In the City, and Next Gen NYC.

On Love Island USA, the season grinds toward its finale with four couples left standing (Bryce and Trinity, Melanie and Sincere, Carl and Aniya, Kayda and Zach) after a karaoke-night dumping sends Corbin and Parmida home. Family day turns heavy as Melanie's mother and sister beg her to walk away from Sincere, and Isabella lays out her finale predictions plus her guesses on which couples actually survive the real world, with Aftersun notes on Ciara's Summer House move and the islanders' winner votes. Over on Love Island UK, the post-Casa Amor smoke still hasn't cleared: movie night exposes Jasmine and Lorenzo, Lola digs in hard on Julia, Simba grovels his way back toward Angie, and Ellie sits one bombshell away from walking out on Finley.

The Bravo side runs lighter this week with Atlanta off. Below Deck Med lands a standout (a Game of Thrones charter group, the "shame" walk, and the Gen, Luke, and Nathan fallout), while The Valley digs into Janet's backstory, Lala's refusal to back down, and the strain between Nia and Danny. Summer House: In the City serves Kyle's DJ-gig drama and Amanda's thick irony, Next Gen NYC sets Brooke Shields against Kim Zolciak (with Riley's mean-girl turn), and Dad delivers a quick, weary verdict on McBee Dynasty.

Isabella: Hi. I'm Isabella. My dad is obsessed with reality television, maybe even more so than I am.

Dad: She's not wrong.

Isabella: This is Check Me Boomer, a father daughter weekly dish on the latest reality TV. Hello, father. Afternoon. We're back. We are both home from our vacation, and we're ready to talk about reality television again.

Dad: And another housekeeping note, we are recording separately her at her apartment, me at the house, so forgive any audio problems. This is the first time we've done it this way.

Isabella: Yeah. Fingers crossed it it turns out well. So this was a busy week for me, especially. As we previously mentioned, we were in Louisiana visiting some family. I was there all week.

You left on Tuesday, but we still kept up with the reality television. I will say I had to have a pretty hefty Bravo marathon yesterday getting home, but I kept up with Love Island all week and even subjected the family to that, which, created some interesting conversations. You can imagine, you know my grandmother, my 85 year old grandmother. We love her to death.

Dad: I think we did get some new converts. At least my sister-in-law, I think, is now a Love Island fan. We'll see what happens now that we're both gone.

Isabella: Yeah. She did mention to us, and if you're listening, shout out. You know who you are. We won't call you out by name, but she did say she's gonna stop once we once we leave. But I also said, well, you gotta watch the finale.

Exactly. I mean, we have the finale tonight, so you gotta tune into that. So we'll see. Maybe maybe she will.

Dad: Well, we'll get to my view on the finale in a minute.

Isabella: We certainly will. I guess, that note, should we go ahead? Oh, I did wanna make one more note. By the way, for the permanent record, we both do have full time jobs Even though sometimes keeping up with all these shows might feel like a full time job, we do have jobs. So just just wanna make that clear.

Dad: Yes. Noted.

Isabella: That we have we got other things going on too, but we make this a priority because it's fun for us.

Dad: Especially as a father daughter team. Yes. And maybe just outline the shows that we're gonna cover this week before we get into one.

Isabella: Yeah. Okay. So both Love Islands, US and UK. And then we have I I have a couple notes on after sun as well for USA. And then a bit of a lighter week on the Bravo sphere, we had Atlanta off.

So we'll be covering below deck in the city, the Valley, NextGen NYC, and then anything else that you caught up with.

Dad: I will make a passing comment about McBee Dynasty, but it will be brief.

Isabella: Okay. And I do want to also make a note that Big Brother started week. I am not caught up. I'm not sure I'll be talking about it much, but if something crazy happens, just know that I am tuned in to that

Dad: as well.

Isabella: So I think on that note, because we've kind of already mentioned Love Island USA in the finale tonight, we start there?

Dad: Before you go through the recap, I just wanna say I am at my limit with USA. I don't know if you wanna say I'm fully saturated. My appetite is over. I am not looking forward to the finale. To me, it's so analogous to survivor when it's down to the final three.

I don't care. I can fully see myself and your mother fast forwarding through a lot of it because if it's like past seasons, this is a mix of live and taped portions, and it's just always been incredibly boring to me. All the drama's gone. I don't really care who wins.

Isabella: I get it. I think that is kind of a running theme with these shows is the last week gets a little bit boring, and it's I like to see who wins, but it's yeah. For the for the most part, the final week is pretty low drama, pretty

Dad: Lame.

Isabella: Everyone's being nice to each other. Yeah. Lame for lack of a better term. But we'll still recap it a little bit, and I I definitely still have some opinions, especially on family night and some of these couples. So I think where we left off was their they had the compatibility voting where they dumped two couples, which we'd previously talked about.

So we're picking up kind of with the fallout from that. I think the bid the big thing was Kenzie and Melanie kind of had it out for each other, but they made up very quickly. So I don't think there's really much there. I thought that was fine. And then we went into karaoke night, which I can just imagine when you found out that they were doing that, you were rolling your eyes massively.

Dad: It's like you can read my notes. That's the first bullet point I have is karaoke was horrible. Such a complete waste of time.

Isabella: You know what? I just playing devil's advocate, I will give the credit for it finally not being a majorly raunchy challenge. It it was just kind of a a sweet challenge, but, yeah, nothing nothing really came from that, except we got a dumping right after that. Kenzie and Dylan won the karaoke challenge, so they ended up being safe from the dumping. I think most of us can agree that they likely would have been dumped if they weren't saved.

Even Kenzie said in the dressing room later asking the girls, would I have been dumped and to crickets? I think they would have been dumped if they weren't saved. So Kenzie's splits quite literally saved her from dumping.

Dad: I had a thought about that. If they had not been saved, would all three couples have been up for elimination causing each cup other couple to pick among three, or would they have always narrowed it down to two so they could just pick a versus b?

Isabella: That's a good question. I guess, if the per if the couple that won the challenge was not in the bottom anyway, then I do think maybe they would have been picking between the three couples. And I do think that Kayda and Zach were never gonna go home. It would have been close between Kenzie and Dylan and Corbin and Parmida, I think. So, of course, Corbin and Parmida ended up getting dumped.

I was kinda bummed about it. They were growing on me a little bit, but it is what it is. It's the it's the end. Everyone's gotta go home. So yeah.

Then we the the other couple in the bottom was Kayda and Zach, which everyone, of course, stood behind them. They're pretty much OGs. They also became exclusive this episode, and I think they were both pretty torn up about being in the bottom. Kaydaa was wondering if America hates her. Zach is wondering if he's eve if he's good enough for Kayda, which, no, he's not.

That's kind of the thing. I I think I've talked about my issues with Zach before. He's just sketchy. I I just don't trust that man, but I they're not the worst couple on there, which we will absolutely get to.

Dad: I think they were just worried about what the country thinks of them, and is there a chance that they're not going to win?

Isabella: Yeah. It which is valid. I think kind of realizing you're probably not gonna win sucks. What sucks even more is thinking about maybe the entire country hates me.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: I I do think that's probably a stressful thought. So I I get it. I feel for them, but I still don't really like them that much. And talking about them being becoming exclusive, we had a little bit of a tiff between Trinity and Kayda. Trinity told Kayda that she thinks that that's just a situationship.

If you're not boyfriend girlfriend, that's just a situationship, which I will say in the real world, she's absolutely right. Love Island world is a bit different, though. I kind of see where Kayda and Zach are coming from and that they don't wanna make it really official until they see how it goes on the outside. So I'm I love Trinity to death. I think I'm on Kayda's side for this one.

Dad: It just it's semantics. It's all BS because none of it's real. It closed off exclusive situationship. Those are just words. Right?

It's again, generational. There was nothing called a situationship back when it was relevant to me.

Isabella: I guess, yeah, a situationship implies that part of the couple is not that into it. And I don't really think that's the case here with Kayda and Zach. As much as I don't like Zach, they clearly are into each other. So I didn't think that was fair, but still love Trinity. So whatever.

Dad: They buried it pretty quickly.

Isabella: They did. They did. They made up pretty quickly. We also saw Dylan crying a bunch over, I guess, a lot over. I guess, he was clearly upset that he was in the bottom two.

He, I think, is now realizing that maybe the public has seen through Kenzie and her the way she's moved, but I don't really think it's fair for him to be upset about that now. He watched all the episodes before Casa Amor, so he saw her do that to, Caleb and Corbin with between the two of them. So it did make me question how genuine he is, but that's debatable. You know?

Dad: On the crying thing, I have nothing against grown men crying, but let's try to keep it to something relatively important and understandable. Maybe one of those situations where he's crying, okay, pass. But multiple times about someone he's known a few days, and he's on TV. I mean, wake up. Right?

Like, go to the if you have to cry, go to the bathroom. Right? Like, run away. Don't what? He I have to imagine he's gonna catch some flack from that from his buddies.

Isabella: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He did talk about on Aftersun , which I'll mention I'll talk a little bit more about later that he's a very emotional guy,

Dad: which Obviously.

Isabella: He could well, yeah. I he's saying that he's always been that way, which, of course, he's gonna say. So I don't know. We'll see. We'll see if they work.

I have a little bit more to say about them when we talk about family day, but that's they and then we'll talk about who made it to the finale because spoiler alert, they did not.

Dad: So I wonder how much he cried at, like, Old Yeller or Joy Luck Club or movies where there's something really sad. I mean, is he having to run out of the theater? I it's just

Isabella: Well, this is where I'm gonna embarrass myself and say, I don't know what movies what movies those are. And they're probably classics, I'm just bad with movies. So that's on me.

Dad: No. It's they're old.

Isabella: Okay. Well, maybe I'll watch them one day. Should we get into Melanie and Sincere? There's a lot to say about this one couple specifically.

Dad: Yes. But my overarching comment is I think Sincere and Kenzie are perfect for each other, and I know I'm not alone on that. I even saw a a meme online where their faces were melded together and that they're the same person.

Isabella: You're right. They they moved very similarly. I the one thing I'll give Kenzie credit for is I think she did a better job at taking accountability, whereas Sincere not that he hasn't taken accountability, but he's I just maybe I'm just not buying it as much from him. I've noticed sometimes when he's talking to Melanie, he's not even looking in her eyes. He's and he just keeps saying the same thing over and over again.

I wonder at a certain point does he just feel like he has to say these things to get her back. So but, yes, I I agree. I think Kenzie and Sincere are very similar in the way that they moved. Agreed. And we also also at the beginning of the week, we saw Melanie and Sincere get voted into the hideaway, and that genuinely pissed

Dad: me off. You were gonna be angry because we were watching it separately, I said, oh my gosh. I'm so annoyed. Two minutes in, I think I sent you that message without telling you why. And then your mother told me later that you were watching it, you were so angry.

And I I knew exactly why.

Isabella: Yeah. I think I I followed up with texting you back, I'm pissed. Yes. Just with no context. Yeah.

Biggest eye roll of the season for me. But let me give sincere the tiniest, tiniest amount of credit here that he didn't run over to his boys and say every single thing that happened. I give him a crumb of credit for that.

Dad: That's fair. Did you catch earlier I said fares?

Isabella: Fares? Yeah. Like the British. I did not catch that, but I like that. Okay.

Let's see. We saw KC and TT become boyfriend and girlfriend. You met you texted me that you're something about them. I thought it was cute. I thought the whole scavenger hunt was cute, but maybe I'm just, like, a romantic, I guess.

I don't know. Did you think it was stupid?

Dad: I just thought it was a little bit inconsistent. If you defend the one couple for going to what what was it? Exclusive or closed off that Trinity called a situationship. Okay to and Zach. If you defend that Yeah.

Then I think it's ridiculous for someone to go all the way to becoming boyfriend and girlfriend. They've known each other for a shorter amount of time. To me, it seemed True. A 100% gameplay. Like, holy shit.

If we have a chance of winning this, we've gotta up our game, and let's just become boyfriend and girlfriend.

Isabella: That's a fair point. And I I, well, I guess I I do disagree, but I I also wouldn't be shocked if that was the case. I'm I think I'm rooting for them. I do think they do have, like, a good they seem very compatible. They seem like they'd be good together, but you never know.

So we'll just have to see what happens with them.

Dad: When you say rooting for, you mean, like, overall in life? Because

Isabella: I guess. I mean, I I think I just think that they do work together, at least from what we would I I okay. So, yes, I'm rooting for them as a couple in life. I'm rooting for them to make it as a relationship. That's obviously spoiler alert, they were dumped.

So I guess now that we're talking about that, we can mention that, and we'll go back to family day and discuss that a little bit. But we did see KC and TT and Kenzie and Dylan get dumped. So the finale consists of Bryce and Trinity, Melanie and Sincere, eye roll, Carl and Aniya, and Kayda and Zach. So we'll see how that goes. I personally voted for Bryce and Trinity.

I think Melanie and Sincere should absolutely not win, but I'll have some predictions on that later. I do wanna talk about family day a little bit, Melanie and Sincere, especially. Sincere's dad and Melanie's family, they all came in ready to go, like, ready to well, Sincere's dad was ready to roast his son, and I love that from him. He totally deserved it. Sincere did take it on the chin.

I'll give it to him. Like, he didn't go cry and, like, get all pissed. The big thing to me was Melanie's sister and her mom telling her her mom I think her mom only speaks Spanish, so she's saying in Spanish, your heart is sacred. There are so many people waiting for their first chance with you, and you are still on this guy giving him a third chance. Her sister said he is playing you, Melanie.

Like, they're pretty much begging her to leave this man, and she's crying. It was genuinely a hard watch for me, all things she needed to hear, but it was still a hard watch just for her to go and later say, you know what? I think I'm still gonna give him a chance on the outside world.

Dad: Not only that, she said, I'm gonna just not pay attention to any of the voices or something along those lines. But thinking back of the scene where she was crying and her mother and sister were talking to her, the more I think about it, she probably if there was a thought bubble over her head, it was, I miss sincere. I wish they would stop talking so I could get back to seeing him. Right? She she wasn't even paying any attention.

She's like, wah wah wah wah wah wah.

Isabella: I don't know. I think she's listening to them, but she's not wanting to take their advice, clearly. She she's gonna ride it out. She clearly has strong feelings for sincere, and no mat whatever her family says is not gonna change her mind. So she's young.

I'll give her grace. It's her prerogative. But, yeah, that's it's not gonna work out. It's gonna be worse in the outside world. I think it's a lot easier to mess around in the outside world when you're not being filmed.

So I don't think it's gonna go well, but she clearly is can is set on that.

Dad: Yep.

Isabella: Then just a couple more things about family day before I'll give my finale predictions. I love Bryce's grandma. Love her. She's hilarious. I loved Aniya's mom telling Aniya that you need to be a better friend to Melanie.

Like, stop telling her to get back with this man. So Aniya went and told Melanie that and said, my mom told me that he's toxic, and I should not be encouraging you to be back with him, so I apologize. I like that that happened. And then my last thing

Dad: is But Melanie didn't receive it very well. She

Isabella: She didn't. Of course,

Dad: she didn't.

Isabella: But I liked it from Aniya, because I was not liking how that went with Aniya, and so I'm glad her mom called her out on that. And then I know we talked about Kenzie and Dylan and how I don't know how good they are, but they got they gained some points when Dylan's mom was like, I love Kenzie. I think she's been true to herself. Like, give her a chance. Don't get on her for that.

And then Kenzie pulled his mom aside before they left. They they gained some points in my book.

Dad: I thought that was nice or at least it appeared to be nice. Who knows? Whether it was sincere.

Isabella: Be doing it just for just to look good or to but regardless, it was a nice gesture. So tonight, Sunday, you got something else to say? Go ahead.

Dad: As you give your predictions, I have a question for you at the end of your predictions.

Isabella: Okay. So we have the finale tonight, and I I do wanna hear your predictions as well. But I'm kinda basing this off of what I have seen on social media, and I could be totally wrong. And this also is not a a prediction of what I want to happen. It's what I think will happen.

I think Bryce and Trinity are gonna win. I think they have this thing locked up, and I think they have for a while. I think Melanie and Sincere are gonna come in second place, and I hate that. But there are weirdly a lot of Melanie and sincere supporters. I don't get it, but I wouldn't I'm not gonna be surprised if that happens.

I see Carl and Aniya in third place, and I see Kayda and Zach in fourth place.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Thoughts.

Dad: My predictions, I don't care at all. And Okay. Other than who you think is gonna win, Trinity and Bryce, I agree with you. I don't I have given zero thought to it. The only thought I gave to it was listening to you right there, and I agree with your first choice.

My question to you is which of the four in what order are they going to break up? Who's the first to break up in real life after they get out?

Isabella: Okay. Out of the four. This is purely my opinion.

Dad: Of course.

Isabella: And I'm really not basing it off of anything but vibes. I I think Carl and Aniya are gonna break up first, And then I am really, really, really rooting for Bryce and Trinity. Well, next, I'm gonna put Melanie and Sincere because he's gonna cheat on her.

Dad: That doesn't mean they're gonna break up, though.

Isabella: That doesn't mean they're gonna break up. That's why I hesitate to say that, but I do I am gonna put them second just because he's already broken her heart multiple times. Like, please, girl, just leave him. I kind of feel like I see Kayda and Zach staying together the longest as much as I don't want that to happen. I think she deserves better.

I'm gonna go Bryce and Trinity third and then Kayda and Zach. I I want Bryce and Trinity to work. I don't I know they've talked about how long distance is hard, but I'm rooting for them. I could see Kayda just following Zach wherever he goes, unfortunately. So that's why I'm putting them last.

Dad: Okay. I I didn't have any particular order other than I don't disagree with the order you picked. I do think that the long distance may pose more of a problem than you or they are anticipating.

Isabella: Yeah. Also, I'm pretty sure Zach lives in LA now.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: We know he's British, but I don't think he lives there anymore. I know his older brother who was on last season does live in LA now. So I don't think that that's gonna be as much of an issue as we as many might think it will be. K. I didn't mention the thing I wanted to mention about Aftersun , so I'll be quick.

I'll be brief. One, Ciara mentioned she was remote, and she mentioned she's filming summer house. So Ciara's back on next season of summer house. That's great. Parmida was making weird comments to Corbin about, oh, I'm famous in my city, and I date rappers and athletes, so you better, like, be careful not play me.

TT was asked if she's gonna be friends with every everybody, and she said no, which I thought was weird, but okay. Kenzie made a comment that she she was asked about the split, and she's like, you know, every morning, I wake up, I read my bible, and then I stretch my hip flexors with a split. Just so Kenzie. And then they all voted on who they want to win, which I thought was very interesting because KC and TT voted Sincere and Melanie. Parmida and Kenzie voted for Kayda and Zach.

The only one voting for Bryce and Trinity was Corbin, and then Dylan voted for Carl and Aniya. So I thought that those were interesting votes. Thought it would be more Bryce and Trinity, but I guess not. So that's all I got on Aftersun , but it was a fun episode to watch. So that's all I have for USA.

Dad: I'm done.

Isabella: Okay. You're done. We will briefly discuss the finale on next week's episode, but, yeah, it's just the finale. We all we know. It's dates and and who wins.

So yeah. There was a lot going on on Love Island UK this week.

Dad: In stark contrast to USA, I am not at my limits in UK by any stretch of the imagination. It continues to outperform USA. I don't know because it's going on longer, because the people are better looking, because they're continuing with the drama, but or I like the people better. I don't know what it is, but it's gonna take a lot longer. Maybe that's just because the season has a lot longer to go before I get sick of it.

Isabella: I yeah. I completely agree. Not that I don't love Love Island USA, but for most of the season, Love Island UK has been superior, and I think it's gonna continue that way. I we've got a few weeks left for UK, so we're not over yet. As we saw, we had two new bombshells coming this week.

We we picked up this week post Casa Amor. There was a lot of what's the word I'm looking for? Not backlash, but there was a lot of

Dad: Smoke, a lot

Isabella: of consternation conflict. This yeah. There was still a lot of conflict from Casa Amor. The the smoke hasn't cleared yet, I guess you could say. We so this week kind of started seeing a big we saw a big girls chat with all the Casa girls.

Lorenzo made a comment, power rangers unite, that I thought was funny, But we we kind of saw all the girls make up, so we saw conversations with Jasmine and Charlene, with Angie and Mara, Mika and Martha. They all made up. Now who did not make up is Julia and Lola. They went at it. I guess Lola's issue is that Julia It's Julia.

Got to know. Julia sorry. Sorry. I apologize. It's Julia.

You're completely right. They call her Julia sometimes too, but, yes, you're right. It's Julia. So Julia, I guess, kind of got to know Sean Fitzy, whatever you wanna call him, in Casa Amor, and Lola didn't like that, but that's her job. We didn't even see her talking to him at Casa Amor , so it couldn't have been that big of a deal.

She obviously came back with Lorenzo. I think Lola was pretty defensive and kind of nasty on that chat, and it it gets worse throughout the course of the week. But I think we're seeing that Kavan still wants Jasmine, and Simba definitely still wants Angie I mean, he pretty much dropped Mara right away, which

Dad: Pretty much, but sort of not. It seemed like he was still on the fence until he got called out.

Isabella: Well, I think Mara kind of realized. She pulled him aside and said, you haven't said one word to me since you brought me back. You have kind of ignored me. There were some great, great quotes in this conversation between Mara and Simba. She might be my favorite well, one of my favorite islanders to enter the villa this season.

She just a few of them. There were a lot. She said, you've irritated my entire existence. You're a joke, babe. When he went and slept outside, she jumped in and said, you deserve nothing less.

She just was keeping her foot on his neck the entire time she was there, which I absolutely loved. She's hilarious.

Dad: Yes. She and Angie both have some really good responses, but it it's not hard, I think, because he's so dumb. He just speaks a bunch of words, and it's not like he's paying any attention to what he's saying. And they each one of them will call him out and say, are you mad? Do you even hear what you're saying?

Like, that doesn't even make no damn sense. And it's it's just like, wow. Yeah. That's what people in the audience have been thinking, and they're calling him out on it.

Isabella: Yeah. He's just so irritating.

Dad: And maybe it's not just that he's dumb. They're just very intelligent and very capable of and quick in their responses.

Isabella: Maybe. Yeah. I also just sometimes I'm not sure that he's even hearing what they're trying to say to him. He's just trying to get his point across and not listening.

Dad: Don't see how he can listen because he's constantly interrupting just like I did to you right there. But nonstop, at a minimum, he's like, mhmm. Mhmm. Like, saying like that if you watch this show with with subtitles, it's even more frustrating because they're having to show the subtitles of both of them talking at the same time.

Isabella: Yeah. And he get he also gets so easily pissed off. Like, it doesn't take much to make him angry and make him, like, get up and storm off. We've seen that kind of all season. So he's grafting hard, though.

He really wants Angie. I know I used the word grafting. That's our another British term, but he he really is. So then we go into movie night.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: And I have a lot of things to say about movie night. We saw a lot of good clips. We saw Jasmine and Lorenzo. Their little flirt relationship got exposed. Kavan had a lot to say about that, so did Yasmin.

But I kinda think that's over at this point from what we saw from Jasmine, especially this week. Simba was annoying me. He was telling to his clip, he was saying, like, oh, it takes two to tango.

Dad: So dumb. Talking about Mara. So dumb. They both jumped on him immediately.

Isabella: As they should because Mara is a Casa Amor girl. That is her job. Simba was the only one that had loyalties to someone. I mean, what an idiot. How it's dumb.

So stupid. Yeah. What's also annoying me is Kavan acting like getting Priya to bring back Jordan is equivalent to what he did. I understand it doesn't look good on Jasmine, but it's not the same at all.

Dad: Okay. I I don't think he's saying it's the same, but it there's at least a point to be made. And, okay, she's pointing out he kissed somebody. Right? Okay.

But that happens at Casa Amor. It's not like they said no kissing allowed. They weren't closed off. But then for her to be so duplicitous or scheming that she wants to effectively bring somebody back without bringing someone back, it does seem really, slimy. And and so I I think he's right to call it out.

She should have at least acknowledged it more so than she did, but they treat it like he killed someone, and she just, you know, got caught for speeding.

Isabella: That yeah. That's fair.

Dad: Might be a stretch of my analogy. But

Isabella: I mean, I love Jasmine. I'm usually gonna defend her. Do I think she was scheming? Yes. She was scheming.

I think that, really, the the victim of that situation is Priya. Yes. And I think Priya is the victim in a lot of situations, I really feel for her. The whole Samraj Mika thing got exposed with Samraj saying he has the egg and just all these things. They made up pretty quickly.

Mika and Samraj apologized to Priya, but oh, and then Jordan was also exposed for telling Jasmine that he wasn't attracted to Priya. Yes. That's another thing I didn't love from Jasmine.

Dad: My biggest comment about movie night was what was missing. I was certain that there was gonna be something about Finn at Casa that was going to tick off Ellie. But unless they didn't show it, and I'm pretty sure there must not have been one because I think we would have heard about it, but he got away scot free on that one.

Isabella: He did, but I and I also expected to see a clip from him. I guess maybe they figured it wasn't as important because what he told Ellie is kind of exactly what happened with the, like, kiss on the cheek and then the, oh, she kind of moved over and went in. He said, no. Like, that's not what we're doing. That is pretty much what happened.

Dad: But there were more flirty chats than he probably described.

Isabella: Yeah. And maybe if we would have seen that, then his actions later in the week wouldn't have been so surprising.

Dad: You mean today?

Isabella: But we'll today. Yes. Yeah. But we'll we'll get into that as well. Wrapping up movie night, we also saw Sean and the challenge, the whole thing.

Lola was like, I don't care at all. Like, we're good. We and she said that to the girls in the dressing room too. There was a moment that we saw where she did bring it up to Sean and said, I kind of that did kinda suck to see. Like, I I wish she didn't do that, but whatever.

She moved on very quickly, which is fine.

Dad: I don't think that she did move on. I think that that the part of why she's being so nasty is because it did still bother her. Now, she's focusing all of that nastiness on Julia, but I I still think it's part of why she's just in a generally bad mood now.

Isabella: Yeah. So let's let's get into Lola and Julia then. There's a lot of dog piling on Julia. Why? You saw that in the little game

Dad: they play. On the show. Okay. I thought you meant like

Isabella: Oh, yeah. On the show.

Dad: Okay. Sure.

Isabella: Everything I've seen publicly, which I don't see a lot with UK because I try to avoid spoilers since we're a few days behind. But everything I've seen on social media is dogging on Lola and loving Julia. So that's good to see because I completely agree with that. I think Lola is just nasty and petty. I thought it was so bizarre when she was telling Sean, like, no, you can't talk to him.

We're not gonna talk to her. I'll be so mad if you talk to her. All he wanted to do was make peace.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: I've never I've never seen that before on this show. Usually, they're all very willing to make peace. Or even if they're not gonna be friends, just make it so that they're cordial specifically. The girls and the guys, they usually make up even if they're not gonna be best friends. Lola was like, no.

I don't I don't wanna be friends, and I don't even wanna be cordial with her. It's just petty, and it's weird. And I yeah. She's coming off very badly. We did get a public vote.

I'm hoping that they're gonna get dumped because I'm just over them. I'm over them.

Dad: The it's not just her though because her OG girlfriends are supporting her and acting like, oh, yeah. I would be very mad if someone came after my man even though that's what happens with bombshells. That's what happens with women on Casa Amor.

Isabella: Casa Amor.

Dad: Yes. Like, because someone is were they closed off at that point? Were they boyfriend? I don't know what the terminology was at

Isabella: that point. Closed off.

Dad: But that doesn't mean that they're off limits, and Lola should have at least acknowledged that. And if even if she didn't, some of the others should have given a little more grace to Julia, who, by the way, is my second favorite person on the show. The first, as listeners know, is still Ellie. But Julia, it just, like, makes me laugh too. She is smart as a whip.

She might be the smartest person on there and just dry sense of humor. She does get a little bit emotional, but then she acknowledges it. And she might be one of the best looking ones on there, which is a huge challenge on this show because the women are so universally beautiful. It's very difficult to pick one versus the others, but she's up there. I'm a huge fan.

Isabella: Yeah. I like her too. She came in hot. I didn't love how she acted at the at the very beginning when she came in, but, like, I think she was kind of how do I put it? She wasn't being nasty at all, but she was making little digging jokes at Lola, which maybe set Lola off, but I'm I'm still team Julia through and through.

I think she is completely in the right here.

Dad: I have one other comment. Oh, go ahead.

Isabella: Go ahead.

Dad: That the two brothers, Aiden and Kavan, I I think we refer to them as the hair transplant bros. Now they're just messy bros. It's like they're competing with each other to be the messiest, inconsistent, telling two things to two different people. It's it's like I I don't know where it's gonna stop. Is it genetic?

Is it something about the town they grew up in or both? But, wow, they if I didn't know they were brothers, I would figure it out from their actions.

Isabella: Yeah. Especially Aiden, I think, is I mean, he's telling Kavan even though Kavan clearly still wants Jasmine. Aiden's like, well, don't cut it off with

Charlene. I mean, you still kinda wanna have her. You don't you liked her in Casa.

He just I think he needs to mind his business a lot more. Kavan, what gets me with Kavan is he's 21 years old. I think he's just very immature, and he doesn't really know what he wants. I mean, I think now we see he he wants Jasmine, but it took him a minute to figure that out, and he got, I don't know, I think he is listening to Aiden a little too much, but I I I am hoping that now that Jasmine and Kavan have made up after lots and lots of crying from Jasmine, which made me sad to see because, you know, she is my favorite. So that was hard to see.

They did make up, and then they seem to be fine now. They pretty much told each other they're in love with each other. Not blatantly, but they kinda did.

Dad: Somewhat surprising.

Isabella: I guess. More surprising from her end.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Because I feel like she is just so beyond out of his league. But I guess you like what you like. Right. And whatever. So I do wanna talk about Lorenzo a little bit just because we talked about Julia.

Julia is with Lorenzo. I don't think he's into her very much. I think they they were really cute and Casa Amor. Like, I thought that they were very much similar, but he's got this weird thing where he refuses to make a girl a coffee, and I don't like that at all from him. But he also makes up for it in other ways, like how he was kind of one of the only guys that was defending the girls during movie night.

He was pulling Jasmine aside, just telling her, you know, I'm here for you. Like, I don't wanna see you cry. It makes me really sad. He even teared up at one point. I love Lorenzo.

He's a weird guy. He is a weird guy. I don't think I would wanna date him, but I think he's my favorite out of the guys on the show still.

Dad: Even after the bombshells?

Isabella: You mean the the two brand new bombshells?

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: What did he did I miss something that he did negatively?

Dad: I I I think we're at the point in the in the week where we can talk about two new bombshells. First of all, more bombshells, always good. Alicia and Ethan, and I'm only talking about Alicia, and how Lorenzo was, like, right off the bat, like, are we gonna kiss? Do you wanna and several times in the very short quote date, he referenced or mentioned kissing. And I thought, dude, you're on television.

Come on. Just, like, lay off of it. Maybe one time you could get away with it, but not two or three. And then, by the way, Alicia is amazingly good looking, but your mother kinda ruined it for me because she said, check out her eyebrows. And I don't know if you noticed, they look like caterpillars.

I mean, they're pretty bushy, and I tend not to look there for whatever reason in the face. And now I said, I now you've kind of ruined it for me. But

Isabella: I noticed that immediately too. And I don't even wanna like, I don't like to get on anyone's looks. But, yeah, the eyebrows are a little bit crazy. She's a pretty girl. She's a

Dad: beautiful girl. But Amazing. I'm not saying that it ruins it. Maybe I did just say that. But she's amazing, but now I just can't stop looking

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: Or at them.

Isabella: Yeah. Back to the Lorenzo thing, I I see what you mean. He's he's messy, but I think that goes back to I don't think he likes Julia, like, which is wrong that he's not just being straight up with her, but I think he's still looking for his person. And I think he's gonna need to make that clear with Julia sooner rather than later. So after movie night, we saw a lot of makeups.

We saw Jas and Kavan getting back together, and we saw I think I mentioned Priya, Mika, Samraj. They all made up. Simba decided to oh, Simba made up with Mara as well. Mara told him, I think you're in love with this woman, and he said you might have a point there. Simba decides to go give this public speech to Angie in front of everybody, which I kind of thought was really sweet.

I still don't like him, but I thought it was sweet, but Angie's reaction was kind of hilarious. She just was straight faced the whole time. And then when he pulled her aside afterwards, he asked for a hug, and she was like, I guess you can get a side hug.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I think Angie's gonna go back to him. I think they're gonna end up being together. But I kind of like that she's really making him work for it even after the whole speech. I think he thought that after that speech, he'd have her back like that. But, no, she's still making him work.

Dad: Question. So I I agree that the they're already back together. She's just continuing to give him a little bit of a cold shoulder since UK is going to go on for longer. I'm not sure how many more weeks there are. Do you think that they're going to last the season?

And when I mean last, I mean, assuming they're not voted out, do you think that there's they're gonna stay together, or is he still at risk of doing something stupid again?

Isabella: I think that Simba at this point knows that he messed up. I'm not saying he'll never do it again, but I think he's not gonna do it again on TV.

Dad: Fair.

Isabella: I think they're gonna probably last for the rest of the show if, like you said, if they don't get voted off. I don't think Angie's gonna be going for anybody else either. I think she's kind of Simba or nothing. She's even said that. She's threatened to go home.

So, yeah, I see them being back and staying for as long as they're in the villa. And then I believe the last thing I wanted to talk about was Priya and Aiden and Martha and Jordan, this, like, weird love square that's going on, which kind of came from Priya not really being into Jordan for obvious reasons. He's not into her. And then Aiden not really being into Martha. They recoupled together, Priya and Aiden, but Aiden still wants to get to know Martha.

She eventually shut that down. So now it it really is Martha and Jordan and Priya and Aiden. We'll see. As Of now. Happens there.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: As of now. Yeah. I can't say I saw Priya and Aiden ever getting together, but their little conversation where they're saying they're comfortable and they're just laughing, like, I guess I could see it. I just don't see it lasting.

Dad: Well, especially because Aiden. He's already after the bombshell, Alicia.

Isabella: Exactly. I was just gonna say kiss.

Dad: They were leaning in so close.

Isabella: Oh my god. Aiden's always doing that. Aiden's always trying to get a kiss. So Well,

Dad: she's down for it.

Isabella: He's like Aiden and Corbin are very similar.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So we saw the couples come in like you mentioned. I am worried about Ellie. I am really worried about Ellie. I I've been saying for, I think, a couple weeks, Ellie and Finley are my winners. I don't know anymore.

Yeah. And I'm not even saying Finley's gonna jump ship, but just the way that he's got this interest and Ellie's like, I would have never been interested in someone. It it's not looking good right now, and I think Ellie's gonna be activated next episode.

Dad: I'm gonna make a prediction, and maybe I need odds on this. But based on the preview for the episode that we will see tomorrow, I think Ellie goes home on her own. She just bails with a maybe some fiery multiple syllable, single syllable words on her way out, but she's done. She's gonna walk from that guy.

Isabella: God, I hope not.

Dad: I hope not too.

Isabella: Don't want her I don't want her hurt to embarrass herself either. Like, if it's either gonna be sitting there and watching him crack on with the new girl or leaving, then I would rather her leave.

Dad: I think she's at the furthest end of the spectrum of self respect, Melanie being at one end and Ellie being at the other. She would Ellie would be the first one to say, I'm out. I will leave the show. I don't care. At least that's my belief.

Hopefully, would stick to that.

Isabella: Yeah. I I get that from her too. We'll see. I mean, the they're all young, so we'll we will see.

Dad: Okay. Should we do a speed round for the rest? I can start with

Isabella: I think so. Yeah.

Dad: I don't have dynasty.

Isabella: Go for it.

Dad: Boy, it's lame. Lame AF is what I have in my notes. And I I I will still watch every episode, but I for those who listen to a man of my generation listening to or watching reality TV and questioning, I do have a basic level of dignity, and I think that this might have me at my limits. Like, I I just don't know if I can continue this show. Every time I watch it, I think, oh my gosh.

This is sad. But that's that's the only thing I have.

Isabella: Dang. Well, you're not that doesn't really make me wanna tune in, but Well, that's just how

Dad: messy it is. It's that I don't know. Not that there's a whole lot of redeeming high brow stuff from any of these shows, but you'll have to see to judge for yourself. But that's it. Moving on.

Isabella: Cool. I have something to say about Below Deck Med.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Great episode. I'm not gonna go into detail on what happened for obvious reasons if you watch the episode, but I do think that what was really, really funny about the episode is they have this they have this charter group that really is obsessed with Game of Thrones, and they're going down showing where Cersei did the walk of shame, I guess, where they're all yelling, shame, shame. And the way that production put Luke, like, kind of in that scene in the background and so that it was looked like they're chanting shame shame at him was very, very fitting.

Dad: Very good. It was beyond normal production levels in at least that show.

Isabella: Yeah. So without giving details, Gen and Luke have gotten together. Nathan's bed has been

Dad: Messed up.

Isabella: For lack of better terms, and he hasn't cleaned it. We are going to see that play out on the next episode. Nathan is going to find out. We saw that he finds out, So I am excited to see that. But kind of gross all around episode, but still good.

So

Dad: Yes. We'll leave it there.

Isabella: I think we're gonna see Gen get a little bit crazy because Luke is still clearly interested in Joy. I think they should neither of them should be interested in him. He's disgusting to me. But, yeah, we'll leave it there.

Dad: What do wanna do next?

Isabella: Okay. In the city, this show is not good. This show is not good. I had, like, two notes on it that Kyle ripped his butt open and told everybody on national television, okay. Yeah.

Like, no one That could've been edited out. Yeah. Yeah. And then I do I do love a good argument over bedrooms.

It's just classic housewife stuff. It's petty and stupid and low stakes, but it's usually entertaining. And then Kyle freaking out on Andrea for saying he should have different standards being a married man was crazy too. I think that was, woah. You're getting way defensive here, Kyle.

He didn't say anything bad.

Dad: I only had one note for the show. I thought it was incredibly ironic that Amanda was complaining about Kyle booking multiple DJ gigs without talking to him about it. They're separated. And I'm pretty sure at this time that they were recorded shows.

Isabella: Separated at this point. They were not legally like, they were still trying to work it out at

Dad: this point. Sorry. Separated. I overstated. They were living separately, and she had rented an apartment that has a year lease.

And I think at this time, there's probably a good chance that she was also, I almost said something else, dating West. So the irony seems a little bit thick for me, but that's the only thing I had about that show.

Isabella: Yeah. I think that could be said for kind of the whole season

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Within the city is the irony from Amanda is very thick.

Dad: Yep. How about the valley?

Isabella: The valley, I think the valley and the in the city are kind of one and the same. They're kind of spin off shows that aren't great, but they're kinda trying to keep these people in the loop. I still can't stand Danny. And I think we might feel a little bit differently about this, but I am for sure team like Janet, team Lala. I thought Danny's whole go talk to your husband to La la is so dumb.

So dumb.

Dad: Yeah. That was a little bit He's

Isabella: saying that to the wrong person. Like, she does not care that she's not married. So I don't know. And also him crying over his birthday. Like, you're a grown man.

Stop crying

Dad: over your birthday. He's not really a grown man. He's a Peter pocket, which I thought was one of the best lines. I mean, I don't know what a Peter Pocket is. Your mother speculated it might be the brother of Polly Pocket.

I don't know if this is, like, something that's a generational thing, but if it's like a Ken doll versus a Barbie doll. But the Lala is one of the best looking women on reality television by far. I love the sharp tongue that she will not back down, especially to a Peter pocket. And then I am normally not on the Janet side of things. This side might be too strong.

But I will tell you that in this week's episode where she talked about her prior trauma, I felt more empathy towards her and not only empathy because what she described as having happened in in very broad terms. She didn't go into too much detail. But then she said, maybe I brought my own perspective to that when I got ahold of it. So it almost sounded like she was apologizing or maybe having thought through that her use of the word sexual assault might not have been appropriate in that that situation. And then Lala was also, she kind of gave her a little bit of a hard truth, like, hey, maybe you didn't go about it in the right way.

That made me think more positively about Janet than I had in the past. And then my only other note was it's crystal clear that Nia thinks that her husband has a problem. I mean, it's she's having to step in front of him, tell him to leave. I'm not saying that's never happened to me, but this is on camera. Right?

And it's consistent. So I I can see why at the end of the episode, she was at the end of her rope, not just with him, but she might have her own postpartum thing going on. And so it's it's just a lot.

Isabella: I think yeah. I think regarding Nia and Danny, you can kinda see the internal struggle with her that she wants to defend her husband to all these people, but she's seems to be embarrassed by him at the same time. So I can see the struggle. I feel for her a little bit, but not really. I mean, you made your bed.

Either leave him or or deal with it. I don't know. I don't know. Back to what you said about Janet, I that was a big thing for her to talk about. We're not gonna go deep into it.

We're gonna keep it light on this podcast. But, yeah, major respect for her for telling her story. She's still not my favorite. Like, I get why people are annoyed by her, but she all I'm saying is she grew on me a little bit this season. Like, I don't hate her

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Like I did last season. You know? So there was a there were a couple other things. Michelle, I thought, did a really, really nice job of articulating her emotions to Lacey, and Lacey really accepted it well

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: And kind of brought it back to Jesse and said, like, listen. She kind of opened up to me, and Jesse's all pissed. But I I really appreciated that from Lacey. I thought it was nice. Very girl's girl of her.

So and then the Kristen Luke thing. Jesse going and telling Kristen that Luke said that comment of, oh, I wouldn't wanna get married if it stays like this. Messy, Jesse. Messy Jesse. So and then I guess Kristen and Luke did kinda talk about it, and Luke kinda doubled down.

So we'll see how that goes between them. I think it's gonna get better. Obviously, Kristen is dealing with a lot postpartum, which is completely understandable. I hope they'll figure it out. I don't know.

We'll see.

Dad: His hair has changed dramatically in his confessionals.

Isabella: It's like He's got, like, a tail. It's it's like a tail.

Dad: And, like, bushy. I don't know what's going on there. Maybe it's Yeah.

Isabella: Sort of alley thing. I agree. Yeah. I've for sure noticed that too. Okay.

I think the last thing we got is NextGen NYC.

Dad: Yes. I'll start. There's one moment where they compared the mothers, Brooke Shields and Kim Zolciak, as if it was the same thing. And, yes, production did do a a side by side showing the two pictures, but this might be something your generation isn't aware of. Brooke Shields was a big deal.

Like, at one point, considered the most beautiful woman in the world or at least, you know, hyped up that way. And this is a famous movie. Her, she was very young. It was our a little bit controversial. Blue Lagoon.

But Mhmm. Brooke Shields is is the shit. Right? Kim Zolciak, not quite so much.

Isabella: Well, I mean, we love Kim Zolciak.

Dad: I'm saying

Isabella: yes. I I'm making a yeah. Yeah. I completely understand what you're saying. I know Brooke Shields is a big deal.

I know she's a huge deal. She maybe is a little bit before my time, but I I know who she is. I did think it was funny that Gia was trying to tell her boyfriend who that is and saying, you know Hannah Montana's mom? That was so funny because that that makes sense to me. Like, I that tracks to me.

So

Dad: We were watching it. I don't know if we were paying it to your mother and I were watching it. And then she turned to me, she's like, wait. What'd she say? Did she say that that's Hannah she's not Hannah Montana's mother.

I said

Isabella: She well No. Hannah Montana on Hannah Montana. Yes. Oh. Brooke Shields absolutely was.

She played Hannah's mother.

Dad: Oh, gosh. I didn't know that

Isabella: she fell that far. Lot. Now Okay. Yeah. Hannah Montana's mother didn't it was like a guest appearance a few times.

Dad: Okay. I wasn't paying attention. I thought that she was spaced out and, like, confusing her with somebody else. So she at least No. There's some basis for her to

Isabella: think because Yeah. Because she was.

Dad: Well

Isabella: She was Hannah Montana's mother.

Dad: Right. The character. Yes.

Isabella: So

Dad: The only other thing I had was Riley, which is a little bit shocking to me, is coming across as a mean girl. And maybe it's just selective editing or they caught her on a night where she'd had too much to drink. It happens to the best of us. But I I didn't see that coming. At least, I could see that coming between her and Georgia, but not her and Ava.

That was a little bit surprising.

Isabella: Yeah. I think we're gonna see that play out more next episode because I think we saw an episode where Ava had an issue with Gia, and they kind of made up pretty quickly even though I don't think those two really like each other that much. I am reserving my judgment for that because I do love Riley. I love that she stays on Georgia's neck about the handwashing thing. I love it.

I love that that's still a conversation because what? And and, oh, Georgia's saying acting like, oh, our generation doesn't really like to clean our hand. No. That's not true. That's just you.

That is just you, Georgia.

Dad: When she said that, I don't think that she was necessarily speaking about washing hands even though I know that's how this evolved. I think she was just saying more broadly, we don't like to clean, which is probably also not true. I also thought that her and whatever her buddy's name was talking about coming up with a line of cleaning products reminded me of She by Sheree. And what was the one from Rahoney where What's Your Face was gonna make an oven?

Isabella: Oh, Sonja. Yes. n sincereSonja's toaster oven. Yes.

Dad: Yes. I I think that this is completely fake or I hope it's fake because otherwise, they're gonna lose their shirts. Like, that that's just yuck is the name. I mean, I could see it showing up on your Instagram feed, but they the goal was to be selling by Summer. I haven't seen anything on my feed, but maybe I just have the wrong algorithm.

Isabella: No. Yeah. I don't think it's gonna work for her. But the one thing I do defend Georgia on is when Amira told her to, like, go into business with Charlie and her ex boyfriend, I would have been like, excuse me? Why would you suggest that to me?

That's the last thing I would ever wanna do.

Dad: Fair. But I think that Georgia is saying, I've talked to my lawyer, and we're talking about getting compensated for my creative idea. That's not a thing. Right? You that doesn't work.

You can't claim, oh, you stole my idea, unless it has some sort of intellectual property protection, which that idea doesn't. So she should either just do it on her own or come up with something. Maybe what maybe what Amira was saying was go into business of figuring a way to not necessarily work side by side, but figure out a way to go into business together so you at least get something because she's not gonna get paid by them otherwise.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, I'm excited for the rest of the season for that. More excited than I am for, like, the valley and and the city.

Dad: Well, the valley's almost over, where there's only one more episode.

Isabella: I'm pretty sure in the city, the finale is next week.

Dad: I think that's right.

Isabella: Yeah. The vet or the valley might have more episodes, but in the city is about to end.

Dad: That's that's what I was thinking of. Misspoke.

Isabella: Okay. Well, Yeah. I get those two mixed up all the time. So, like, I even wrote in my notes in the city, and I had to cross it out and write the valley because yeah. Well, I, don't have any images for you to guess who the housewives are.

So I think we're gonna probably start diving in a little bit deeper to some of these Bravo shows, especially with Love Island USA ending. We obviously have UK still, but we'll have a little bit more time for maybe a game or two and to dive a little deeper. So I'm looking forward to that.

Dad: Me too. Okay.

Isabella: And as usual, like, comment, subscribe, share with your friends.

Dad: Send us ideas.

Isabella: Yes. Send us ideas, new shows.

Dad: And constructive feedback. If we're focusing too much on something or not enough on something, let us know.

Isabella: Yeah. If you want dad to talk more, if you want me to talk less,

Dad: alleyor dad to talk less.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. We're always open to talk and to feedback. Thanks for hanging out with us. We will see you next week.

Dad: Thanks.

Isabella: That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

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Dad: And tell a friend who'd get it.

Isabella: See you next week.

“A kiss is like a handshake'“

Casa Amor takes both villas. The UK dives in as the USA aftermath detonates on movie night, and Melanie draws a line: "I'd rather you respect me than pick me."

On Love Island UK, Casa Amor recouples with new faces on both sides. Kavan brings back Charlene, Simba brings back Mara, and Simba draws fire as a new contender for worst boy of the season. On the USA side, movie night surfaces what actually happened in Casa: Sincere's parade of beloveds, the girls' least-compatible vote, and Melanie's pep talk to Anaya that lands as one of the season's standout moments.

Beyond the islands: the Real Housewives of Rhode Island reunion goes two rounds, with Rulla exposed, Jo Ellen digging in, and Brian the foot doctor unmasked at the reunion couch. Real Housewives of Atlanta heads to Scotland, Below Deck Med hosts its worst charter guest yet, and The Valley, In the City, and Next Gen NYC, plus a Brielle Biermann sighting, round out the week.

Isabella: Hi. I'm Isabella. My dad is obsessed with reality television, maybe even more so than I am.

Dad: She's not wrong.

Isabella: This is Check Me Boomer, a father daughter weekly dish on the latest reality TV. Welcome back.

Dad: Welcome.

Isabella: This is Check Me Boomer. This is our episode five.

Dad: Happy belated Independence Day for The US listeners. And while we're at it, a quick shout out to the Irish audience. We've had quite a bit of downloads from Ireland, so thank you.

Isabella: Yes. Shout out. I don't know if maybe you're loving our Love Island UK takes. Keep it up.

Dad: Not a single download from The UK. So

Isabella: Maybe they hate our UK takes.

Dad: Could be.

Isabella: So first, a little bit of context here. I wanna I do wanna say we are on vacation right now visiting some families. So if there's a little bit of audio difference, that could be the reason. This is not our normal setup. We'll back to we'll be back to normal next week.

Also, socials as well if we're a little bit less active on air. That's might be why.

Dad: What do you wanna cover today?

Isabella: I think definitely Love Island USA, UK, and then I believe we also have Rhode Island, Atlanta, Below Deck Med in the city, The Valley, NextGen NYC. Should we start with UK?

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: One more thing before we start, I do wanna say we're we're expanding our socials, so follow us on YouTube, on TikTok, Instagram, and threads. That's all. So we can get into you to The UK. This week started with them ending that Villa receipts and public tea game. I think my takeaways from that is that they a lot of people are saying Sean and Lola are scammers.

I don't know about that. Simba got all mad that he's about the doghouse comment, but that's kind of in the past now. I think the big thing is Casa We've reached Casa Amor in UK.

Dad: Well, and as of today, it's over.

Isabella: It is over. So we the late the last episode we watched was the Sunday episode on Hulu, which was the episode following the Casa Amor re coupling. So I think that maybe we can go through each couple, but I do want to give context that right before Casa Amor, Kavan and Jasmine decided to take a step back. So I guess they're technically on a break, which I don't even know if that's really happened before on this show. I don't know how that works, but I guess it worked for Casa.

So and then also, Jasmine closed the door on Aiden, which she seemed to be reconsidering for a moment, but, yeah, that's not a thing anymore at all.

Dad: Right. And because we have audience outside The US, this is the most recent episode. It aired in The UK on July 2 and today in The United States on July 5, and it's episode 36.

Isabella: Mhmm. Yeah. So I think it might be a good idea if we kind of go over the re coupling, and then we can go a little bit backwards on each of the couples.

Dad: Great.

Isabella: So we started with Priya. Priya ended up picking Jordan. Now, is interesting because Jordan is very clearly into Jasmine, and I don't think Jasmine's really into Jordan. She's saying that he's his type, but she obviously misses Kavan.

Dad: Jordan is the very tall guy with short braids, reminds me of Squidward.

Isabella: That's one way to put it. No shade though. No shade.

Dad: No, in a positive way.

Isabella: Yeah, we love Squidward. Yeah, Priya picked Jordan and there was also talk between Jasmine and Priya of Jasmine saying, hey, I think it would be a great idea of you to bring back Jordan for you and for me. I think this has happened before and it it never ends well. It never does. So we'll see how that plays out.

Dad: I love her keeping her options open and getting a little help from her friend potentially.

Isabella: Yeah. I just I don't I really don't think it's gonna end well for Priya because it's clear that Jordan likes Jasmine more. So if Jasmine's open to that, Priya's kind of left alone.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Then we had Aiden and Martha. They're cute. I don't have anything to say about them, though. Yeah. I did like, though, back to the well, we'll get to Kavan, but Aiden was jumping in defending Kavan when Kavan brought back Charlene, which we'll get into.

And one of my favorite moments of the episode was when Maya Jama jumps in and says basically tells Aiden to shut up. Says, Let's let these two talk it out. And then she does ask Kavan, Did you kiss the girl outside of challenges? Because he was saying, No, no, no. Let's keep that between us.

We'll have a private conversation. Maya was not having that. So that was funny. But Aiden and Martha seem cute. She's pretty.

And then we had Mika and Samraj, which came back to each other. They were originally together and they came back single, so that's cute.

Dad: He's a little bit in the doghouse though.

Isabella: He is a little bit in the doghouse. Now I do give him credit for pulling Mika aside immediately and telling her all that happened, that he cuddled a girl in bed and he also kissed Martha, I believe it was. Mika cried, she was upset, but she also said it's not over. So I think she's just upset and she's gonna get over it. I think Samraj really does like her, so I think they'll be okay.

Dad: I don't understand why people get so mad. Unless you decide before Casa that you're not going to kiss outside the challenge, then it seems like they hold people to a higher standard when they're away than when they're in front of people.

Isabella: That's a good point. I I think that in my mind, Samraj didn't do that bad there. I mean, I I get Mika doesn't like it, but that's kind of what Casa Amor is for. At the end of the day, he didn't come back with anyone. He chose Mika.

I think that's what's most important. Then we had Yasmin and Lorenzo, who they each brought back their own people. Yasmin had Tommy, who Yasmin is already clearly way more into Tommy than she was with Lorenzo. I think that's more her speed, more her type. I think he's treating her the way she wants to be treated.

He's not as nonchalant as Lorenzo. And to the other side, I think Lorenzo found someone that fits him as well. I mean, we saw him laughing more than he's ever laughed at this girl, Julia, and I think she's hilarious too.

Dad: Julia.

Isabella: Julia, yes, sorry. Apologies.

Dad: Who, by the way, is great. I think she's funny. She's incredibly smart. I like her deadpan dry humor. And I don't think she's gonna put up with shit.

Isabella: Yeah. I like her a lot too. I do think that I like how she was giving him a little bit of a hard time at the beginning. I think he really likes that. And I will say though that Yasmin and Lorenzo did have a conversation on this last episode.

Lorenzo seemed a little bit more interested in keeping it going with Yasmin, and Yasmin kind of shut that down already. She was like, I mean, we both brought someone back, so I kind of think this is over, right?

Dad: She could change her mind. It's early days.

Isabella: So that's the thing about Casa Amor is they always come back, and even if both part of the couple brings back others, it's so often that they end up back together. And these costs and more people just get thrown aside. So we'll see. I think that Yasmin and Tommy and Lorenzo and Julia are better suited, But we'll see, we don't know. Of course, Lola and Sean came back to each other.

I think Sean was not super honest about how he was acting in that challenge. She said, Oh, I didn't really kiss her that much. Like, I kind of kept that limited. That's not what we saw.

Dad: I I don't think it was as bad as you're making it out to be. It's yes. He he's not explaining it exactly, but I don't think it's maliciously or him trying to downplay it. It's just it was the heat of the moment. It was a challenge, and he's summarizing it.

Everyone knows it's gonna all show up on movie night.

Isabella: Yeah. I think that's my point. I'm not saying that he is purposefully hiding anything. Maybe he really feels that he did take it easy. I don't feel that he did, but it is gonna be a problem at movie night.

I I don't think it's gonna break them up at all, but I think Lola's gonna be upset seeing Yes.

Dad: She'll be cross.

Isabella: Cross? Yes. I don't know if I've heard that one. What does that mean?

Dad: It's probably a little bit on the British side, but

Isabella: I assume that means irritated?

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Okay. Then we had Kavan bring back Charlene, who they kind of were indicating is kind of famous in Ireland. We'll have to have our Irish Irish listeners get back to us on that because I guess she's an influencer, very well known, but they seem cute together. I am always gonna be team Jasmine, but I do have to admit I see the connection between Kavan and Charlene. So it sucks for Jasmine.

Jasmine is single. She did not bring anybody back and that's my girl. So I feel for her but I like how she still stood up for herself and she didn't cry. I just think she has a good head on her shoulders. I do think there's still a chance for Kavan and Jasmine, but that could go either way,

Dad: I

Isabella: don't So, Kavan and Jasmine did have a conversation, and Kavan was like, This doesn't mean it's over between us. And Jasmine said, Well, that's not really on you to decide. I mean, Charlene's over there crying, which I don't know why. I mean, I I don't think anybody was nasty to her.

Dad: Well, sometimes you can get a look from someone and know that they're not happy, and so maybe that's what she got from Jasmine.

Isabella: I get it. But what are you what are you expecting? Are you expecting Jasmine to be thrilled?

Dad: I'll get over

Isabella: it. Yeah. So then we have Ellie, and I was scared of this one because I saw a spoiler online about something about Ellie's foundation after crying, like her tears running down her face. So I'm seeing that thinking, Oh gosh, Finley is bringing a girl back. No, he didn't.

She was crying happy tears. So that was sweet and I think these two you might agree with me because you love Ellie, these two might be my winners.

Dad: They could be. And on Ellie, I think that after the show's over, she should record her voice as a celebrity voice over for Waze or Apple Maps to give directions. Wow. Sort like Snoop Snoop Dogg did at one point. I did look up.

You can pick in Apple various voices for Siri, which is what you use for Apple Maps. And you can get certain accents, but there is no Scottish option. Irish, English, no Scottish.

Isabella: Guess you'll have to contact FYI. Guess you'll have to contact Apple then. So they're cute. Ellie did find out that Finley kissed the girl outside of the challenge, but we saw that kiss. I don't think he wanted it.

She kind of kissed him on the cheek and then kissed him on the lips. He, I don't think, really wanted it that much, but we'll see that at movie night. Ellie might kick off, she might not. I think it could go either way. But they are really really cute together.

Anything else on them?

Dad: No. Did you cover Simba already?

Isabella: Oh, we're getting there. Okay. So then then it's time for Angie and Simba. Of course, Angie stays single. Simba I thought Simba was coming in single because on the previous episode that we had seen the night before, he was telling all the boys that he feels guilty.

He's thinking about Angie, and he doesn't want to kiss this girl anymore. So I'm thinking, okay, he's coming back single. No. He brings back Mara. For what?

I don't know. Cause he does seem very torn up that Angie is upset. Then why did you bring her? I just don't understand it. So I think Angie held it together pretty well.

And then when she was all with her girls, she kind of broke down, which is expected. I love how all her friends stood up for her. I mean, Mika, especially. I guess Simba came over to try and grab Angie for a chat. Mika and Jasmine and one other girl was there, and they all said, Just go.

Bye. Just go away. Just go Like, they're all yelling at him to just get out of here.

Dad: And you can't see this, but Isabella's making hand flips as gestures, which is what happened on the show. Very dismissive, like, move away, get away fly.

Isabella: Yep. Like swatting out a fly. So I love how they're treating him. He absolutely deserves it. Speaking of Angie, she did have options in Casa Amor.

She was never interested in them, but she had multiple she had two guys that were interested in her, and I thought this was funny that they both said the same, I guess, term in whatever the language is in Zimbabwe. They both told her this Wakanaka term.

Dad: I missed that.

Isabella: Well, I just thought it was bizarre that they it was Carlos and Aaron? Question mark? Don't ask me. Two guys in Casa both said the same exact term to Angie, and I thought that was a little bizarre. But she had there were people interested in her.

She just was never interested. Same with Jasmine, same with Mika. They were never gonna get to know these Casa boys. And for the record, the Casa boys were not that cute. I think the Casa girls were way better looking, and this is a consistent problem on UK, but whatever.

Dad: I agree.

Isabella: Yeah. I did think the Casa girls seemed cool. Initially, they were turning down kisses, they were standing up for themselves, weren't just throwing themselves at these men. And I did like how they handled that little selfies challenge. I thought that was cute.

Not for the OG girls, of

Dad: course. Right.

Isabella: But I thought they handled that well. I thought it was interesting. Simba was even in a love triangle in Cosa Amor.

Dad: Yes. And how do you pronounce that woman's name? Nivea?

Isabella: Nivea, I believe.

Dad: She was awesome.

Isabella: I wish she would have taken her back, because she was hilarious. It killed me when she she started laughing in his face when she when she was trying to end it with him.

Dad: Wait. She had already ended it?

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I guess so. She it was the conversation where she's ending it. And she starts laughing in his face, and he gets so upset, but it was so funny.

Dad: Yes. He said, I'm not 12 years old. I'm 25. And she said, are you sure?

Isabella: Yeah, that was good. That was funny. We did get a little bit of tea from her because of course Maya brings in the girls that were not chosen. So that's how Angie found out that he wasn't just talking to one girl, he talking to multiple girls.

Dad: Sharing beds with two girls. Mhmm.

Isabella: Kissed both of them.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So, yeah, I really feel for Angie. I think Simba is one of the worst characters we've seen in a while.

Dad: Right up there with Sincere, you were saying.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't know who's I don't know which one's worse. I do I think it might be Simba. Because at least Sincere keeps his cool, you know? I think Simba has some anger.

Dad: I think that they both struggle with actually knowing what's going on in their own heads. Right? I I don't know that they're malicious because we've seen people who move, as you say, much more in a Machiavellian way calculated. I think these guys just kinda stumble through, make dumb decisions, not really thinking about anything. I'm not trying to give them a pass.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: It's just that I don't see them as being as cold as maybe some of the women are.

Isabella: Yeah. I agree. I don't think that they're going in with the intention of hurting these girls. Right. But I do think they're complete idiots and these girls deserve way, way, way better than them and they need to grow up.

Dad: And I guess it doesn't matter. The result is the same. Whether they're what their intentions are or not, the person receiving it is still hurt Correct. Equally.

Isabella: Yeah. And we'll get into USA shortly because I have stuff to say about Melody and Sincere. Oh, what I did not like to see though is the Casa girls, Julia specifically, who I like, I don't like how she's speaking about Jasmine. She was kind of indicating that, oh, well Jasmine kind of deserves this. I don't like that at all.

We'll see how that plays out. I think usually the Casa girls come in and there's a little bit of awkwardness. And then they kind of figure it out pretty quickly. The girls use I bet I bet next episode these girls are gonna all have a conversation saying, hey, there's nothing against you. It's not you.

We think you're lovely girls. I I guarantee it's gonna happen.

Dad: Right. Sorry about yesterday. Emotions were high. We don't have anything against you. It's these boys.

Isabella: But I do wonder if that comment is gonna come out in movie night.

Dad: Could be.

Isabella: Yeah. Similar to how the Casa Girls comments came out in movie night on USA. Oh, one more thing, Unseen Bits' MVP this week, Lola and Sean. We don't see them enough on the show. They were so funny on Unseen Bits.

They're just telling the stupidest stories all the time. They're playing these dumb games with each other. He set like a picnic for her. It's cute. They do seem cute.

We don't see them enough. So they're my MVPs of unseen bits.

Dad: Never And then

Isabella: I know. You're like, okay, cool. So I think we can move on to USA now. Okay. USA this week, we picked up right after the Casa Amor re coupling, and it kind of goes into this pep talk from Melanie to Anaya, which I thought was incredible.

It was one of my favorite parts of the season. Generally, one of my favorite things about this show is watching the female friendships. And so it was really nice to see Amanda basically or not Amanda, I don't know where Melanie screaming at Anaya, saying, Girl, he's a child. You're better than him. She just said so many great things.

Dad: Okay. Let me push back. How can she say such good things, but she can't even take her own advice?

Isabella: I think a lot of people do that. I think a lot of people are able to give advice to others and not take their own. Don't think that takes away from what everything she was saying to Anaya was right, and I think it was what Anaya needed to hear.

Dad: I think they're both gonna take those men back. Both of them.

Isabella: Anaya? Oh, KC does not want Anaya.

Dad: That doesn't mean it's over.

Isabella: Yeah, I've seen a little bit of discussion on that, but I think Anaya's not going back to him. I think Anaya's moved on. I could see KC being interested still, but I think Anaya's done with that. Now, Melanie on the other hand, she was torn up once she saw movie night, which if I haven't mentioned already, movie night was the big thing that happened this week. So Melanie was able to see how Sincere was moving and Cosa Amor, how he was calling everyone beloved, beloved.

We saw all the details of the soul and sincere connection to, so I think it was just a lot on Melanie. Now what I was annoyed about is it did not show Sincere's comment where he was saying he forgot what Melanie looked like. That was not included. Or if it was, we didn't see that part.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I think that that would have been even more hurtful if Melanie heard that. She would have been like, You forgot about me? So you can't like me that much if you forgot about me that quick.

Dad: Well, would have been right up there with when he said, If there had been more time, you would have been the one.

Isabella: Oh my god. Yeah. He also has acknowledged that he only tells half truth truths. I don't know why he thinks that's okay. He's basically admitting that he is a liar.

He's taking his lashings, but I still don't think Melanie should get back with him. Obviously, they're toxic together. Mostly from him. But yeah, just toxic. What I have an issue with is how the OG girls are telling her what to do, and they're jumping around saying, Team Sincere.

We love Sincere. You should get back with Sincere. That is genuinely pissing me off. Like, it's it's they have all fallen down my rankings because of this.

Dad: It's so inconsistent and hypocritical, especially given that sincere is worse than KC probably.

Isabella: Yeah. And given what I was just talking about, about Melanie's pep talk to Anaya. Right. Anaya can't do the same thing. Right.

She's like, No, I love Sincere. Even though Sincere's talking smack about Anaya at Casa Amor, telling Kayda or telling all the girls, Oh, KC's way happier now. So you think that Melanie's

definitely getting back with Sincere. I'm leaning that way too, but I wonder if these girls were

telling her, Oh my gosh, you cannot go back to him. It's toxic.

You need to leave that man. I do think she would maybe listen.

Dad: Maybe.

Isabella: The reason I say this is because we'll get into this, but we had a re coupling and a dumping and they had to vote on who is least compatible. Corbin and Parmida voted Melanie and Sincere Least Compatible and Parmida made a comment of, If this man really likes you, he would be treating you this way. Right. Stuff like that. So Melanie responded, Oh, that's like what a good friend would say to me.

Which I didn't really clock it at the moment but then later on I saw people bringing that up on social media saying was this kind of a dig on the OG girls that she maybe wishes that they would say those things and she's only hearing it from Parmida of all people.

Dad: Could be.

Isabella: Could be. So I don't like that at all from the OG girls. I do like it a lot from Parmida though. Parmida's growing on me and actually Corbin's growing on me too. Believe it Believe or not.

Because Corbin was pissed at Sincere. Corbin was mad because Sincere lied to all of them too.

Dad: He should be happy because it's making him look better.

Isabella: It is. But also I like how you know most of these boys just could not care less. Corbin seems to care that he's lied like this to Melanie. Right. Or maybe Corbin just has a soft spot for Melanie.

I don't know.

Dad: That could be.

Isabella: But they're growing on me a lot. They're closed off, by the way, which no one seemed to care about.

Dad: No. It was a none of it.

Isabella: Oh, back to sincere. I can't not mention the alright big dog to Amora. And maybe I should also mention, we're jumping around here, I apologize if it's hard to follow. Amora and Carl from Casa Amor got voted back into the villa by America. So Amora of course was the one who was talking to Sincere, Carl was the one who was talking to Anaya.

Seems as though Karl and Anaya have kind of rekindled, and then Amora was kind of talking to Gal?

Dad: Oh yeah.

Isabella: But spoiler alert, Amora and Gal got dumped.

Dad: Okay, maybe this is where I jump in with some of my random comments. Gal looks like a seventies porn star. Like, he should be in the movie Boogie Nights. It's probably something you've never heard of. Melanie, I don't know if it's her personality, but her voice is really starting to grate on me.

Like the whining, there's something about the timber of her voice when she's whining. It's just stuck in my craw. I'm I'm struggling. And then as much as the games suck every week, this week they reached a new high or a new low. The Hot Girl Bakery may be the dumbest game in the history of the franchise.

Isabella: So bad. I have a note on that as well. I don't know who came up with the cakes challenge, where it's basically musical chairs, but you have to sit on cakes. What was the point of that? Right.

We didn't get like, I thought maybe, Oh, whoever was out, maybe they'd have a question to answer. No. No. Nothing like that. Big waste of time.

Dad: And think of the time that they had to spend to make cakes. Someone had to make cakes.

Isabella: Someone had to make the cakes, and they were all sitting on them, and that's gross. Mean, that's gross.

Dad: I didn't know if I was just missing something, if this was a boomer thing, that the cakes had something to do with Megan Thee Stallion, that there was some sort of inside joke about her because otherwise, they sort of wasted her appearance. She was just like the host for a dumb game.

Isabella: Mean, I don't really know what else she would have done.

Dad: She didn't sing, though?

Isabella: She didn't last season either. She's just a a guest.

Dad: Well, that's sort of a waste. Right?

Isabella: I don't know. I think she is an interesting character. Like she's fun. She likes to talk to the she does watch the show. Like I like how she goes in and talks to the girls.

She was kinda dogging on some of the boys. She did tell KC he's disrespectful. And I liked that. I do wanna go back to really quick, I wanna go back to the re coupling after Casa Amor . And remember how we said that, Oh, there's kind of a conspiracy that Melanie and Kenzie were removed from the fire pit?

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: I think that may be true. Because that next episode, I was really analyzing what all the girls were saying. Kayda made a comment saying like, oh, if Zach came back with a girl, I would have acted how Melanie was acting. And I'm thinking, Melanie didn't act that crazy, so what are what are you talking about? Kenzie said, I've never actually yelled at anyone.

We didn't see Kenzie yelling. So Kenzie yelled at some point and we didn't see it.

Dad: Wow. This is pretty sanitized. I mean, come on. We could see a little bit more of this. It doesn't need to be actually Bad Girls Club, but you could show them being held back.

That would be okay.

Isabella: Well, Especially like we've talked about before, they've got to show us all this toe sucking and raunchiness. The least they can do They're is definitely

Dad: cutting some of it out.

Isabella: They are cutting some of it, yeah. But I do think if they can show us all that, it's not like there was fist fighting. Mean, you can show a couple girls yelling each other, it's not the end of the world.

Dad: Maybe we should start a petition.

Isabella: Maybe we should. Speaking of petitions, I went a little bit viral on We went a little bit viral on threads this week because I found out that people there are men not people, it's men writing petitions to get Anaya removed from the show for harassment. Meanwhile Anaya and KC are fine now. KC was pretty ashamed of his actions, I think, in Casa Once KC saw his own actions in Casa Amor, you can tell on his face he's pretty ashamed of himself. So he did go apologize to Anaya right after that.

That doesn't mean they didn't still have a big kind of blow up fight in movie night. They made up afterwards. Anaya even apologized for kind of standing up and getting maybe a little bit I wouldn't say aggressive, but just loud and getting a little bit closer. They both apologized, and they seemed to be okay. But we have people out here writing petitions to get Anaya removed still, so it's just we've lost the plot.

It's a TV show.

Dad: Yeah, go

Isabella: outside It's not that serious. Yeah, go touch grass is what they would say. Let's talk about the Jen, Gal, Kenzie, Dylan, love square. I think it's kind of clear after Casa Amor, after the recoupling, that Gal isn't really into Jen, Gal wants to get to know Kenzie. Kenzie wants to get to know Gal.

Meanwhile, Kenzie is with Dylan. So Kenzie and Gal end up having a kiss kind of after Gal and Jen break it off. I thought Gal was a little bit of a coward in the breakup with Jen. He kind of was just trying to find anything to blame it on. Right.

But I think after Gal and Kenzie had the kiss, she supposedly decided that she liked Dylan more, and Gal also kinda said he wasn't really into that. So Dylan was upset, as he should be, but they're fine now, they seem to be fine. What I did like though is Jen. Jen called out Kenzie and said, Listen, if this was not Love Island, I would not be friends with you. You're kinda moving crazy.

Dad: Right. And Kenzie, it looks like no one had ever given her a hard truth before. She just looked again like she smelled a fart and, Oh, I'm really hurt by that. She didn't really take it very well.

Isabella: No, she didn't. Kenzie, you're hurt by that? How do you think Jen feels? I mean, you were supposed to be best friends in here. I guess they ended up making up.

And another spoiler alert, Jen was also dumped, which sucks, because she was really, really growing on me towards the end. But I think it was her time also. And then Gal, I guess, decided to start getting to know Amora. They coupled up and were also dumped. So who we had dumped this week was Jen as a single, Gal and Amora, Jaden and Caleb.

I don't have much to say on Jaden and Caleb, but Boring. So boring. They did have a little bit of an argument where he wants more affection, she wants to know more about him. I see both sides to that. I think if he's not saying anything about himself, then why would she want to be affectionate?

And then I kind of vice versa. He's like, Well, if she doesn't like me, why am I gonna tell her about my life?

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I see both sides there. They ended up being dumped, which I think it was time for them to. We didn't ever see anything from them.

Dad: Maybe their love languages didn't match.

Isabella: I think that's exactly what it was. Like, I'm not even being funny. It seems like that is kind of what it was. He wanted more physical touch.

Dad: Junk.

Isabella: Okay. The I have a couple other comments on movie night.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: So I guess we we saw the all of everything from KC. That's all since been resolved. Kayda was able to deduce that the girl with the angel wings from the challenge was gone, who Zach was getting to know. There was a little bit of a blip there with them of Kayda saying, Why wouldn't you tell me that that girl left? Like, would you have picked her if she was still there?

They ended up making up, but I have some things to say about Zach. I do. Go ahead. I'm curious to know what your opinion of Zach is.

Dad: You mean, is he straight or gay? Is that

Isabella: Just generally. But I guess

Dad: I I don't have a whole lot to say about him. I think, yeah, he's I'm neutral.

Isabella: I think he's a snake.

Dad: Really?

Isabella: Yeah. So one thing about movie night that I was kinda pissed about is they didn't show the clip of Zach from early in the season. When Zach's kind of talking badly about Trinity, he's telling Bryce, I don't really think Trinity is the girl for you, I think you have a lot more fun when it's just you, me, and Kayda. And now, I mean, they seem to be cool because Trinity and Bryce of course went on a date, they're now boyfriend girlfriend. Trinity's even joking around with Zach, like Zach I stole your man and I I think they're all jokey jokey fun, but Trinity has no idea what this man said behind her back and that really is bothering me.

And the other reason I think Zach's a snake, the way he speaks to Kayda sometimes, I feel like it's extremely manipulative and I have one example of this, they're laying in bed and he says, Love you. Then he says, Just joking. He says that the next day too, like, Oh, love you, just kidding. And then the re coupling he's like, I love you. Or like, something about I love you, your eyes.

Like he's just playing with her feel like he's playing around with that, and I don't like that at all. I think it's very manipulative, and I don't think Kayda's gonna leave him at Kayda's locked in. I mean, I think he could do anything at this point and she won't leave him.

Dad: Right. I don't know. Maybe it's kinda like some of the guys we were talking about on The UK. He's not really thinking it through, but the result is the same. It's putting her in a position where she could be hurt more easily.

Isabella: Yeah. I do wonder if they're eventually probably gonna do a family day where they either bring in the families or they FaceTime them. I'm wondering how what Kayda's family is gonna feel.

Dad: Oh, yeah. That's a good point.

Isabella: To that point, I think if Melanie and Sincere do get back together, that family day is gonna be something for Melanie.

Dad: Who knows? We've seen family days where people, you know, they just support the kid and they're not really as aggressive about the other person as anticipated.

Isabella: Yeah. I guess it depends on who your parents parents are. I think if I were on the show and it were you and mom coming on, you'd be very clear with me how you felt about that meeting.

Dad: Right. Right.

Isabella: I think mom especially. Mom never sugarcoats things. No. Big quote that Melanie kept saying over and over again though is I'd rather you respect me than pick me. Because all these other islanders are like, well, he picked you still.

She's like, I don't care about that. I'd rather him respect me. And I like that. Of course, it's not gonna matter if she goes back to him. It's all just words.

That Well,

Dad: she's telegraphing. She's saying, when are you going to fix this? That's pretty clear that it's not over.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. But I I do I wanna give her a little bit of credit for not going back right away. I think we've seen girls on this show that these guys can do whatever they want, and they'll come back.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So this week we ended with a dumping, as I previously mentioned. They all had to vote on who is least compatible. They had to provide two answers to everyone's faces. I think we saw a little bit of a Kenzie and Melanie tiff. Yep.

So we're gonna see how that plays out. That's how it ended. So Sunday night tonight, we'll see how that picks up. I must say I missed after sun today, so I can't share with you any after sun details, but I think it's okay. And really, that's all I got for USA.

Dad: Okay. Let's move on. What do you want to cover next?

Isabella: Okay. I think we can start with Atlanta. I don't have much to say either, but I believe they're in Scotland They right are I mean, Angela and Shamea are just going back and forth. Angela is saying Shamea slept with some George crashed to cash, some insurance guy. But then we find out that she completely made it up.

Dad: Who knows?

Isabella: I mean, because guess Angela's friend and neighbor confirmed it to Shamea, or maybe it's Shamea's neighbor, I don't know whose neighbor. But one of the friends jumped in on the phone and said Angela's not telling the truth. Angela's lying. So I do think Angela got a bit exposed tonight, or on that episode. I don't trust her anymore.

Porsha has come out as, in her terms, gay gay.

Dad: Is that a thing?

Isabella: I don't know. I mean, I guess it just before she was maybe messing around with women and now she's like fully a lesbian, I guess she's saying?

Dad: I'm just wondering, does saying it twice make a difference?

Isabella: The end of that episode, I thought, was sweet, where all the girls were kind of being nice to each other. I forget what even happened to make that all make them all come together. But I did notice that Porsha and Kelly, who mom calls the little one, they made up, and that seemed sweet. It seemed genuine. So we'll see.

But that's all I

Dad: They made up for the cameras. Who knows whether it's real?

Isabella: Well, of course. I mean, it's always for the cameras. They're always I mean, they they might have been fighting for the cameras. Right. Who knows?

Maybe they were always friends. We never know. So that's all I got for Atlanta. I'm excited to see how the Scotland trip goes, though. Yes.

Should we move on to Rhode Island?

Dad: Yes. All I have written down in my notes is wow. For a first season, two part reunion, there was a lot of back and forth, a lot of drama, court records being pulled up on a phone during the episode, and I felt a little bad for Rulla. She finally seemed to admit in front of people that she didn't know as much as she thought she should.

Isabella: I feel a little bit bad for Rulla too. Think she's definitely getting exposed for what she doesn't know. I know a lot of people don't like Jo Ellen. I kind of love Jo Ellen. I know she's maybe not the nicest person and maybe not the best person, but for this show, I love her.

She's bringing out everything she can find. She's digging deep for stuff. And I think it's great.

Dad: Agreed. Like I said last week, I think that once someone called her a liar, she was out to prove that she wasn't, and then she was like a dog with a bone. It was easy. As compared to so many other controversies that happened on these shows, there was so much that was easy for her to prove. When the other person has to rely on AI or date manipulation of videos, that person is grasping at

Isabella: Right. Yeah. So that was a big part of the episode is the Rulla versus Jo Ellen. We still had a little bit of Rosie versus Kelsey. Rosie's winning that easily.

It's not even close, really.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Kelsey just kinda looks silly at a certain point.

Dad: But they did seem to make up at the end.

Isabella: Yeah. We'll see how that goes. I think they might I think they might be frenemies. I think that's what's gonna kinda happen with these two.

Dad: To me the best part of the show was the husbands being brought out, and what's the foot doctor's first name? Rulla's husband?

Isabella: Brian. Brian.

Dad: What a chode. I mean, he looked like such a tool. And I love that Andy asked what I've been wondering this entire time. The affair and the lawsuit had been going on before the show started. What did he and what did Rulla think was going to happen?

This this is not the first time that stuff has been brought to light when you go on Real Housewives. I don't know who, obviously, no one was giving them advice, but they I guess they assumed they could just get past it, but nope.

Isabella: Yeah. I think Brian got pretty exposed during this reunion. Of course, I think he's involved in a lawsuit currently.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So his whole line the whole time was, I'm sorry. I have an NDA. I can't answer that, which is annoying. We've seen that before on shows, but it's always annoying. He was exposed for potentially still being married when they supposedly got married.

I don't know what the deal is with that. I guess oh, Brian also started some rumors about Liz cheating on her husband. Rulla didn't know about that. He's just he is messy behind It her

Dad: wouldn't surprise me if one or both of them are no longer on the show for next season.

Isabella: Right. Speaking of no longer on the show, we have seen that Liz has announced that she is gonna be no longer on the show. And I'm kind of disappointed. She wasn't my favorite, but I think she deserved a second season. I think she created some drama.

I think she looked pretty bad at the end, which is maybe why she decided it was

Dad: That could be.

Isabella: So that sucks, but Alicia's still my favorite. She's hilarious. The way she is so bored with her finances and all the other women are like, Alicia, you need to know this stuff. And acting like maybe her husband's hiding it from her, he's not hiding it from her. She just does not care.

Dad: She cares until she gets the details and then it's boring or over her head or both, and then just to stop, don't talk to me about that.

Isabella: Yeah. So I actually I really like I guess it's not her husband, her fiance. I really like him. He seems cool. I did notice that when they were talking about this, Teresa Giudice kind of caught astray.

Dad: Oh, yes.

Isabella: Because You can go ahead. Do you remember?

Dad: No. You I

Isabella: see, this is why I have to be the one who's talking the most.

Dad: Right. You're the play by play.

Isabella: Mhmm. Andy's making a comment about, Oh, it's not gone well in the past when we've had housewives not reading the husband's documents and just signing on.

Dad: Oh, yes, yes.

Isabella: Yeah, he made that I don't think he mentioned Teresa by name, but it was very clearly directed to Teresa. So that was funny. Why do I have written down Brian says Rulla's butt smells like garlic?

Dad: I don't I caught that. I was getting something out of the fridge to eat, and I just didn't quite understand the context. And then what's the guy from Bachelor?

Isabella: Jesse Palmer?

Dad: No. No. The one who's the husband that owns the coffee shop.

Isabella: Oh, Jared. Jared and Ashley. Ashley I. Yeah.

Dad: Right. Jared chimes in and says, I would like if my butt smelled like garlic. Okay.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I just don't even remember the context Don't of

Dad: quite get it.

Isabella: It was bizarre. No. And that's all I have about Rhode Island. I'm excited for the second season. I think this is a great group of women.

I didn't realize that we only had two parts. I thought there could have been time for another part.

Dad: Certainly.

Isabella: But, yeah. So that was one of the better first seasons we've had in a while. I'm excited for them to move on. I think Alicia's a star. I think Jo Ellen's gonna be there for a while.

I think Rosie and Kelsey are gonna be around for a while. This might be might be the new New Jersey. We'll see. May not get ahead of myself, but

Dad: Maybe.

Isabella: I think so. And anything else on Rhode Island? No. Okay. Well, we we had below deck med, which I don't have much about, but I did find it funny.

We talked about on our last episode this guest who was so awful. His girlfriend left him, got tender to shore. He's trying to call some other Croatian woman and pay her to come out on the boat. In this episode, it kind of all flipped. This guy is was so annoyed by the Boomerang, Nathan.

He's like, that guy sucks. Like, he's so rude. I I can't stand that guy. He's going to and telling Sandy. But it's funny because Nathan's doing the anchor watch, and this guy's so wasted drunk.

It's gotta be, like, one in the morning. Comes up, he asks to arm wrestle it out, which I was like, okay. This guy might actually be funny. Then he's talking about where a scenario where he had six girls peeing on him, and I'm like, woah, dude.

Dad: Probably not something you should be sharing on

Isabella: With a stranger and on TV. Right. But he's clearly so wasted that I don't know if he even knows what's happening. We then saw Nathan McJoe lead deckhand, which was nice, because he wasn't going too earlier and they've been kind of arguing all season. So that's nice to see, I guess.

Dad: Eating in the dark was dumb.

Isabella: It was dumb.

Dad: Why would I don't get it. It just makes it hard on the crew and I wanna see what I'm eating. What

Isabella: I feel like there used to be this famous restaurant where you would eat in complete darkness. I don't even know if it's a thing anymore.

Dad: It's ringing a bell, but

Isabella: It's supposed to be good for your senses so that because you can't see it, can taste it better.

Dad: I don't buy that.

Isabella: Maybe it would even be good for you.

Dad: Oh, burn.

Isabella: Let's see, what else do I have? Oh, then we have the Luke love triangle with Jen and the chef Joy, Seems I that Luke is spending more time with Jen, and I think he's going to regret that.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Because it seemed like he was indicating that he liked Joy more, but maybe he's I think Jen's maybe easier to get some attention out of.

Dad: Well, at dinner he was spending more time with Joy until Jen decided, I'm gonna go over and pout and actually cry and then win him over for the evening.

Isabella: Yeah, which is ridiculous. And then of course they are doing whatever they're doing in their bunk and the entire boat can hear them. So

Dad: Next episode should be good.

Isabella: Yeah. It'll be an interesting play into the next episode. So that's all I have for Below Deck Med.

Dad: I don't have anything else. You wanna do In the City or Next Gen first?

Isabella: Let's do In the City.

Dad: All I wrote down was maybe Gavin isn't a douche, but he's acting super douchey.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: Every time he opens his mouth, I don't know if he's just trying to become like a main person on the show or is fighting for airtime, and it's working. He's getting airtime. He's going to all the events. But just be quiet.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't disagree. I didn't have many notes on him. This second wedding?

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: That was what was pissing me off the most about this episode is her acting like what's her name even? Yvonne? Lindsay's friend.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: I think her name is Yvonne. She's getting all mad. She's mad at Danielle for wearing a light pink dress even though she approved the dress. Danielle asked her if it's okay. She said, Yes.

And listen, Danielle is not my favorite, but this was stupid. Because you're already married. Notice that no family was there, so it's not like this was a legit thing. This was a for TV, and I'm making the quotations with my hands, like a wedding. It was not real.

And then, yeah, her making it all about herself, being like, This is my wedding, you guys. You're fighting at my wedding. This is not your wedding.

Dad: I think she was probably more miffed because they might have paid for out of pocket instead of having production pay for it. And it was less screen time for her and her husband.

Isabella: Yeah. I think yeah. I think you're right. I do think that the white dress thing with Danielle, I think that's fake drama because we did see the text of Yvonne saying that looks great. I

Dad: It looked do white in that lighting to me as opposed to maybe it looked pink in the text.

Isabella: Yeah, but that's not Danielle's fault. I mean, my God.

Dad: No. I'm I'm not saying it care.

Isabella: Yeah. So there was a big a big mess about Kyle and Amanda, as usual. Lindsay's like scream crying over it. And I love Lindsay to death. I think she's one of the greatest maybe not greatest of all time, but she's really, really good on reality TV.

She's been doing it for a long time. The scream cry over Kyle and Amanda's marriage, it's not really hitting the way I think she wanted it to because we know the final outcome and none of us feel bad for Amanda anymore and none of us feel bad for Kyle either really, because Kyle sucks too.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: At least in my mind. So that, yeah, I get what Lindsay was trying to do, but it didn't really hit the way she wanted it to be. I do think I liked how she went at Danielle a little bit and said, Why are you on the show? Or she didn't go at Danielle, she went at Danielle's boyfriend, Owen. Said, Why would you want to be on the show if you didn't think that stuff was going to come out about you?

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Because I guess they're questioning when he got married? Question mark? Yes. So I don't know. Danielle's getting very defensive about that.

I do wonder if maybe there's some truth there. My last note for the show is Lindsay is crazy, and I love her for it.

Dad: It helps.

Isabella: It's really good for

Dad: reality TV.

Isabella: Right now, she's the only interesting one on the show, I think. I think even the Amanda Kyle thing is kind of outdated at this Yes. Like, we know what happens. We know Amanda's in a whole new relationship now. So who cares?

I guess the last thing we have is The Valley and Next Gen NYC.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Do you have anything on The Valley?

Dad: No, it's just repeating the same thing. I'm getting tired of it.

Isabella: Yeah. Danny sucks. Like, he's getting worse every single episode.

Dad: Oh. I think I told you that when someone gets drunk and mad or gets upset, yeah, that sucks, but nothing is as bad as Danny when he's drunk. It's just annoying. Let's go. That's so it's like Melanie's voice.

It grates on my nerves.

Isabella: Yeah. He's getting all pissy about not being allowed to, like, grind on other girls.

Dad: I think he was just saying he couldn't move his hips the way he did. I didn't know that it was specifically tied to grinding on women.

Isabella: I don't know about it. I I don't know either, but either way, I think it's ridiculous to be all whining about that for the entire night.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Like, get over it. You're a grown man.

Dad: That show's gotta be winding up the season. It's gotta be coming a close.

Isabella: I hope Because they're on

Dad: a trip that's usually towards the end of

Isabella: the Yeah, I hope so. The only other thing I had to say is Jesse and Michelle still have a weird dynamic. Jesse made comments about, Oh, Michelle never did this when we were married. And vice versa. Michelle made comments about him saying, Oh, Jesse was never this loving when we were married.

So they're weird. And then the last thing I had to say was, Zach hitting his head? That was scary, and I don't know why they had to show it so many times.

Dad: Right. It was on this episode before is a preview. Every single commercial break, it was a preview, and then repeated when it came back to actually can't say that I haven't done something similar, not just in well, actually it wasn't a bust, but that's a long story.

Isabella: And in other places too.

Dad: Yeah. So glad he's okay.

Isabella: Yeah. I'm glad he's okay. He seemed to have a good energy about it. He was like, I'll go to the hospital as long as you bring me to the club afterwards.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So he was funny. I like Zach. He's like comedic relief on this show for the most part, for the most part.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: And then Next Gen NYC?

Dad: I have a couple things. One, I really like Shai. I think he's funny and has got an understated sense of humor and kinda quirky. I am super annoyed by them constantly showing the text back and forth between the cast members. They show it on the screen.

I don't know if that's geared towards a different generation, but stop. I I don't need to see that. And then Hudson clearly has some insecurity issues with his ex girlfriend and buddying up with what's his name? Charlie. Charlie.

That that is obviously a disaster in the making.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, is just a disaster in general. Yes. Did he get cut off?

I mean, I assume he got because his dad is very, very wealthy. I'm assuming he got cut off.

Dad: I don't know.

Isabella: That was never really probably made more out

Dad: there about that crypto thing that they keep referencing. There has to be information out there that has come out since, but I haven't had enough interest to bother looking into it.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, we saw Gia and Ava. They were fighting at the end of the last episode, because I guess Theresa unfollowed Ava on Instagram. I don't even know. They made up.

Okay. We had a Brielle Biermann sighting this episode. Brielle, I used to see her around town growing up. Right. So that was just funny to see.

Omar, George's ex boyfriend, who is trying to make some club with Charlie. Charlie went into his office. What is going on there? It looked like a old, like, abandoned building.

Dad: Right. And there was something weird about his chair. He was sitting so that his chest was at desk level, And he's wearing the same suit I think he wore all of last season with a tie, which he's trying to portray himself as some hedge fund guy or some wealthy guy. I don't I can't say that I spot a great suit off the bat, but I can spot a kind of poor suit, and that didn't look like a great suit. And I don't think that people in that industry even fully wear suits all the time.

So it's just kind of a weird carryover from last season.

Isabella: He is just a weird guy. Like, think there's something going on with that guy that maybe we'll find out about in a couple years.

Dad: Yep.

Isabella: Let's see. We did meet Brooke Shields' daughter, Rowan. She seems cute.

Dad: Yeah. And she seemed cool and quirky too at the you know, for her first appearance on the show.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't think we know much about her yet, but we'll we'll learn. And then we also saw the return of my favorite Riley Burruss, Kandi's daughter. She just completely Charlie and Shay actually went and tried to hug her and

she completely rejected both of them.

Dad: I don't like hugs.

Isabella: Yeah. Even though she's I don't know if that's the truth. I think it's I don't like hugs from you. But they were all these everyone on the show, the cast, guess was talking about why is Charlie even here? Who's even friends with Charlie.

I guess only Amira and Shai is it Shay or Shai?

Dad: I think it's Shai.

Isabella: Amira and Shai are the only ones that are friends with Charlie out of the whole group. So all these girls are surprised, like why is Charlie even here? But it's because Amira invited him. I was surprised he even came back on this season. I thought the whole cast hated him.

Oh. Thought there was no way he was gonna be brought back because who is he gonna film with?

Dad: Well, I guess money talks.

Isabella: Yeah, I guess so. And then I did have a comment on just Hudson and Ariana. If they've been on and off for ten years, they're not done. Probably They're not done yet. And if they ever do decide to be done, then they need to not be seeing each other because that's not gonna work.

Right. So they'll be back. I'm convinced of it. But that's all I got.

Dad: Same for me.

Isabella: Well, any final thoughts?

Dad: Keep reaching out with suggestions about new shows and as she said, follow on the socials, but she's on vacation the entire week.

Isabella: Yeah. I will be gone all week, but I will, of course, still be tuning in. I will still be doing my rankings for Love Island USA for if anybody's interested in those at all, I'm gonna keep doing them. I wouldn't say we're excited for Love Island to end, but we're excited to spend a little bit more time on the other shows. Yes.

And kind of mix in some other things. Like, I just watched the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. You have yet to watch it yet, but I thought it was a good season.

Dad: It was interesting. Proud seasons have been really good.

Isabella: It's a really good show, so we'll probably cover that at some point. And then we'll mix in some documentaries here and there. Yep. But we're looking forward to the next episode. Thanks for listening.

Dad: Thanks a lot.

Isabella: That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

Isabella: If you like the show, leave us a rating or a comment. It helps more than you think. Follow us wherever you're listening and on social media at Check Me Boomer.

Dad: And tell a friend who'd get it.

Isabella: See you next week.

“Is this Bad Girls Club?”

It was Casa Amor week on Love Island USA — twelve new guys for the girls, a recoupling that detonated the villa, and the line that summed it all up: "Is this Bad Girls Club?" Plus Love Island UK dumpings, a Rhode Island reunion, RHOA, Below Deck Med, and Dad's airing of grievances.

Two villas, one chaotic week. We break down the Love Island USA recoupling couple by couple — who came back, who stayed loyal, and who's already unraveling — then cross the pond for the UK's Public Tea vs. Villa Receipts game and a clearing-house round of dumpings.

Beyond the Love Islands: the Real Housewives of Rhode Island reunion kicks off, Real Housewives of Atlanta, Below Deck Med's worst-guest-ever, The Valley, McBee Dynasty, In the City, Next Gen NYC, and Netflix survival show Outlast: The Jungle. Then Dad airs his grievances — love languages, Peacock's menus, poor grammar, and slow and meandering walkers in airports.

Rate, review, and follow @CheckMeBoomer.

Isabella: Welcome back.

Dad: Welcome.

Isabella: This is our episode four. We have a lot to cover this week. Lots of Love Island stuff. We had Casa Amor in USA. We had a lot going on in The UK too.

And then, of course, we will cover our other weekly shows, Rhode Island Reunion part one, Real Housewives of Atlanta. We have Below Deck Mediterranean. I think you're gonna mention some McBee Dynasty in the city. Anything I'm missing, dad?

Dad: I've also got The Valley. It finally got interesting to me. Outlast Jungle, a new show that we'll cover. And then I have my airing of dad's grievances.

Isabella: Okay.

Dad: Okay. Great.

Isabella: So I think we should start with UK since we did just watch the Sunday episode, it's fresh on our minds. Sunday the twenty eighth.

Dad: And it's episode twenty eighth.

Isabella: Yeah. So I think a lot was going on in UK this week. We started with everyone coming back from the sleepover, which now feels like forever ago. And in this latest episode that we saw, they were playing a game called I guess it was a choice between public tea and

Dad: Villa receipts.

Isabella: Villa receipts. Yes. So that's just the context of where where we're where we are, what we're gonna be talking about. I think this week, I wanna kind of break it down by couples

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: And do that, because there is a lot going on. Sure. Let's stay organized in this way. And I wanna start with a couple that isn't even a couple, but they're my favorite couple, and it's Jasmine and Lorenzo.

Dad: Okay. Soon to be a couple.

Isabella: Hope so. I hope so. So we know now that Jasmine is with Kavan, and Kavan actually came back from sleepover and had a little bit of a connection with Tina, but as soon as he got back, was off for Jasmine. He was even talking about maybe being exclusive with her. Lorenzo is of course still with Jasmine, who was also on the sleepover.

So I think that's kind of how Jasmine and Lorenzo kind of maybe, I wouldn't say rekindled fully, but there was a lot of close chatting and flirty conversations while they were both at the sleepovers, so I think that's kind of where this all came from.

Dad: Right. And you and your mom are fans of Lorenzo. I don't dislike him. It's just a little annoying that he plays it so cool and loose that he won't commit, and he's keeping his cards close to the chest, as they say in The UK as opposed to the vest here. But I wish he would just be a little bit more outgoing and make a decision, but I guess that's each person's entitled to do whatever they want.

Isabella: I I don't disagree with that at all. I do think he needs to, like, make decisions and have opinions, which I think he sometimes lacks, but he's just different. I like him because he's very dry. His sense of humor is very matter of fact. And I think I've mentioned before that Jasmine is my favorite girl.

She's not that far ahead of Ellie, but I think she's just a baddie, and she's so cool.

Dad: Well, no one compares to Ellie, so let's we could move on and just know that that's she's the best, as proven by the vote this week.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. We'll we'll get there. So

Dad: I think that Lorenzo sometimes comes across as being aloof, which is not always great, especially when someone is trying to figure out whether you're a couple or not.

Isabella: Yeah. That's true. Yasmin has definitely mentioned that too. I think in today's episode, she mentioned that she was a little bit upset, and normally when she's upset, she kind of wants her partner to make her feel better, console her a little bit, but she even knows that she said Lorenzo's not really that kind of guy. So for that reason, I do think that he and Jasmine are better suited for each other.

They seem like they understand each each other's communication styles a little bit better. I think Jasmine likes Lorenzo's very chill manner. And I think that Lorenzo also understands Jasmine. And I think we see that a lot because we've seen Jasmine and Kavan have been having a lot of fights. We saw the he told her to chill out after one of the challenges, I think, and she didn't like that.

And they're just it's a lot of bickering going on there. Lorenzo has even since admitted that if Jasmine were interested again, he would go for it. Jasmine is the one who's kind of holding it back now, but I think that I think if Cavin and if she and Cavin continue to argue, then I think we have a shot here. And I think that they're gonna argue again considering what she just found out in the game today about what he said to Tina. I don't know what the exact quote is, but he definitely said something about like, oh, I wanna be something about wanting to be in bed with Tina.

So I think that we're gonna see how that goes, but I'm hoping there's an opening for Lorenzo here. So, yeah, that's still a work in progress. We're gonna see how it goes, but I do think a lot of people are kind of in on that, that they wanna see this happen. So we'll see. Now, Mika's had a crazy week.

Right?

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: She has been in a couple of different love triangles. The first one was with Simba and Angie. Mika had definitely mentioned that she was into Simba, and they were able to explore that a little bit more at this sleepover that they went to. They kissed at the sleepover even though Simba told Angie he wasn't gonna kiss anybody, but whatever. So they come back from the sleepover, and Simba decides to ask Mika if she wants to go to the hideaway, to which Mika decides she does not want to do.

Simba freaks out. He goes crazy, which kind of gives Mika the ick. And not only that, but Simba also made this comment towards Angelista about, Oh, I think God sent you to me.

Dad: Right. Bringing in religion and helping him win her over.

Isabella: Which Mika definitely didn't like. So I think that that was the last straw for Mika. So at this point, I think Simba and Angelista seemed to be solid. They won the heart rate challenge. They both raised each other's heart rates the most.

And so after that, she did tell him, you're out of the doghouse now, which I thought was a little bit soon. But whatever. If they're happy, then fine. So

Dad: Well, she's got to have a couple to win, so it could be gameplay.

Isabella: True. I think maybe that's a little bit true for both of them. Simba then got angry again about there was a dumping where his buddy Chitty, Chitty and Hallie from the sleepover, they both left and Simba went crazy again. So I think Simba might have some anger issues, but we'll see that play out there.

Dad: He's just passionate.

Isabella: Oh, yeah. He ain't just passion. So then Mika, once she's over Simba, she decides that she's into Samraj again, who if you remember they were coupled up initially. So Samraj, the problem is he's currently with Priya. Now Samraj does not like Priya.

He's made that clear to everybody besides Priya. He said on one of the first days they were even talking that he thinks that she has a big ego and he's kinda got the from her, but not saying any of that to him. So he and Mika are going up on the terrace having little chats and then coming back and to and he's kissing Priya in bed. So I think he's really wanting his cake and having it too. I think in the in over the course of the week, Priya kind of was gathering what was going on.

And I think at this point, Priya and Samraj are no longer really getting to know each other. So it's kind of Mika and Samraj at this moment.

Dad: Right. So in fairness to Lorenzo, he's flip flopping too, Samraj, I prefer that approach because at least he's talking about it and saying things to both of them and now seems to have committed fully to Mika, at least for the time being.

Isabella: I don't disagree, but I do have issue with Samraj saying all of these things about Priya without saying them to Priya.

Dad: That's fair.

Isabella: And maybe he didn't have to say exactly what he said, but I do think that Priya had to figure it out for herself. Neither of them really pulled her aside and said, Hey, I really have feelings for Samraj. I have feelings for Mika. I guess they did eventually, but it wasn't until Priya figured out on her own that they finally were like, yes, this is what we're doing. So I think Priya's alone right now.

I do feel for her. I know she was in the bottom three couples, or the bottom three girls, but she did not get sent home. So I hope someone comes in for her. We'll see.

Dad: I agree. I think that they all take whoever's in the bottom three takes it too hard. Someone's gotta be in the bottom three, and it doesn't mean that they don't like you, it's just that maybe they like the other people more.

Isabella: Yeah, that's a good point. Especially with the girls, I feel like a lot of the girls, you can't no one's done anything really wrong. So the boys are a different story. But let's go on to your favorite girl. Ellie.

Ellie. Now while we're here, I think we should say there was a public vote on favorite girl and favorite boy, and Ellie did get top girl. Of course. And Lorenzo got top boy. So they both were very awkward about that, which I guess I can imagine kind of, but that was nice to see, I guess.

Dad: I think your mom's getting a little jealous because I think Ellie is so great. Any words that come out of her mouth, I just laugh at full volume, out loud. I can't help it. Anything she says, and that's why this week she got so much airtime. Was just great.

Isabella: Well, I'm also now thinking of so we kind of started the week with she was with Tommy at the time. Tommy Tommy Ellie asked Tommy, hey, are you interested in either of the new bombshells that came in from the sleepover? Tommy says, no. I'm not interested in either of them. And then immediately Tommy goes and kisses Hallie right after he said that to Ellie.

So Ellie of course finds out, she storms out, had one of the best crashouts I've seen in a while just because it was so funny. She goes, You pissed me off again? However you say it into. Again? Again?

Dad: There's no way we can do it justice. She adds extra syllables, kind of like the one on Below Deck Med.

Isabella: Aesha.

Dad: Yes. She can draw out a single syllable word into five syllable words.

Isabella: Pissed me off yet again.

Dad: And she's the best at dropping f bombs. The way she says it, it's just classic. I might have to get a clip of that and make it one of your ringtones.

Isabella: Yeah. We'll see about that. So Ellie was done with Tommy after that.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Ellie then started talking to Finley, who came from the sleepover. And I think I really like them together. They're kinda boring right now, but I think it's good for her. She kinda needs that. So I like him for her.

I do think when the dumping came around after the sleepover, the options were Hallie and Mika and Tommy and Chitty. And they had to send home two. And they were obviously gonna keep Mika. I don't think anyone wanted to get rid of Mika. Mika even brought up maybe she should leave, but changed her mind pretty quickly.

There was voting so the Islanders voted and decided to keep Tommy, but what was interesting is the all of his votes came from only the men. So none of the girls voted for Tommy to stay, and yet he did. So I think it was obvious he should have been dumped. Now, fast forward, he he was dumped.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So

Dad: You skipped over the part where the four people who were at risk of being booted had to decide amongst themselves, as if that was gonna ever happen. You did say that Mika almost voluntarily pulled out on her own, but the other three weren't going to cave. So I thought it was good that they finally said you all should vote, and then Aiden sort of took over and ran the show, but it had to be done. I'm sure production was probably saying, like, guys, let's move this along.

Isabella: What would have made the most sense was for the girls to vote on the guys and vice versa. Right. That would have made the most sense, but he got what was coming to him. He's gone now, so it's all good. I felt bad for Chitty and Hallie, but that's how the show goes, so

Dad: Yeah. If you come in as a bombshell, the risk is you don't stay. That's why everyone should wanna be an OG. And they have to know that going in, that there's a risk that they won't stay as long. And the whole, I didn't get my opportunity to stay long and develop anything.

Okay. That's how it goes.

Isabella: Yeah. I think we could say the same thing about USA. I mean, lot of people felt bad for Sol, but again, that's how this goes. It's it sucks for them, but that's how this goes. So anything else about Ellie?

Dad: Nope. I I might try to seek out whether there's a fan club, but that might be too cringey.

Isabella: I think you said the same thing last season about Yasmin.

Dad: I don't

Isabella: Now you don't even remember who that is.

Dad: No. Do. She was the kind of alabaster white, little giving a little Morticia, Addams Family vibes, the long hair, and she just said funny things, but she can't I don't know if she can hold up a candle to Ellie.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, I think for me, those are the main storylines. I do want to mention Sean and Lola. They're sweet. They told each other they loved each other, but I also noticed something that I'm not sure if anyone else noticed.

The day before, they said that they love each other. Sean said in passing that he thinks he wants a test.

Dad: He did say something like that, and then when they were playing the game today, public tea or

Isabella: Villa receipts?

Dad: Yes. It came out that he said, I might have settled a little too early on being exclusive. And they're trying to everyone is working on helping him play that down. He must have been joking, but I I think that that's gonna come up on movie night, we'll see the real context. Yeah.

I don't remember him saying that, but I also

Isabella: I don't remember him saying that either, but I did I definitely made a note of when he said that he thinks he wants a test, because I thought that was weird, given the timing. I think they're gonna probably make it to the end, but maybe they'll have a little blip here and there. And then I have a couple things about Tina and Aiden. Tina was she came in in the sleepover. She was talking to Kavan, and then when Kavan went back to Jasmine, she went for Kavan's brother, Aiden.

And I don't think these two ever were really interested in each other. No. She didn't wanna kiss him, which I actually loved because that's all Aiden wants, is he wants to kiss all these girls. So when she turned that down, I gained a lot of respect for her, but I lost it all when she when they were playing that game in the fire pit. And Aiden's talking about how he still has feelings for Yaz, but there's not really anything he can do about it if Yaz is still with Lorenzo.

And Tina got so upset about that, but Aiden had mentioned that, like, hours earlier. So that didn't really make sense to me, and that ended with them being like, we're good. We don't need to continue getting to know each other. So weird couple, but okay.

Dad: Well, whenever you're done with the couples, I just have a random observation slash question.

Isabella: I'm done with the couples and gonna go into my random observations. So Okay. So I think that's all I have regarding the couples. I do wanna mention all the people. We had six people get dumped this week.

Sam, Namibia, Chitty, Hallie, Tina, and Tommy, all dumped.

Dad: Clearing house.

Isabella: Clearing house, which they needed to do. And I think I mentioned the favorites were Ellie and Lorenzo. And then the last thing I wanna say, and this I think is gonna get into our little intergenerational differences, I'm curious. We had a Villa performance this week.

Dad: Oh, this is my random topic.

Isabella: Okay. Go. So, Bebe Rexha.

Dad: No earthly idea who she is.

Isabella: That's funny to me, because I was actually thinking, wow, this is the best get they've gotten in a while. Like, Bebe Rexha is known. She's known in The United States. She's just not known to boomers like you.

Dad: Okay. No. This was the topic I was gonna bring up. I was gonna say, what's with this UK music? I'd I've never known anyone to be a star on the show.

I always turn to your mother and say, am I supposed to know who this is? She doesn't know. And then it's always the same style music. It's like dance music, and it's not like it's just the women like it. The men seem to know all the words.

They're mouthing it as they're doing that slow motion dance, is so ridiculous. But I was wondering, is it just me and I'm the only one, or your mother and I are the only ones that don't know who these people are? So I'm glad you brought that up.

Isabella: Well, it's no. Don't get me wrong. Bebe Rexha is no she's no Taylor Swift. She's no Beyonce. But she is, I would say, she's known in The United States by at least my generation, would say.

She's definitely got some hits. I normally am not a fan of the Villa performances, and I kind of I'm I'm still not a fan. It's not like Bebe Rexha had changed things for me. I think it's boring. I I usually don't know who they're bringing in on The UK.

I'm trying to remember. I know Ne-Yo came in

Dad: I in know him.

Isabella: And I can't remember if it was USA or UK. If it was UK, then that's the best one they've gotten.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: But

Dad: I'm not familiar with her work, but it looked like she was really singing, because I know that on some of these, I'm convinced they're lip syncing.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't you're obsessed with finding out if someone's lip syncing. I don't really

Dad: care I that can always tell. I don't need to check. I know.

Isabella: So, yeah, I was interested in that because I knew when she came out, was like, mom and dad are gonna have no idea who this is. It kind of reminds me of the time that I I think I was mentioning to you and mom about some music festival set list, and I said something about t pain. I said, oh my gosh, t pain is there. You and mom go, who? I said, t pain?

You don't know t pain?

Dad: At the time, I didn't. I'm a huge fan now.

Isabella: Uh-huh. Right. Right. So the one thing I did like about B. B.

Rexha though is you can tell she watches the show, because I love how she called out Simba. She was like, Simba, treat my girl Angie better. And called out Jasmine and said, Jasmine, you're a baddie. Keep doing you. So that was cool, I guess.

But that's that's all I have for you, Kay.

Dad: I don't have anything to add.

Isabella: Okay. So that was all you had. The Bebe Rexha. Alright. Love Island USA.

We had a big week. This week was Casa Amor. Now I'm going give a little bit of context to kind of what happened, and then I think we should go into the couples, and we'll talk about the re coupling.

Dad: Okay. And I have a couple random things as we go through the couple.

Isabella: I got a couple too. So the week starts with the whole villa kind of getting ready for the heart rate challenge. And what we don't know is that the boys are all gonna be taken away to Casa Amor. The girls are all gonna be sat down at the fire pit thinking that the boys are coming out, but really they have this big gift in front of them that opens up, and it's a screen of all their boys at Casa Amor getting danced on by the Casa Amor girls.

Dad: Right. And as a reminder, last week we were complaining, where are the bombshells? And then they bring in six for the men immediately that night last week.

Isabella: Well, yeah. To that point, they then decide to bring in 12 men for the girls. 12.

Dad: It's got to be a first.

Isabella: I think it's definitely a first. Now, of course, not all of them could stay. They don't have enough room in the villa for all of them to stay, so the girls were allowed to pick six to stay. And then midway through the week, they each villa, Casa Amor and the villa, got a letter from the other villa with all of each pretty much every single person kissing someone in or outside of a challenge. So that caused drama.

And then, of course, we had the re coupling on Friday night.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I think we should start with KC and Anaya because that was kind of the craziest re coupling of the night, I would argue.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So before Casa Amor, I think KC and Anaya were already kind of rocky. It's very clear they they can't communicate with each other. They're not really hearing each other. They're saying different things to their girls. He's saying different things to his boys.

I think more so on his side. I think Anaya was being a little bit more honest with him, but we'll we'll come we'll come back around to that. So

Dad: But I never thought that they looked like they liked each other. They never acted the way the other couples did. And sure, Bryce and

Isabella: Trinity.

Dad: Trinity. Early on didn't act like they liked each other so much, but they obviously evolved and it's pretty clear that they are into each other. I'll I'll leave it at that. But, yeah, the KC and Anaya, I just never thought were a thing to begin with.

Isabella: That's fair. I mean, they never really showed each other a ton of affection, which I think was a big part of KC's problem. But now KC can also be a little bit nicer about it versus calling her a grandma. He really lost me over this whole week. He there were so many disrespectful things that he said that just didn't need to be said.

You're allowed to not like Anaya. You're allowed to bring back a whole other girl. But just be respectful about it.

Dad: Especially when you know you're being recorded.

Isabella: Right. Yes. And now, he was this little fire pit heart rate challenge, we know the boys did not know that the girls were watching, but they also knew that they were being taped and that it was probably gonna come back around to movie night. So the way that they immediately acted as soon as they got new girls in front of them, I mean, KC was going crazy. He's making out with all the girls, already talking about bringing TiTi back, I think.

So KC's talking to TiTi, he decides he wants to explore Sydney for a night, and then he does come back around to TiTi. Now on the other side, Anaya has this sweet man named Carl. He seems to be really into her. She, I don't think, was ever into him. I think she thinks he's this really nice guy.

I don't think she was ever gonna bring him back, unfortunately for Carl. Yet KC is just moving so weird in that villa saying, oh, Anaya and I don't have anything in common. Like, fine, but why didn't you say these things to her?

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So in the end, Anaya stayed single. KC brought back TiTi. And then Is

Dad: TiTi short again?

Isabella: TiTi is short for Tierra. Okay. And then all hell broke loose. So TiTi and KC kind of come in on smoke a little bit.

Dad: Love that new saying.

Isabella: KC comes in with his head down, and all the girls are like, Look up, be a man, grow up. You're a grown man, you can speak for yourself. They're asking him questions, he's like, not really wanting to speak. Finally, Trinity asks him a question and says, hey, I just wanna just curious, you brought up that you and Anaya were the strongest couple over she and Bryce at one point. I don't really know where Trinity was going with that, but TiTi decides to jump in because KC is not really speaking, so TiTi's gotta jump in and speak for KC.

Trinity's trying to tell her, like, I could tell that Trinity's trying to be nice. She's like, Girl, I'm not talking to you. Like, no shade, I'm not talking to you. TiTi does not give it up. So I do think Trinity started to get a little bit more pissed off.

And then Tierra calls Trinity a little girl.

Dad: Yeah. That's probably not smart.

Isabella: No. And then I think I remember Kayda saying something like, that is not the way you enter this villa. Anaya said the best line of the whole season is this Bad Girls Club. So in case he's still just standing there quiet, like not speaking for himself.

Dad: Would you say that Bad Girls Club is one of your all time favorite reality TV shows?

Isabella: I don't think I'd say all time favorite, but it's definitely a unique one.

Dad: That's the understatement.

Isabella: There are not many other shows where it's just girls fist fighting each other for a whole hour. They don't even that show doesn't exist anymore anyway. Okay. So, yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen with Anaya. I think, honestly, it it might be time for her to go soon.

She's not KC's not interested in her, and Anaya, she's not gonna be interested in anyone else besides KC. So that's over. I think Anaya needs to go. I don't like KC either. I would love for him to go too, but we'll see.

Dad: Oh, he's gonna stay, because that's drama.

Isabella: Yeah, but public voting. I mean

Dad: Okay. If there's a risk.

Isabella: So they are ridiculous. Zach and Kayda, I think these two seem like a nice couple on the outside, but I think deep down, there are issues there. Even before Casa Amor, we saw Caleb pull Kayda. Zach got all whiny and upset about it. Even Kayda comes back and tries to talk to Zach, and Zach's like, I need to talk to Bryce.

I need to talk to Bryce. Just so bizarre. Just go ahead.

Dad: Right. But she does I don't wanna skip too far ahead, but at some point, she said, I like that you're jealous. And so he's getting rewarded for it. And I get it. Some people like some level of jealousy, but he went off a little bit early.

They're not a couple. They're not exclusive. So it it seems and it's a game. It's a TV show.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, I especially found it interesting, and I think we even may might have mentioned this last episode. I found it especially interesting because Zach is the one who in the hideaway, he's talking about getting to know another bombshell that doesn't even exist yet.

Dad: So Bad timing.

Isabella: Thought it was a little bit hypocritical from Zach's end, but I guess they they weren't really on the rocks. Like, maybe they were a little bit, I don't know, upset with each other, but I don't think they were ever really on the rocks. So going into Casa Amor, I think they were fine. Zach starts talking to Alana, who was then kicked off a few days later for, again, saying racist slurs online. So that's, my God, how many now?

But anyway, Zach's talking to her. Zach did kiss her outside of a challenge.

Dad: Right. And was photographed doing so. Mhmm.

Isabella: So Kayda, of course, saw that in the letter. She was all torn up about that. I mean, for the whole episode, the whole day. Kayda's talking to Che, who I don't think she was ever interested in. I don't think she was ever gonna kiss that man.

Were never yeah. Zach and Kayda were always gonna come back together. Zach still bothers me a lot. I mean, just all his whining. I feel like he's constantly whining about something.

It bothers me. I don't know how many other people feel the same way, but that's how I feel about Zach. I wish better for my girl Kayda, but that's not gonna happen. She likes Zach. So moving on, Bryce and Trinity.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Not much to say here because I love these two. These are my winners.

Dad: I think your mom cried when they got back together.

Isabella: I almost cried. I don't think I had full tears, but oh my gosh, when they're both in the yellow and Bryce is he sees Trinity by himself and then he kinda starts running over there and he starts crying. Oh my god. Yeah. It was just so sweet.

We did see a little blip from Trinity. We saw Trinity kiss Cory in the photo booth. But I do think that that's maybe what she needed to help her realize that she really does like Bryce. So we saw all week both of them crying in their confessionals saying how much they miss each other.

Dad: And I don't think that Bryce is going to hold that against her. I don't think if it comes up it's going to be brief and dispensed with, and they'll move on.

Isabella: I think so too. I know that that has been an issue in other seasons where someone kisses someone and then realizes immediately after, Oh, that's not what I want. I want the person that I was with. But it's still kind of an issue. I don't like it when it's an issue because that's kind of the point of Casa Amor.

Like if Bryce would've kissed a girl and then made it made him realize I like Trinity better, fine. That's the whole point. So, yeah, I don't think that's really gonna be held against her either. I think Bryce is obsessed with her. The matching yellow.

I love the matching yellow. I mean, Bryce spoke with Sydney. That was never gonna go anywhere. He was obsessed with

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Trinity. So they're great. They're my winners. Now let's get to the couple that isn't even a couple anymore, Kenzie and Corbin.

Dad: Right. I I have some comments not about the couple, but about her.

Isabella: About Kenzie? Yes. Yeah. Go ahead.

Dad: She is saying things, and I don't know if it's what she's saying, the way she's saying it, a combination. She sounds so dumb. It it's just so bad. Like, your mom and I just look at each other. I I don't understand it.

And then not quite a couple, but when she talked to Gal by the way, what is Gal short for? It's I'm struggling with it. Haven't looked it looked it up yet, but two things. Your mother and I, we thought they looked like each other, like they might be cousins. And then she said afterwards she really likes him and maybe even in front of him, said she's always dreamed of having surfer babies.

Is that a thing? Is that something that I'm just not familiar with, surfer babies?

Isabella: No. Okay. Not I what's funny about that is I thought her type was a cowboy. I thought she wanted cowboy babies, but I guess it's surfer now.

Dad: Well, I don't know. Maybe surfer babies is a thing and cowboy babies is not

Isabella: a thing. It's No, not a she just made that up.

Dad: That's just my those are my only random observations about her.

Isabella: Kenzie is quite the controversial figure, I'd say. I think a lot of people don't like her. I think a lot of people do like her. I have my issues with her, but I I liked her a lot during Casa Amor. I think she was outside of Melanie, I think she was the most rational person in that villa.

She saw what Corbin said, that in the heart rate challenge, Corbin pretty much immediately said, I'm bringing another girl back, Kenzie who? Of course that hurt Kenzie, but I love how she responded. She was like, basically, for the rest of the time, Corbin who? She was like, I don't even

Dad: Yes. And to give her credit, when she said she was done, I believed her, as opposed to Anaya and Melanie. I never believed either one of them. Right. All three of them.

I knew they would stick with their man and it wasn't gonna work out for at least one of them.

Isabella: Yeah. I agree with that. I did believe Kenzie more because if you remember, Kenzie was initially into Zach, and once Zach didn't want her, Kenzie didn't speak to him again. So I knew that she wasn't gonna go back to Corbin, she wasn't gonna be sitting there. So she did end up picking Dylan, even though you mentioned she still wanted to get to know Gal, who Gal ended up with Jen.

We're not gonna talk about them. I don't have anything to say about them, but

Dad: The only thing I have to say, this might be something we have to cut out, is Jen's cleavage is insane.

Isabella: You know what? This is funny. I've seen a tweet or something online saying, like, why do I feel like Jen's boobs are getting bigger every episode?

Dad: She's definitely picking from The Rack. I don't know if eBay is this one or UK, but and no pun intended there.

Isabella: I was going to say The Rack?

Dad: She is definitely picking what's showing her assets the best. It's just can't help but notice it, and I'm sure it's not by accident. I don't know if it's appropriate or too cringey, but we can always edit that out.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, I want to talk a little bit more about Corbin and how he and KC are two of the worst men I've seen on this show in a while. If any of you follow our social media accounts, I've made a whole post calling them both coward losers because as soon as they're away from their girls, they got a whole lot to say about those Villa girls, Calling them, oh, these Casa Amor girls are college girls, and the Villa girls are like high school girls. Just for for no reason. It's just so bizarre.

Dad: Definitely gonna be shown on movie night. Oh, for If they don't, I'm gonna be a little bit disappointed.

Isabella: Speaking of movie night, really quick, I know you don't watch After Sun, but on After Sun last night, they mentioned movie night is upon us, and we want you to go to our Love Island USA Instagram, and there will be a link for you to nominate clips that you want to be shown on movie night.

Dad: Okay. I'll leave that in your capable hands.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't think I even need to do I think people already kind of know what needs to be shown, but that I thought was interesting because there have been times where we're watching movie night where I'm like, well, where was this clip?

Dad: Right. Right. They leave out a lot of things.

Isabella: Yeah. So, oh, KC and Corbin are gonna get torn up at movie night. I can't wait for that. Wrapping up that point oh, you know what was funny that Kenzie did say? I have one quote.

When that letter came in, she was in the confessional. She goes, The card stunk. It smelled like ass.

Dad: That was good. She does have some of the best sayings.

Isabella: She's got good one liners for sure. So wrapping up those two, Kenzie did couple up with Dylan. Corbin brought back Parmida, who Parmida is gorgeous, by the way.

Dad: Agreed.

Isabella: The best part of the episode was when Corbin came in with Parmida, and the entire group of Villa Girls go, Boo, Corbin, tomato, tomato, tomato, boo. That was so funny, I laughed out loud.

Dad: Is that a thing where if you say tomato, it's like the verbal equivalent of throwing tomatoes?

Isabella: Correct.

Dad: Is that a known thing? I'd okay.

Isabella: Guess that's a my generation I thing remember that from SpongeBob. From like SpongeBob being upstage or up on stage and everyone in the audience is throwing tomatoes at him.

Dad: Well, right, but really throwing tomatoes. I didn't know that you could verbally the equivalent of throwing just by saying tomatoes.

Isabella: Yeah. I thought maybe you'd have a question about that. But, yeah, that is that's what that means. Yeah. That was a great part of the episode.

Now, else about Kenzie, Corbin? Nope. How about Melanie and Sincere?

Dad: I have a couple of random comments. I think one you're gonna already cover.

Isabella: Go ahead.

Dad: Him saying that it's the epitome. Mhmm. I at first, I was I I liked your post bring you know, open the schools again. But on the other hand, he's saying a word that he's probably read. So I've got to give him credit that he's reading something that at least says epitome in it.

The fact that he doesn't know how to pronounce it, he's ahead of someone that doesn't even know that word exists. When he says that, I bet you people turn and look like, what is he talking about? Not just because he mispronounced it, but I have to give him at least partial credit that he knows a pretty decent word.

Isabella: Okay. Well, how about this? Does he get credit for saying, I want to emerge myself in this experience?

Dad: No. Okay.

Isabella: Because I was gonna say, I don't think that's the same kind of thing.

Dad: The only other comment I had about him was I was surprised to learn that he knows American Sign Language, that he minored in it, but it struck me as a little bit odd that if he minored in it, he was not he said, I think this is a. And it's the first letter of the alphabet. That's like minoring in accounting and not knowing the difference between a debit or a credit. Right? It's sort of basic.

You should be pretty confident that you know how to do the a.

Isabella: Well, to your point, I think there have been some people on social media that are, like, ASL people that have come out and said, that's not completely correct. So I can't completely verify that, but I've heard that. So, yeah, I think he was I think that's another one of his little ploys to get women. One thing I wanna say about Sincere, just a random comment, I loved it when Sydney came in and called him Lord Farquaad.

Dad: Think she was thinking of something else.

Isabella: I don't know if she was, because what else would be I thought I just thought that was hilarious.

Dad: I thought she said it as kind of a compliment, but I don't think it is a compliment. It's

Isabella: not as

Dad: bad as calling him Shrek.

Isabella: If you know who Lord I think I'd rather be called Shrek than Lord Farquaad.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Lord Farquaad is the villain of Right. He's the short guy. Like, yes. So you don't want to be him. I I do remember what I was gonna say about Sincere.

Sincere sucks, yes. But I do have to give him credit, and I know the bar is so low, for not dogging on Melanie the whole time. Like not talking badly about her, not disrespecting her. Yeah, he disrespected her by kissing Amora a million times and telling her all of what she wanted to hear, which that's his problem. He needs to grow up and be honest with these women and not just tell them all the same exact thing when you're just gonna run back to Melanie.

I still give him credit for not disrespecting her and calling her out of her name or anything. I think Melanie was so unbelievably rational in Casa Amor. She was the one telling all these girls, like, hey, let your guys do it, because you're watching it now, and you know that once you get out of the villa, if they're doing this now, they're gonna be doing even worse at the clubs.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I love that she said that, that she was like, guys, don't be so upset. This is a good thing that we're finding out this information. Of course, she's talking a big game and then going back with sincere, so it sucks.

Dad: But Completely foreseeable.

Isabella: Yeah. I had I had more hope for her. I did. I once I saw her kiss Corey too, and it was her decision to kiss Corey, I did have hope, but I do think in the very back of my mind, was like, she's not gonna she's gonna go back with sincere. So that's all I really have to say about them.

I love I I do like that she went off on him and told him, like, how disrespectful it is that you're kissing other girls and biting on her lip. Great. But it's not really gonna hit when you're still with him. So that's all I have about Melanie and Sincere. The last thing I wanted to say about the couples, Caleb and Jaden, I think her name is.

They're cute. I like how Caleb was talking about how he misses the Villa Girls. I thought that was sweet. He's like, don't have a romantic connection with any of them, but I just miss them. And then them all applauding when he came in with his new girl.

It's sweet. So I like him a lot. And besides a couple random things.

Dad: Go ahead.

Isabella: Alright. Well, there was another quote that I thought was funny. When when they brought in the boat of all the 12 men and they had it kind of sail by the Casa Amor Right. Bryce looks out there and goes, oh my gosh, there are like six Corbins. I thought that was so funny.

Let's see. We talked about TiTi versus the Villa Girls. I think Parmida came in a little bit on Smoke too. I mean, I don't remember exactly what she said, but she wasn't super nice. And the Villa girls were being very nice about her.

They were booing Corbin, but they did all say, they said, she's gorgeous. Like, that girl's beautiful. Right. Nothing wrong with her.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: He's the problem. So I don't know how these villain girls and the cast of girls are gonna get along. I think it's gonna be interesting to see.

Dad: We'll find out tonight.

Isabella: Yes. Yeah. And then the last thing is there's some conspiracy theories online, which I think we've talked about outside of this context, that during that argument between TiTi and Trinity, it looks like Melanie and Kenzie were removed from the fire pit. So we are wondering was that argument a little more intense than it appeared? Did it maybe get a little bit I don't think it would have gotten physical, but maybe Melanie stood up and maybe got a little closer and maybe they felt that there was a threat of violence, so they removed her and Kenzie.

I have no idea what Kenzie did, but that I would like to know because how come we're able to see all this nasty sucking on toes and all these challenges are disgusting, but they're gonna cut out an argument that's just not cool, if true.

Dad: Right. Especially because there's never been a hint of any violence in the seasons I've watched. Mm-mm. And you're right. And this goes to my one remaining comment is that the raise the temperature challenge was so lame when they were split up between Casa Amor and the Villa.

And I hate the games in general, but it was so raunchy that they couldn't even show all of it. If you noticed, they had to cut out and they kept showing the faces and the reactions of the people who were not involved at the time. And your mother and I just kept looking at each other like, oh my god, it's so nasty.

Isabella: I just I can't even watch parts of these challenges anymore. I like to listen if there's something that someone says that might come up later, but yeah. This challenge specifically where they were compete competing with the other villa, it was hard to watch.

Dad: Well, especially if they showed as much foot sucking has been on USA, think about how raunchy it had to be for them to not show it, and they only hinted at it a couple times. I mean, come on.

Isabella: And also, what is up with the toe sucking? That's not been a thing on others. This is a new thing, and I think we need to stop normalizing it.

Dad: Is that it for USA?

Isabella: That's all I got for Love Island all around.

Dad: Okay. So I'm going to go with airing of grievances. It's a reference to an old Seinfeld Festivus joke, because a couple of these relate to Love Island at least. First of all, the Peacock app user interface is incredibly annoying. Almost every other app, when you go to it, it's resume watching, continue watching, and it goes immediately to the next show.

Peacock is if you're not careful, you go to episode one every time, and you have to go through these sub menus. I know this sounds pretty cranky, but it's just annoying, and I can't be the only one that's annoyed with it.

Isabella: I completely agree with you.

Dad: The second one, I just I got tired of listening to this love languages bullshit because I was like, where did that come from? No one said that when I was young, and I decided to do a little digging, and probably people who listen already know this, but I hadn't paid attention to it. It comes from a single guy, not single unmarried. A Baptist pastor and marriage counselor from North Carolina wrote a book. His hypothesis, which that's what it is, it's just a hypothesis or a thesis, is that of the entire spectrum of love, they can all be boiled down to five, not six, not four, five different love languages.

And that each person has their own primary love language, and that if you respond to your partner in their preferred love language, you'll have a better relationship. That just sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. So I looked into it, and there's very little science to back it up. There's plenty of studies that have been done that show that none of it is true, that people have a variety of love languages, and the results of speaking to someone in their preferred love language could be explained in a variety of other ways. So I just I don't know how this became a worldwide phenomenon that everyone knows to ask what's your love language.

I just think it's BS. Then

Isabella: Really quick, I just want to say I think you're taking it a little bit too I don't think it's a serious it's not a scientific thing, you know?

Dad: But they treat it like it is. It it's in every one of the shows. Every time a bombshell comes in, someone says, what's your love language? I'm like, who why would anyone even ask that unless they thought it was a real thing?

Isabella: I think it just it's just common sense to me, like, how do you like to show love and how do you like to receive love? Like, for example, I think mom likes to receive love in acts of services. You know?

Dad: Right. But she'd be the first one to say, I like all of them or none of them. None of them describe you well. Yeah. And That's that's the point is that his hypothesis is everyone has one.

Isabella: Yeah. That's just not

Dad: This is bogus.

Isabella: Yeah. That's bogus for sure. But I do think that each type, like, it makes sense to me, you know?

Dad: Right. My last two are kind of veering off of the topic of reality television. One, I'm not perfect with grammar, but a lot of the things that are said on the shows catch my attention. One is I seen it. I seen it.

That happened a couple times with sincere. It's I have seen it or I saw it. Okay?

Isabella: So That might be a little bit more AAVE, African American vernacular.

Dad: It's not limited to that because it's on my hunting forum. And then capital I apostrophe s is not a word. You cannot describe ownership of something by saying Bryson I's friendship. That's not real. It it it that is a very common one.

Again, I have my own problems with grammar, so I know people in glass houses can't throw stones. Last one, totally random. Self awareness. When you're in the airport, I don't care if you walk slow. You're If walking in front of me, just stay in your lane.

Don't walk don't, like, meander. If I'm I wanna try to pass you. Don't, like, start veering off. Just stay in one straight line so I know how to walk past you. That's it.

Isabella: Totally. What does the airport have anything to do with reality television?

Dad: I just was thinking I'm gonna be airing grievances, so I might as well throw this out there.

Isabella: Okay. Yeah. No. That's totally valid. I think that's valid even outside of airports.

Slow walkers, stay to your like, stay on the side or something.

Dad: At least stay in one predictable path.

Isabella: Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Totally. I'm with you.

I'm with you on most of those.

Dad: Do you wanna mix it up a little bit and go with Outlast Jungle first?

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I I don't have any notes on that, but I definitely wanna say I really, really enjoyed the show. I think this is what this this is the kind of show that Survivor should want to be, and that's no hate to Survivor, I like Survivor, but this is like an actual survival show.

Like, these people went days without water. They couldn't they didn't have fire for like ten days. That's it it was yeah. It was really good. It was a lot of interesting human nature stuff.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: There were a couple of girls that I felt really bad for. One girl was on a team with all men, all kind of toxic masculinity men that were telling her that she's worthless, just being nasty to her. That was hard to watch. Yeah. Otherwise, great show.

I don't think we should share any spoilers.

Dad: No. No. But it's it's on Netflix. We're talking about it. In part, we were both watching it, but one of our listeners, a cousin, Pierre, also goes by PA the GOAT.

He put in a request. Sure. Shout out. And I only had a couple things. Wow.

The the way they set the rules or the very the the fact that there were so few rules was really good. It helped create a lot of drama. The fact that no host ever appeared. I think Jason Bateman is an executive producer. I kept hoping that he would come in by helicopter at the end, in part in part because people said I look like him or act like him.

And then the it's a million bucks, so it's 10 times as much money as Love Island. And then, let's see, there are a couple quotes. This kid Brett calling Leah an airhead, thought was pretty ironic. And there's some just interesting vote outs, and that's about it. But if you haven't seen it, it's worth watching.

Isabella: Definitely worth watching. A lot of toxic masculinity on this show, but also a lot of really impressive strong women. That's what kinda kept me in it, was the the women. They were, I mean, they were awesome. I could never do anything like that.

I couldn't even do Survivor, and Survivor's kind of like wimpy nowadays. So, yeah. That I do really like survival kind of shows. Throwback to Bear Grylls. Loved that guy.

Dad: Alone?

Isabella: I don't really watch Alone actually, but I've I've watched a couple seasons of that with you and mom. So, yeah, I know what that is.

Dad: Well, in the pantheon of survival shows, they're they are alone. There's no camera crew with them. They have to record themselves. They do get checked on weekly for medical reasons, but they're by themselves. And, you you could really die out there.

And they have an emergency alert beacon, but if some something could happen and that's not gonna make any difference.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: Okay. What do you wanna do next?

Isabella: Should we talk about RHOA?

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: Atlanta?

Dad: Sure. And this week, I I actually I won't say I enjoyed it. I'm still not a fan of the current season, but I did pay attention. There were things that I noticed that were positive.

Isabella: Yeah. I think my my kind of main thing with Atlanta right now is sometimes I just forget what they're even fighting about.

Dad: That's what I have in my notes. I can't even remember all the beefs. When they at the end of the episode, when they're all pointing fingers and yelling at each other, I'm completely lost.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: And I don't care.

Isabella: Well, yeah. K. Michelle. K. Michelle. She, I think, unfortunately, has an addiction to plastic surgery. And I Seems like don't say that lightly.

I mean, what it what it what was the number she said? She She said I'm on my, like, fifteenth ass. Is that

Dad: Yes. That sounds familiar.

Isabella: Like, put the implants down, girl. It's it's honestly sad. So that was, yeah, that's tough. I I really don't ever have anything serious to say about the show. Like, I liked Porsha teaching Drew how to eat wings properly.

I also noticed that Porsha's a flats girl. We love that. You hate that. I love that.

Dad: I'm not a huge flats person, but when she ate those, it reminded me of a friend of mine on the West Coast. She eats wings the same way. There's nothing left. When I mean nothing, there's only bone, not a single bit of gristle. And that's why when Porsha pulled that bone out of her mouth, said, see, that's how Julie does it.

Isabella: Yeah. I can't do that. I don't like that. I'm gonna leave a little bit on there, but I thought it was funny. And Kelly playing basketball in heels, just like a bunch of ridiculous stuff.

Dad: The whole basketball game skit was stupid. It it was desperate for something to fill the time.

Isabella: Yeah. And like like I mentioned, I at the end of the basketball game when they're all kind of gathering around arguing, clearly Shamea was really upset about something. I still don't really know what it is. Like, the Shamea, and I think it's Angela

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: They've lost me. I don't really remember what they're fighting about anymore. So No. I'm ready to move on from from that fight, and also to the next show, if you are?

Dad: I did have a couple quick things. One, Angela and her daughter back and forth and having the counselor actually was a good bit of television. I liked that it worked out. And then Pinky, I listened to Bravo docket again, they went into some detail about her bankruptcy filings. And usually that results in them disclosing or divulging something that's public knowledge that has not been shown on the show.

That's not the case. So I thought that there was gonna be a whole lot of tea that came out of it. No. So there's not anything hidden or surprising that I found out. Then I was talking down about Kelly when they were showing her looking at that house and going through the financial consultant and how much money she was spending.

I said to your mom, she's going to be bankrupt too. Mark my words. And then she threw a ringer in it. She threw a spanner in the works. And she said, I'm not going to get this house.

Her real estate agent gave her some hard truths, and she said, Okay, I've got to button down and stay within my budget. So I thought, Oh, wow. Okay. Maybe I'm wrong. Your mom refers to her as the little bitty one because we couldn't think of her name at the time.

Isabella: That's cute.

Dad: And that's it. That's all I have for Atlanta.

Isabella: Did you notice that where they were when they were looking at that house? I'm not gonna say the exact area that we live in, but

Dad: It was close.

Isabella: It was close.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Sure was close. So I guess that's Atlanta. Should we move on to Rhode Island?

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: I actually didn't I was surprised I thought I was gonna have more to say about Rhode Island. My first thing is Rulla's nose job.

Dad: Wow. It's like a ski ramp.

Isabella: It's like when you watch the Winter Olympics and they have the long ski jump. Yeah.

Dad: Some might say that was the before picture. That's bad. But I only wrote down that I'm on Jo Ellen's side in the fight that she had. Your mother was definitely on Rula's side. How can you be on rule aside?

Really? It's like, Jo Ellen just wants attention. I said, no. She just is right and will never back down and wants to prove she's right, like someone we both know. And I I didn't think that Jo Ellen was saying anything wrong.

I just thought that Rula is Dulula, and the people supporting her just don't like Jo Ellen.

Isabella: Yeah. I generally have noticed myself taking taking Jo Ellen's side in a lot of scenarios. I also was on her side in the fight with Liz.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: And this is another kind of I I know what this fight started from, and it was that the whole Alicia homeless comment at the little Frank Sinatra thing, whatever. Liz, like, pulled her hair and whatnot. I I know that's how it started, but at this point, I kind of, again, don't really know what they're fighting about anymore. Like, yes, they're bringing these things up, but they're also bringing other stuff up that I'm like, what is that how is that relevant?

Dad: They're vicious. I mean, the the back and forth on episode one, it's gonna make episode two of the reunion pretty good.

Isabella: Yeah. Will say, even though I don't have a ton to say about it, it was one of the better part ones I've seen in a while. Agreed. Oftentimes the part ones are pretty like kinda setting it up, and they're kinda boring. So I did think it was good.

Alicia, I wrote down Alicia told someone to get over herself. Do we remember who it was?

Dad: No.

Isabella: Okay. I also wrote down devil hands? Someone said someone had devil hands.

Dad: I don't remember that.

Isabella: Oh, god. That's gonna bother me because I thought that was a good line. I think it was maybe Alicia. Alicia to it might have even been Liz. Because Alicia and Liz did kind of get into it a little bit again, even though we know they're close.

They did get into little bit. So I think it was Alicia saying that somebody has devil hands. I don't know. Who was really getting into it at the end when we kind of had a cliffhanger? It was it was Rula and Jo Ellen again, think.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: And Jo Ellen said, your husband's a slut. Rula said, you sleep with doctors. And that's kind of how the end episode ended.

Dad: Yes. It it almost sounded like Rula was getting ready to show receipts because Jo Ellen said, prove it. Let's see it.

Isabella: Yeah. I would like to see that proof.

Dad: Agreed.

Isabella: Because Jo Ellen is married. Right?

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So, yeah, that'd be interesting. That's all I got for Rhode Island.

Dad: Same.

Isabella: Okay. I I have one thing to say about Below Deck Med.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Are you caught up on that? Yes. We've got a lot of a lot of hookups going on right now, but the big thing I want to say is they've got a guest right now who is like an all timer bad guy.

Dad: Oh, the one that says I'm worth $500,000,000 and he pays his now ex girlfriend 12,500 a month?

Isabella: Yeah. And he shows up and he's immediately nasty as soon as he shows up. You can tell he's upset that maybe he and his girlfriend got in an argument. His girlfriend ends up leaving the boat. They have to get her on what do they call it?

Not the dinghy, but the

Dad: Tender.

Isabella: The tender. They get her on the tender and bring her back to land. And that man's girlfriend, she completely left. And he is continuing to pick a fight with Nathan the bosun . Yeah.

Good episode all around.

Dad: Ends with a cliffhanger.

Isabella: Yeah. So we'll see. We'll have more on that. Oh, and he also wants to pay a girl

Dad: To come.

Isabella: From Croatia Right. To come join him. And she's like, I can't. I have a job. He says, I'll pay you however much money.

Dad: Yes. He he says he's on the phone with his lawyer. And what kind of lawyer is working on projects to help him get a girl to someplace in the Mediterranean?

Isabella: Yeah. I don't know. You well, sometimes these insanely rich people are have weird ways of doing things. So I'm liking that season so far. I think it's gonna be good.

You know, anything with Aesha on it is gonna be entertaining.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So anything on In the City?

Dad: I didn't take any notes from In the City.

Isabella: Did you watch

Dad: it I did this this weekend. Yeah. This week, yes.

Isabella: Well, I thought it was not I know I don't like Kenny. I've had issues with Kenny. I thought him reuniting with his dad was sweet. I think that Kenny's best friend that they're getting into arguments with, I think Kenny's friend is jealous of Kenny's girlfriend.

Dad: He's definitely got an issue.

Isabella: Yeah. So that's bizarre. And we also got confirmation that Kyle did cheat on Amanda multiple times. Of course, that's coming from Amanda, but at the time, I don't think like, I think she was still trying to make it work. So I I believe it.

Dad: There was one he he's admitted to.

Isabella: Oh, yes. For sure. But I don't think he's admitted to everything. Right. So she mentioned multiple occasions.

So that's in the city.

Dad: Wanna do the valley?

Isabella: Let's do the valley. I don't have much to say, but

Dad: I'll lead with that. I think that it was better this week because there was a lot more drama. They were on a vacation to Mexico. Boy, I do agree in general when they say, hey, everyone gets drunk and does things, but Danny is just so annoying. I could not stand to be around him if he was drunk.

It would just bother me to no end. I'd rather have someone get really angry like the others do when they get drunk. And then Jack. Yes. He's he's fine.

I but Janet, I I don't she's a very smart person, but she's just not listening. I think all they want her and they're not great at asking her for what she should apologize for. She should just say, I'm sorry for using the term sexual assault because that carries with it a legal definition, and she's not in a position to determine whether it was or wasn't sexual assault. But she keeps saying, I'm not going to apologize because he did do those actions. Okay, just say, I think he did something inappropriate, but maybe I was a little bit aggressive in saying that that's what it was.

Isabella: Yeah. I I agree with that. I definitely see both sides to that argument. I think Danny is very inappropriate, especially when he's drinking, and other people have mentioned that too, so I think that that's legit. But yeah, I do think that Janet could probably butt out of it a little bit more.

One thing I did write down was Danny saying that he has PTSD. I don't now I'm not gonna sit here and say, like, he for sure does not have PTSD, but I do find it a little bit hard to believe. I think he's using a mental disorder as an excuse, and it's I don't think it's legit.

Dad: It's certainly going to piss off people who have PTSD Like

Isabella: acts yeah.

Dad: From Right. In Right. At least one of whom I know who had never watched any of these shows or listened into this podcast, but I think that that would irk him at at a minimum.

Isabella: Yeah. I just thought it was a little bit insensitive for especially considering what he's talking about that, okay, you were caught being inappropriate with another woman. That's, like, that's on

Dad: you. Right.

Isabella: So I do think next episode's gonna be interesting. I keep saying interesting, but anyways. Because Kristen, in defending Danny and Nia, mentioned that if anybody needs to stop drinking, it's Britney and Zach. And we see Janet run to Janet and Zach, not to Britney and Zach, to tell them what Kristen said. So that's gonna be drama for next episode.

I'm interested to see how that plays out.

Dad: Right. I just have a couple of quick things on McBee Dynasty if we're done with In the City. Yes. Okay. One, Steven's girlfriend, I think she wants to be on television, so that's why she's the new girlfriend for those who are watching.

And then, wow, the current girlfriend and the former girlfriend of the patriarch who's not shown on the the season because he's going to prison, He's not yet in prison, but he's not shown on the show anymore. The two ladies are Galina and Masha. And, yes, there is Russian ethnicity there, and, boy, they go at it. They mess with each other, and it's just getting started. These two ladies.

And it's not made up because one has gone to jail twice, and it's it's just gonna get messier. So stay tuned for more.

Isabella: Alright. That's it's definitely on my list, but

Dad: But you would have to go back and catch up with two more seasons.

Isabella: I would. And with Love Island right now, it's not the right time, so I'm gonna get there eventually.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: But yeah, I think you're probably gonna be covering it a little bit more. I do want to mention we have Big Brother starting soon. I don't think I'm gonna cover it a ton, but I will be watching it. So anybody who is also watching it, if you want me to talk about it more, let us know. Send us a DM, send us a message.

And that goes for all reality shows. If there's something that you think is interesting, you think we would like, you think would be a fun show to start, let us know. DM us.

Dad: Oh, I got a suggestion by another cousin yesterday. She said the six hundred pound sisters or six hundred

Isabella: Oh, God.

Dad: Because they're from where my cousin lives. I asked if it's current, and she said, no, they're on whatever season. So I don't know if it's if you've seen that or not. It sounds like one that I would probably avoid.

Isabella: There's so much on TLC that we don't really get into that we could, but it's a lot.

Dad: Yep. Did we have one more on Bravo, Next Gen NYC? Anything?

Isabella: Did we not talk about

Dad: Next We did Gen not.

Isabella: No. Okay. Well, let's talk about Next Gen NYC then.

Dad: Okay. I'll start. I'm not a fan of Ava.

Isabella: Yes. She's clearly a villain, at least So right

Dad: far. So far. Then I still like Charlie, necessarily as a person, but for the television show. I do think he's probably becoming friends with What's Her Face's ex boyfriend because he's wealthy.

Isabella: For sure. For sure.

Dad: And then I think that Georgia is pretty funny. And then one question, the I think it was Georgia who was talking about she heard through the gay grapevine. Is that real? Is that a is that a real thing?

Isabella: Okay. I've never heard of it before, but I also don't really have a ton of gay friends, so maybe maybe it's a thing.

Dad: Well, loved how production was kind of making fun of her because she was talking about how extensive and you have to keep it to yourself, and she has contacts around the world. It's beyond CIA level. So they're playing all these graphics on the side of her confessional that are just clearly making fun of her explanation of how the grapevine works.

Isabella: Well, was trying to figure out if she was even being serious. Like, I thought she was kind of joking.

Dad: It's hard to tell with her. She's very deadpan, so she could be just being completely tongue in cheek, but if she is, she's she's got a great poker face.

Isabella: There was another thing that she said that I wrote down. When she is at this bar talking

Dad: to

Isabella: a guy that I'm pretty sure she just met, he says, how are you doing?

Dad: Oh, yes.

Isabella: She says, fighting I was fighting for my life on the toilet last night. Sorry. Who says that to someone they just met?

Dad: Maybe she's trying to run them away.

Isabella: Maybe. I hope that's what it is because what? Oh, also another Georgia thing. This goes back to we're not educated well enough. She doesn't know where Missouri is.

She doesn't know where Kansas City is. It's bringing me back to the New Hampshire thing

Dad: I think that's left a little bit more excusable because Kansas City being in a different state than Kansas could throw someone off.

Isabella: I get it, but to say the first thing she said was, I don't know where Missouri is.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: I get it, it's Middle America, but I would think, I don't know. Am I am I being too harsh?

Dad: She might also have been being flippant.

Isabella: Maybe. Yeah. The other thing that Georgia was saying was she thought that the breakup between Ariana and Hudson was for the cameras. She was saying that openly to everybody else.

Dad: Several people, including Ava.

Isabella: Yeah. So valid thought, but I don't think I think if you've been following the Biermanns for a while, you would know that Hudson and Ariana have been on and off since high school. So I don't think it's just a breakup for the cameras.

Dad: Well, and I don't understand what they think is to be gained, because if they broke up, was a risk that he wouldn't stay on the show. True. Because I think that he was only on because of her.

Isabella: Yeah. And I also think he's maybe if he wasn't friends with Charlie, I think they would have considered not keeping him on the show.

Dad: Could be.

Isabella: Because he he didn't really add much to the show last season besides just being Ariana's boyfriend.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So we'll see. Maybe maybe we'll see more from Hudson. But I I do think Ava's going to be the villain. I'm interested to see how it plays out with her and Gia and Ariana. Right.

I think they were getting ready to have a pretty significant argument, so I'm excited for that.

Dad: And back to me not remembering the names, Candy's daughter, who's off on tour or something, when she comes back, what's her name?

Isabella: Riley. And I missed Riley this episode. Like, she's one of my favorite people on the show. I think she's great comedic relief.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: I missed her a lot in episode one.

Dad: It'll be interesting to see how she is involved in that back and forth, if at all.

Isabella: I also am really, really hoping that because Ariana and Riley are such good friends, I need them to bring Candy and Kim back together. Like, I I need it to happen. I know it's gotten close. I need it to happen on camera.

Dad: You can hope.

Isabella: You can hope. So I think that's

Dad: kind of

Isabella: all we got. Yeah. I don't think we have much time for a game, but we will definitely make sure to include a game next time. Again, let us know if you have any comments, any ideas for us, any new shows. Please rate and review, and we will see you next time.

Dad: Thanks.

"I was in nursing school, bro" - LUISA, LUIK and more

Isabella "I watch this show for mess" and her dad cover Love Island USA (including the lack of bombshells), play "Boomer or British?" again, then talk about Love Island UK, Summer House (the aftermath), In the City, Real Housewives of Atlanta and Rhode Island. Dad also pitches Isabella on starting to watch McBee Dynasty ("I think it's horrible… and I've watched every episode. I hate myself for doing it."), and Isabella tests whether her father can recognize three Bravolebrities.

Welcome back to Check Me Boomer.

Dad: Welcome.

Isabella: This is our third episode. Today, we're gonna be covering both Love Islands, USA, Love Island, UK. We're gonna cover Summerhouse, a little bit in the city, Real Housewives of Atlanta. Then we're gonna do the Rhode Island finale. And you have a show you wanna pitch me on.

Dad: McBee Dynasty.

Isabella: Yes. And then we have, if time allows, we have another boomer or British, and then I have another little guessing game for you.

Dad: Okay. Where do you wanna start?

Isabella: I say let's start with Love Island, USA. Okay. What do you think? I do wanna give context that today is Sunday. It is Father's Day.

Happy Father's Day, dad.

Dad: Thank you.

Isabella: Happy Father's Day to all the fathers that might be listening. I know we have a few. And for context, we have not watched Sunday's episode of UK, but we are caught up on USA, including After Sun. Yes. So I think maybe we should kind of start back at the beginning of the week for USA, just kind of go through it.

Dad: Maybe just the highlights.

Isabella: Yeah, the highlights, of course.

Dad: I think it was a little bit boring this week in the

Isabella: Love Island Yeah. I agree. There's definitely some things that we can discuss. There's been a lot of online discourse and arguments and all, so we can get into that a little bit and just see if how how if we if we agree or disagree.

Dad: Okay. Let's go.

Isabella: So where we left off was the America's re coupling. So now we have Sol and Sincere as a couple, and Kenzie and Caleb as a couple. So first off, do we have any thoughts on those new couplings? Like, how do we feel just all around about those? Meh.

Yeah. I think Kenzie and Caleb, it's it's been very clear over the course of the week that she doesn't really like him. I think she she likes the idea of him, but it's very clear she likes Corbin more. We'll go into Corbin and Kenzie and all that, of course, as well. Sol and Sincere, I think that's Sincere's fault.

I mean, America put him with Sol because of the way he was treating her, telling her the whole, oh my gosh, this is love at first sight, all that. So I think they made sense at the time.

Dad: They did, and they actually seemed calmer when they interacted as opposed to the fiery back and forth between Sincere and Melanie. But that was, again, to your point, his doing, not hers.

Isabella: Mhmm. Yeah. So For

Dad: the most part, except for when she reacted in prior episodes, had a little bit she she was a little over the top.

Isabella: Yeah. I will say she's calmed down a lot. I'm gonna give her a lot of credit for that. She didn't really freak out about the whole re coupling. Obviously, she was upset, But I think she deserves some credit for, like, not going crazy on Sol and just kind of letting it play out.

I did think it was weird that she didn't wanna sleep in the bed with Corbin. Like, I guess that's her own personal decision, but that seemed a little bit dramatic to me.

Dad: Yes. Especially given the setup of the show. Everyone knows you're gonna be sleeping with who you're coupled with. It's not like he did something wrong where in prior seasons someone has split up as a penalty, but whatever. It was her choice.

Isabella: Yeah. So a lot of the online discourse right now is coming from Kenzie. A lot of people are upset in the way she's going about Love Island. I do think she did lead Caleb on. I mean, she's kissing him all over that villa.

She's she is, for the most part, being honest about how she feels about Corbin, but still kind of kissing Caleb and not I don't think she's really being fully honest there. And then, of course, we had the secret kiss in the bedroom that people are upset about. But here's the thing, I watch this show for mess, so that was entertaining to me. I know, if you've seen this show before, that that's gonna come out later. So that's what we want.

That's what we wanna see. We wanna be looking forward to movie night. I don't Absolutely. I say let her do it. Let her have fun.

Yeah. She might be selfish. She might be leading people on, but that's what this show is for. So I don't think she deserves all the hate she's getting. So should we move on to Casey and Anaya had a little bit of a rough week this week.

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: And I'm personally blaming Casey for that. I think he clearly wants to get to know Sol, and I don't I think he's a little bit scared of Anaya. Like, he's scared of how she's gonna react. So I did think it was funny how Casey ended up pulling Sol when Anaya was kind of already in the middle of a conversation. I'm I'm pretty sure he was confronting Zach for something, and I can't I can't even remember why.

But I do know that he he pulled Sol when Anaya was preoccupied, and then when Anaya realized that that's what was happening, Anaya did go interrupt that conversation. So go ahead. I I

Dad: don't know that it's all his fault here because she is saying the right things like, oh, okay. I don't mind. Yes. We're open. We should explore.

But then her face is just got that look on it and her body language is clearly saying, uh-uh. You better not. And so he's reading it and seeing mixed signals. On the other hand, he could just be like Gabe and just proceed. The show is set up for this kind of interaction, and he shouldn't be afraid.

So it's it's on both of them, I think.

Isabella: Yeah. I think that's a good point. I should have mentioned that I do think it's Casey maybe not being as honest as he wants to be, but yes, Anaya is kind of giving him mixed signals and saying that that's okay, you should explore, versus going over and crying about it right after. Like, it's so tough with these two. I think they're both kind of at fault.

For the first part of the week before the little letters re coupling, was like, oh, they're gonna be fine. They're gonna figure it out. It's just a lack it's just a miscommunication here. And they their letters were amazing. I mean, they were so sweet.

It, like, made me tear up. But I will say after that, I do feel like there is some disconnect between them. I think that their communication styles are different. Yeah. I'm not sure that they're gonna last.

I'm rooting for them, but I'm just not sure that their communication styles are lining up there. So we'll see what happens. Of course, we do have Casa Amore coming up. So I have a few predictions for that, but let's let's wait on that. I gotta I still got a few things to discuss.

Anything else on USA? Casey and Anaya? No. Okay. We also had Zach and Kayda in the hideaway this week, which is fine.

What I didn't like to see was Zach in the hideaway saying, oh, well, are you gonna be mad? Like, you gonna kill me if I go talk to a Bombshell?

Dad: I saw that and at first I thought I had the same reaction as you. Uh-oh. What is he doing? But then, I think because the way they edit, it's hard to see whether they kind of mess with each other a little bit because she did say too soon, and so in a broader context, maybe they had been joking around more broadly, and then it wasn't as bad as shown on the actual episode.

Isabella: I think that's definitely possible. I just I do think it's something to point out because it's not the first time he said something like that. Like, he said that before. And there are there's some online discourse about that too. That like, oh, Kayda forced him into something he didn't wanna do.

I don't really think that's what happened, but we don't need to get into all that. I bring that up because we see in this most recent episode that Kayda is now talking to Caleb. And Zack is kind of losing his mind over there, being like, why are they talking so long? Like, I don't know about this. Like, should I go interrupt?

He's just you can tell he's very bothered, which of course he is. I mean, look at Kayda. But I thought that was a little bit ironic that now now that Kayda's exploring, now you're upset even though you were already into this imaginary bombshell that hasn't even come in yet.

Dad: We'll see. I I think it might be Much Ado About Nothing. She did admit that she likes when someone's jealous.

Isabella: That's true. That's true. And and Zach is acting jealous, so maybe this is all just a ploy to get that out of Zach. But I actually would love to see Kayda and Caleb together. I think that it'd be I don't know.

I think they'd be cute. And I do I do want Caleb to find someone.

Dad: Right. But with Casa Amor starting today or tonight, it's not gonna be set up that way. Yeah. So it's unfortunate, but we'll see.

Isabella: Yeah. Of course, these are all thoughts I had before we knew it was Casa Amor. So now that we know it's Casa Amor, yeah, Kayda and Caleb are not gonna work out. There's just not enough time.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So speaking of Casa Amor, well, I should mention Gabe and Sol did get dumped. I think Sol was the right move. I think Gabe was the wrong move. I think it should've been Caleb, even though, yes, I know everybody feels bad for Sol and Caleb because they didn't really get a good shot, but that's how the show goes. Gabe had a connection.

I think it was not fair to send him home. So I'm I'm not on the girls' side with that. Do you agree, disagree?

Dad: I agree. And I like how Zach used their logic against them and showed if we had done the same thing, here's who would have been voted out on your side. Yeah. But I I also it was almost like a British moment where the the clips in advance definitely showed the controversy made out to be a big deal. And then they got around the fire pit, Zach said something, they got a little bit upset, he said, see, I'm not angry.

I'm just using your logic. And then they settled it, and they had a group hug. It was over. It's it's almost like they're watching Love Island UK to figure out how to manage conflict resolution.

Isabella: Yeah. I also I do feel like and this is kind of going into just, like, how the show like, the logistics of the show. I sometimes wonder if they just don't have enough time to edit it in the way to make it more dramatic than it really is, but we don't know that. So

Dad: Speaking of production questions, this is where I'm gonna jump in. One of the topics we talked about yesterday is how few bombshells there have been on USA in comparison to UK. I had assumed that production had some level of flexibility in that if they spotted lack of drama alert, we need to insert more Bombshells that they just kinda have them on standby and at the ready. But it doesn't seem like that's the case. It seems like they must be scheduled, and that's why part of the reason I thought the entire week overall was completely boring.

I only wrote two things in my notes to bring up, neither of which I've mentioned so far. And I'd love to get the backstory and figure out behind the scenes some of the things that go on and some of their limitations. It might be just logistics that they don't wanna put people up in Fiji for so long and they only fly them in at the last minute and changing that would be complicated.

Isabella: Yeah. I yeah. I think they definitely try to stick to a schedule. Of course, things come up like, you know, someone might have to leave. Like we saw in UK, I think George had to leave.

Now do we know if they brought in an extra male Bombshell in his place? No. But I do think that things come up sometimes, and maybe they do have a couple people on standby just in case. But, yeah, those are all questions that we're probably not gonna ever find out because those are production secrets.

Dad: I might dig into it and see if I can find something.

Isabella: Okay. Alright. We'll see. Yeah. But but I I agree with your point that I was starting to get I mean, in Thursday and Friday episodes, I was like, are the bombshells?

Like, it's been a while. We haven't had any bombshells come in since the bed challenge. So I guess it's time for Casa Amor. Yeah. It does feel a little bit early, but I do wanna quickly go through what each of us think is gonna happen with each of these couples.

Do we think they're gonna split after Casa Amor or stay together? So we'll start with Kenzie and Caleb. Split. You know what? I could see them staying together.

Dad: But it is Kenzie and Corbin.

Isabella: Corbin. Yeah.

Dad: Oh, busted.

Isabella: Oh, yeah. I messed that one up. So, yeah. Kenzie, Corbin. I think Kenzie's gonna stay loyal.

Corbin might have a little blip, but I think they're gonna end up together. Casey and Anaya. Split. Okay. I kind of think so too.

And I don't think it's gonna be Anaya that's doing it. So, Sincere and Melanie.

Dad: Temporary split, lots of drama, arguing, and then they're back together.

Isabella: I see that too. Yeah. I could also see them not going anywhere, but knowing Sincere, I think he's gonna yeah. Think he's gonna be a problem again. Who do we have left?

Zach and Kayda.

Dad: They'll stay together.

Isabella: I think so too. I think they will. I think they like each other too much.

Dad: And on this point, this came up in After Sun last night, which I don't know if you wanna cover, but if you do, let's keep it brief. But the topic that it is a game and how Gabe made a comment that, hey, if you do this, if you're putting yourself out there, there is a risk that you're gonna get voted off. And you and someone said, well, if someone comes back to the house, they're gonna be the villain. And maybe that's part of what's going on, in that if if people are thinking this through, like Zach and Kayda, if they stay together, they're much more likely to win.

Isabella: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That is always in play. I think we don't talk about it as much because they don't talk about that part as much. But, yeah, the game part and the money part is always in play.

Dad: But one more comment on that. The money part, it's chump change. Right? It's it's a joke because what is it? 50,000 for UK, £50,000

Isabella: I think it's a 100,000

Dad: for dollars. But if they really wanted to become influencers, I don't know that winning necessarily correlates to the highest resulting monetization. That's something that I would be curious to look at because there's certainly people who have not won in the past who are doing pretty well on their own.

Isabella: I would yeah. That's a good point. I do think the public perception of you is more is the most important, which does coincide with winning in a lot of cases because it's America voting. But yeah, you cannot win and also end up being the most successful person on the show. Look at Olandria from last season.

She didn't win, and I think she just bought a penthouse apartment. She's killing it. So yeah, I'm with that. Okay. Bryce and Trinity.

Dad: I don't know. That's just a nothing burger to me.

Isabella: They are my favorite couple.

Dad: They might have a chance. It's just boring for the show. So I guess they'll stay together.

Isabella: Well, I I could see them going either way. Like, I want them to stay together, but I could see it going either way. So we'll see. And then who else do we even have? We have, of course, the singles, Caleb and Jen.

I'm really hoping Caleb finds a sweet southern girl. We'll see. Did I get all the couples?

Dad: I think that's it.

Isabella: Okay.

Dad: Obviously, if you didn't think of someone, they're not worthy of

Isabella: discussing it. I guess so. Yeah.

Dad: Let me know when you're ready for my comments.

Isabella: Oh, I have them ready. Yeah.

Dad: Okay. So this is how boring it was for me for the week. I only wrote down two things in my notes. One, I want that chicken. I think that was something that Kenzie said at some point.

I have not looked into what it means, but I just thought, what is she talking about?

Isabella: Okay.

Dad: And then this already came up with After Sun, and I'm glad that Sierra noted it and apologized for all nurses out there. Kenzie, I love her often wrong but never in doubt saying about 20/30 is better than 20/20 . I also question whether someone is really ever judged at 20/13 . I kinda think they use round numbers, 20/10 , 20/20 , 20/30 . I don't know that there's a 20/13 option.

Maybe that's something that I'm just not familiar with. But I had written down, I really don't want Kenzie to be my nurse. Sierra did

Isabella: And she could be call

Dad: her out for that.

Isabella: Because of where she lives.

Dad: Oh, well, let's not jinx my health. So

Isabella: Yeah. Well, what's funny about that is Kenzie did graduate from Kennesaw State University nursing program, which is one of the hardest to get into in the country. So I'm like, what happened, girl?

Dad: I'm not seeing her proceeding down that path for her career. I I can see her becoming an influencer.

Isabella: Yeah. I think I see that too. Yep. But we'll see.

Dad: That's all I have for USA.

Isabella: Alright. So should we move on to UK?

Dad: Sure. Do you want to do boomer or British right off the bat? There are only two.

Isabella: Let's go for it.

Dad: Okay. Boomer or British?

Isabella: Melt. Okay. In what context?

Dad: When they refer to someone, he's such a melt.

Isabella: Okay. Now He's being a melt. British.

Dad: It is. And it means being soppy or just pathetic. Mhmm. I'm sure there's a broader definition. Okay.

Next up, gagging. Bib said, you're gagging.

Isabella: Can you use it in a sentence?

Dad: I already know what the answer is, so just guess your answer.

Isabella: Okay. Well, I was gonna say neither.

Dad: Oh, there may be different uses of it, but it is British and it means you're desperate, you're really so hard pressed for something, like you're gagging for her attention.

Isabella: Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Dad: So they're both British, makes me feel better.

Isabella: Well, that's a little bit different than what I'm thinking. I'm thinking like, oh, gagged it, or like, she gags.

Dad: There is a separate connotation that's a little more lurid, if

Isabella: you Yeah.

Dad: Okay. That's it. I only had two for Boomer or British, but my overall thought was UK was way better than USA again.

Isabella: Messy. It was messy this week. I think we'll get into it, but I think some of these boys are, like, forgetting that they're on TV or something. So UK this week started with they had a little truth or dare game around the fire pit, and it ended up with the islanders voting on I think it was who is most compatible or something like that. And it ended up that Opie and Victoria got dumped.

They didn't know this was a dumping, but of course, it was. I was okay with that. Opie was starting to annoy me. I mean, he's so, like he's very sensitive, but he's also very dramatic. And he just was, maybe that's the musical theater background in him, but he was just starting to bother me, so I'm cool with him going home.

Victoria, I feel bad. I don't think she ever really got a good shot, but that's just how it goes, you know?

Dad: I was just slightly disappointed because she had connected with Sam. Yes.

Isabella: Yeah. So I felt bad for that too, because Sam, of course, has had he's had a rough ride. I did wanna introduce, I know you don't really watch Unseen Bits. I don't have much to say about Unseen Bits, but I think I do wanna do a weekly Unseen Bits MVPs. And this week I have three.

It's gonna go to Robin. Poor Robin, she's gone. Ellie, and surprisingly, after what I've just said, Opie. Opie grew on me a lot on unseen bits. He was annoying on the real episodes, but he was really funny on unseen bits.

So I'll give him some credit there. So Ellie, you're right on. She's hilarious, especially on unseen bits.

Dad: Oh, okay. Maybe I need to maybe you can just send me clips of the funny parts.

Isabella: Yeah. If I could find any. Yeah. So this week, we saw Yasmin and Lorenzo getting closer. And then and we saw kind of Aiden's reaction from that.

You can tell he's he's pretty bothered. We saw a secret terrace kiss that I don't think the others know about yet. Right?

Dad: I think you're right.

Isabella: Except for, of course, I think Sean was the one to kind of orchestrate that. So I guess he and probably Lola know. I I do see her more with Lorenzo than with Aiden, I think. But I see Lorenzo more with Jasmine, and I might have a lot of people disagreeing with me on that, but I still just kind of want these two together. I like Jasmine and Lorenzo together.

Dad: I do too, but I just think he's so aloof and that's not gonna work for her. And I don't know if he's just used to getting everything he wants that he's just so blase, or is it that he's just transparent, doesn't have a filter, he's saying exactly what's on his mind, including I really don't know. I really don't know. I don't know what it is with him, but it's starting to get annoying. I'd rather him fake it and just be a little more dramatic.

Isabella: Yeah. I see what you're saying. I haven't really gotten annoyed with him yet, but I do think that he's still kind of one of my favorite guys. I think he still is the best looking guy there. And when he and Jasmine talk, I don't know.

They just seem like it it just is so natural, and we'll see. I mean, they had another kiss in the in the kissing competition where they rank each other and give each other scores. I thought they had a good kiss there. So, yeah, we'll see what happens.

Dad: I just generally tune out during the competitions. That's when I start reading a book. Even though I'm supposed to be taking notes, I just kind of tune out.

Isabella: Well, you know, there are some competitions that are more interesting and more drama inducing. One of them is the kissing competition. I think the Snog Marry Pie, which I know you, again, have your own feelings about. I think that always causes drama though. So if you're not paying attention and you see them arguing about it later, then you're not really sure what the context is sometimes.

So usually, yes, they are a little bit boring, but I pay I wanna pay attention so I know what they're discussing early later on. Right. So this week we also saw Mika and Samraj kind of split. We saw then Mika go towards Simba, which we will discuss, and we saw Samraj go towards Priya, which we also discussed because there are some things with both of those. So going back to Aiden and Lorenzo and Yaz, that in that little love triangle.

So Yaz finally does tell Aiden that they had a kiss. And she also Aiden's, of course, getting upset, and Yasmin tells him, well, I have feelings for you. But she said something about, like, oh, well, I kissed Lorenzo because I don't have feelings for him yet, and I have feelings for you. Aiden took that back to Lorenzo and basically said, Yasmin just told me she doesn't have feelings for you. And I thought that was ridiculous.

Like, he knows exactly what he's doing there. He's trying to sabotage.

Dad: Yes. And he's one of the several people on the show who says, oh, it doesn't bother me. I'm over it, mate. And then he continues to complain about it to anyone who listens. And Jasmine is the same in other contexts, like, oh, I'm I'm done.

I'm moving on. But then just keeps talking.

Isabella: Yeah. I do like Aiden. Like, I think he's funny. I think he's a good character for the show. He just is like makes me shake my head sometimes.

I'm like, what are you doing, dude? I don't it's just ridiculous. So I wanna talk about Tommy, this Bombshell who's coupled up with Ellie. This man, I don't know what he was thinking. He kisses Ellie, and then he goes and tries this is all in the same day, by the way.

He kisses Ellie. They seem to have a good kiss. Goes and tries to kiss Priya. She says no. And then he does kiss Namibia, which I love their little nickname for her Mibs.

I think that's so cute. He did kiss her on the terrace. And then, of course, Ellie finds out. Ellie's upset. It didn't end up being a big thing.

It seems they made up really quickly, but I thought that was so weird of him. I thought I I was hoping Ellie was gonna, like, be done with him, because that's so weird.

Dad: It was good for me because it gave Ellie more screen time, And I got to hear her Scottish accent again.

Isabella: Mhmm.

Dad: Let's move on.

Isabella: Okay. So there's a theme in this show right now, and it's just a lot of moving love triangles. Like, can't even keep track of all the love triangles we've got going on. I think we've we've kind of already mentioned some of them, but let's talk about let's talk about Priya.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: I think that Priya's kind of making some waves here. It kind of seems like a lot of the girls aren't really a big fan of her. She had a little spat with Lola. So Priya and Lorenzo were coupled up. They had a kiss in bed.

And in the dressing room in the morning, she said, ladies, I just wanna let you know I had a kiss with Lorenzo last night. And Lola kinda comes at her and says, well, that's a little hypocritical because you were the one saying, like, you shouldn't be kissing multiple people in a day. So I just think that that's like, I'm gonna call you out on that. And the way Lola said it, thought it was a little bit harsh, but she's not wrong either. I don't really see the issue with Priya, but a lot of people on the show have seen an issue with Priya.

Of course, Priya is now kind of talking to Samraj. Samraj has said to the boys, oh, you know, I'm gonna I'm kind of faking it with Priya. Like, I don't really know if I like her. So I think someone mentioned I think Sam Raj mentioned that Priya has a big ego. He's kinda faking it with her.

He doesn't really wanna try. I think that's gonna come back to bite him. Like, you're on TV, dude. You should maybe tell her this. Not that she has a big ego, but just say like, hey, think we're more friends.

So back to Tommy. After Tommy kissed Ellie, he went and told I forget which boy it was, but he told one of the boys that he did not like Ellie's kiss. Do you remember this? Vaguely. So I just don't really see why there's any point in saying these kind of things when you know it's gonna come back around to bite you.

So I'm now asking myself, are these boys forgetting that they're on TV? I

Dad: think they do at some point.

Isabella: Because, yeah, the Samraj faking it. Oh, the other thing was after Angie, they had a re coupling, and Angie picked Simba. Simba was telling the boys, like, oh, I would've picked Mika. Again, that's gonna come back around to bite you. It's just not a good look.

So this is kind of the latest. They have a sleepover with four new Bombshells. They invited Yasmin, Mika, Simba, and Kavan. The standout moment from the sleepover so far is the Simba and Mika kiss. So I think that once they get back, we're gonna have an issue here with this love triangle of Simba, Angelista, and Mika.

And I think it's kind of clear to me, I don't know if you agree or not, that I think Simba likes Mika a lot more.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So again, I feel terrible for my girl, Angelista. I think she seems like a sweet girl. We still haven't seen a ton of her, but I feel for her. And we will have to see what happens there.

Dad: Okay. Is that it for UK, Love Island in general?

Isabella: That's it on my end.

Dad: Okay. I didn't have anything else to add. I thought overall UK was pretty boring too for the week. I'm looking forward to the Bombshell fallout.

Isabella: Can I say one more thing first? Sure. I just wanna say regarding Love Island, we did do a comparison of the number of bombshells total. There are way, way more in UK. And I think that maybe it could be evened out a little bit, throw a couple of those on The USA and call it a day.

But, yeah, I I don't know what's going on there. USA USA needs more, and UK could probably even do a couple less. So that's my last comment regarding Love Island.

Dad: Okay. I'm gonna pitch you on a different show. It's new to you, not new to your mother and me. McBee Dynasty. Season three just started.

It's set in Missouri. I think it's horrible, meaning it's a train wreck, and I've watched every episode. I hate myself for doing it, but I'm sure I'm gonna watch every episode. Quick summary, lots of alcohol. So there's a famous episode where one of the sons, Cole, gets so drunk, he fights a hill and punches a hill.

It's become a meme. It's about a family in Missouri that own farmland. They produce cattle, crops, and a lot of drama. And already by season three, the patriarch, the main character from seasons one and two, is going to prison. So it's almost like RHSLC, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, that someone goes to jail by season three.

And he was sentenced to twenty four months in prison, $3,000,000 in fines, $4,000,000 in restitution for

Isabella: What did he do?

Dad: Crop insurance fraud. So when something happens to your crop, you can file claims for insurance. And he committed fraud in doing so. That's in episode one of season three. One of the sons said, oh, he just messed up a cell in the spreadsheet, and it resulted in everything being wrong, and that's what he did.

There's no way. That's as simple as he did. A couple of other highlights from prior seasons, they also started creating car washes, coffee and car wash at the same time. I'm not sure how much business there is in these Missouri towns, but it strikes me as overbuilt. And they claim that a hedge fund is coming to invest, And they show the guy from the alleged hedge fund.

There's no way a hedge fund is gonna be investing in car washes. And it's just lots of drama, and one of the sons, Steven, has a lot of messy girlfriends. He's already on two or three by episode one of season three. So I recommend you consider watching it, and if you do, we'll report back. But that's all I have for that.

Isabella: Okay. It sounds like a lot of really terrible men again, but I'm intrigued. The thing that intrigues me the most is fighting the hill.

Dad: Oh, yeah. It's amazing.

Isabella: And of course, any kind of fraud when it comes to reality TV is interesting to watch. So, yeah, I'll consider it for sure.

Dad: Okay. Do you wanna do Summerhouse Aftermath or whatever they call the post reunion episode? I just have a few comments.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't have too much there either. My main thing is I do think we got way more information on the actual affair. I don't know if you can call it an affair at this point, but yeah. I think we got way more information on this episode of kind of the details.

I do think Amanda seems way more comfortable talking to Lindsay. I don't think West seems more comfortable talking to Kyle, but whatever. Amanda, I do wanna say she looks scary skinny. That is concerning to see. I don't I don't wish any harm on this girl.

I think she made a big, big mistake, but I don't want to see her that skinny. That's not fun for me to see.

Dad: She's always been pretty skinny, but I agree she is skinnier. I wrote down, I'm pretty sure she picked her nose on camera and rolled it. Okay. I'm also surprised. I would have thought that she would be more P and G persona non grata with respect to everyone, but maybe that's Lindsay seizing upon the opportunity to have another filming session.

I agree. West seemed super awkward, but he's always awkward. And I kept thinking the more he talks, the worse he looks. So he should just stop talking. And then the last thing I wrote down was Lindsay's mic drop line, to be honest, you should feel stupid.

Isabella: Mhmm.

Dad: That was probably the best from the whole episode, which overall was somewhat boring.

Isabella: I was entertained just because I was deep into these conversations, but yeah, I would agree. The main takeaway I had from the Amanda and Lindsay talk was, wow, Lindsay did not hold back, and I love her for that. That's why Lindsay Hubbard is always gonna be famous. She's just so good in these situations. I do think Amanda took it pretty well.

I mean, Lindsay was going at her, and Amanda was like, oh, yeah? Like, I hear you. So I give her a little bit of credit for that. My main takeaway from the West Kyle I mean, West coming in going, do you want full honesty even if it's gonna hurt you? Like, what what is Kyle gonna say?

No? What is dumb question?

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Kyle and Amanda's dog, that dog knows West. And West is like, I've never seen this dog in my life. That dog knows West.

Dad: Maybe he's just like a dog whisperer. I don't know.

Isabella: Even Kyle was like, so clearly my dog knows you. I thought that was funny.

Dad: Well, if he and Amanda have shared custody, maybe that's why the dog is sometimes at the other apartment.

Isabella: Well, that's yeah. That's what I'm saying. Gotcha. Okay. So, like, it's kind of just adding to Kyle's, oh, well, my dog knows you, so clearly clearly you've been at Amanda's place.

So that was my main takeaway from from that conversation too. I feel like, that whole conversation was And then the final conversation we saw was Sierra and Meija, which is West's now ex that he kept a secret. During filming, through all of this, he had this secret girlfriend, so Sierra got in contact with her and they're having conversation in, I guess, Sierra's apartment. I thought it was interesting that they were talking about stuff that has happened pretty recently. Like Sierra and Meija, they're talking about how Amanda and West are going to Italy together.

There's this photo of West spitting into Amanda's mouth in Italy. I'm pretty sure they brought it up.

Dad: Okay. Wow.

Isabella: Yeah. I'll leave that there. But yeah, I feel like they must have thrown this together pretty quickly this episode. So did think it was weird that Meija was like, oh, well, I was just on the phone with him for like six hours the other day. I'm like, girl, stop talking to him.

Dad: Who talks on the phone for six hours?

Isabella: That's yeah. That too.

Dad: Maybe she was exaggerating because I think Sierra did ask, was that phone calls or texts? And then Miha did say that she has to do it by phone because of Amanda.

Isabella: Okay. Yeah. That would make sense, I guess. Weird, though. I mean, it's just so bizarre.

And the ending was just awkward. Like, I don't think they knew how to wrap this up, so they just kind of showed a shot of the beach in the Hamptons

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Right. Ended it. And then of course we go into In the City, which I don't have too much about, but

Dad: No, I didn't take any notes for that show.

Isabella: Well, I didn't take many, but there's this very brief scene of Amanda trying on some swimsuits, and she mentions like, oh, well this is gonna be Sierra top. I just thought that that was ironic that they put that clip into there. So in this episode, we see they're on some trolley doing some lover boy thing. One thing that annoyed me, Kenny still wants an apology. For what, Kenny?

Who what do you want people to apologize to you for? For telling the truth about what you said about your girlfriend? Okay. A big theme this episode was Danielle and her boyfriend and how they got together, how he's still married. What was interesting to me is Danielle kept saying, like, I don't understand why you guys would send something in a group chat and say, hey, look at this.

She's like, who does that? And I'm thinking, have you never been in a group chat? That's literally all a group chat is, is sending people, hey, look at this. Like, that is what a group chat is, Danielle. I don't I thought that was dumb.

But Danielle is now pregnant, so she is having a baby with this man. So I guess, I don't know if you could say she won in the end or or whatever. I think Lindsay's obviously very happy for her too. So I think that was kind of the main takeaway of the episode on my end.

Dad: Okay. Confession. Now that you're going through all that, I'm realizing I didn't watch that episode.

Isabella: What? Okay. Well

Dad: So I'll have to go back and watch it, but if you didn't have a whole lot to say, I'm sure I would have even less to say.

Isabella: I think definitely the most interesting part was this whole Danielle thing that I'm referencing is a lot of people on the bus were kind of calling out Danielle. I don't remember how it started, but it ended up being Danielle versus Amanda. And I actually was kind of taking Amanda's side in this situation. And then it ended up being Danielle versus Lindsay, like on the street. Lindsay was like, okay, but he is still married.

Yeah, so that was the main takeaway, but honestly, you could probably skip this episode.

Dad: Isn't Lindsay also still married?

Isabella: Lindsay was never married.

Dad: Oh, that's right. She never married that guy. Okay.

Isabella: I know you hate Real Housewives of Atlanta. I have a couple things I wanna say. I think Phaedra doing Kelly's divorce pro bono is super sweet. I also think the gift that Porsha got for Angela for her mother's death, like, made me tear up. It was so, so sweet.

So really just I mean, wasn't that great of an episode. Just a couple of things that I was that made me go, oh, that's nice.

Dad: Well, don't know that Phaedra specializes in family law, so her doing it pro bono may not be the best thing. Saving money is not always the best course of action.

Isabella: Yeah. I guess that's fair. That's a fair point. Then I think the last show we have is Rhode Island finale, which again, I don't I really don't have too much. The biggest thing I have to discuss is the Jo Ellen Rula cheating husband thing.

Dad: I just wrote down that it was an odd ending, and it it's I think because of the way the season worked and how I think that they drug out the Rula and her husband thing until the end on purpose because obviously that video was around, like, five episodes ago and no one showed her or at least they didn't put on camera that she got to see it. So it's one of the instances where the reunion will be everything. The season was kind of so so, but we'll see how they treat these things in the reunion and whether it wraps it up in a nice bow.

Isabella: Yeah. I think part of the reason that it feels so dragged out on the video, the cheating video, is because I'm pretty sure Rula had some health issues during the season, which some of the girls did mention, like, you've been sick for so long. And then once she finally did come back, that's when they kind of bring out this video to her. So I can understand how she was pretty upset when it happened, because she was like, I'm still not feeling great, and this is what you're bringing upon me the first day. I think it ended pretty well, though, in that first off, I wanna say I'm glad Liz and Jo Ellen made up.

I think Jo Ellen really wanted that. They had two little separate kind of conversations where you know how the editing goes. They're kind of going back and forth to each conversation, And they're both kind of talking about the same thing. Rula is trying to get Liz to delay this message to Jo Ellen, but Jo Ellen is just gonna confront Rula. So Jo Ellen goes and knocks on Ruella's hotel door.

I'm thinking that would have stressed me out so much. But it actually works out pretty well. They they pretty much made up in the room. They both apologized. And what was most interesting to me about this was at the same time that Joe Ellen is confronting Rula in the room, Joe Ellen's husband is confronting Rula's husband about the video.

Right. Now this is where it gets interesting is Rula's husband doesn't deny it. He goes, oh yeah, I mean, I messed up. He says something like he said, you know, I was on a lot of hormones. And which that I was like, hormones?

What do you mean you're on a lot of steroids?

Dad: Well, might have been on TRT, testosterone replacement therapy.

Isabella: That's definitely what

Dad: it is. Saying for a friend, not saying for me.

Isabella: Okay. But, yeah, that was kind of his excuse. He was like, yeah, I mean, I messed up. I was I was on a lot of hormones. And that's just not a good enough excuse to me.

But I'm I'm glad that he finally admitted it, because before, he had he had seen the video, and he was like, oh, no, that's fake. That's AI. Like, it's not real. I like that he finally did admit it. I think he's still a trash human being, as we saw later in the episode.

He got arrested for, I guess it's domestic violence, but really, I think it sounds more like stalking. I mean, putting a tracker on, I don't know if it was her car, or I don't know what it was, but without her knowledge

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Which is obviously illegal. Well, that's kind of how the season ended.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: It's kind of Rula saying, I don't really know what I wanna do. I think she's still with this guy. I don't know for sure. We're gonna know more at the reunion, of course.

Dad: Right. Looking forward to it.

Isabella: Looking forward to the reunion. Yeah. Oh, Alicia's little reproposal was sweet. Yes. Thought that was funny and and nice.

Dad: Her accent has definitely grown on me.

Isabella: Alicia is a star. Right. I think that's my main takeaway from the whole season, is Alicia's a star. She's gonna be around on Bravo for a long time. But that's really all I have for Rhode Island two.

Again, looking forward to the reunion. We will be discussing part one next week.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: So I think we have a little bit of time for our little guess who that is game. Okay. So background again, I'm gonna show you a few pictures of some Bravolebrities , and you are going to guess who they are.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: It's simple as that. So I think last time we did an easy, medium, and hard. Sure. I've scrapped that. These are these are just three people.

There's no difficulty level.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Okay. The first one is Doctor. Nicole from Real Housewives of Miami. So first one is incoming now.

Dad: Okay. Real Housewives of Miami. She's no longer on the show. She is a physician. She might even be a cardiologist.

I can't remember her specialty, but her name I can't think of it. Give me a hint.

Isabella: First letter. N. Nope. That is doctor Nicole.

Dad: Ah, okay.

Isabella: Now, she did just get married, so it was doctor Nicole Martin. It's something else now. But, yeah, you got you know who it is. Miami doctor. Yes.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: The next one is Carole Radziwill from Real Housewives of New York. Here we go. He's currently zooming in.

Dad: Okay. RHONY, Real Housewives of New York. She was on for a couple seasons. She was not an OG. She was like something to do with fashion.

I can't remember her name though.

Isabella: C? Nope. Nope. Okay. That is Carole Radziwill.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: She is the one who pretty sure she and Bethany were best friends for a little bit. They had a falling out. She was all in with the Kennedys. Okay. Final one is Taylor Ann Green from Southern Charm.

This one's gonna be tough for you.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: But, I mean, you didn't get the first two either.

Dad: Oh, Southern Charm.

Isabella: Mhmm.

Dad: Dated Shep. Also got with Whitney. Rumors are that they're back together.

Isabella: Surprised you've seen those rumors.

Dad: I can't name her. Give me the first letter.

Isabella: T.

Dad: Teresa? No. No idea.

Isabella: That is Taylor Anne Green. But you were correct about everything else.

Dad: Yes. Get context. Mhmm.

Isabella: Yeah. So you know who it is, you're just bad with names. So I think that was a good example of he knows who all these people are. He often does not know their names. Right.

Well, that's our episode. Thanks for tuning in again.

Dad: Anything to look forward to next week? Are there any big reunions coming out? Is it Rhode Island reunion? Anything else that we need to know about?

Isabella: Oh, we do have Next Gen NYC starting next week.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Good. So that's that's Good a new one. Okay. But, yeah, we will see you next week, and Thanks. Thanks for listening.

That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

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"You had two girls, now you have none!" plus Summer House and Love Island USA

We cover the bonanza of bombshells on Love Island UK, Sincere (is he?) and Sol and Melanie and other Love Island USA key moments, Southern Hospitality, Real Housewives of Atlanta and Rhode Island, plus In the City and Below Deck Med. We also ask whether Dad's lack of familiarity with slang is because he's old or if they are UK specific.

Isabella: Welcome back.

Dad: Welcome.

Isabella: This is welcome to episode two.

Dad: We have lots to cover today.

Isabella: Lots to cover.

Dad: As always.

Isabella: Crazy week on both Love Island UK and USA. I think we got a few more things to cover as well, but it'll be a pretty Love Island focused again this week.

Dad: How about Summer House episode three of the reunion?

Isabella: Yes. That we have some things to discuss as well. I think we also have I have a couple notes on Atlanta, Rhode Island, and Below Deck Med. And then, I guess, a couple more notes for Southern Hospitality, along with Summer House in the city and both Love Islands, of course.

Dad: Where do you wanna start?

Isabella: Should we start with UK again since we did just watch the Sunday episode a little bit ago?

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: So I think we should go back and start from the start of the week, but I do wanna say we have some some boy versus girl going on right now. I think we've got a split in the group as as we speak. So do you wanna talk about that, dad, or should we go back a little bit?

Dad: I think we can cover that. My initial comment is that's what they're showing now, but by the next episode, everything will be copacetic. They'll all be lovey dovey again. It's just The UK way.

Isabella: Yeah. That is that is, I guess, usually what happens. But but we'll see. I think there might be some lingering feelings this time around. So for context, the Love Island UK folks, they had a challenge.

And this challenge consisted of the girls sliding down a slide and then grabbing a cocktail and reading a fact about a fellow islander, and then they had to guess who that islander is by throwing the cocktail in the islander's face. Now, of course, this was boys versus girls, so the boys were guessing the girls and vice versa. Now while this challenge is going on, you can kind of see the men starting to get upset. And I don't really know where this is coming from. I guess it kind of started with Opie.

I would say that one of the facts that was read is that I think it was something like this boy has acknowledged that he has a wandering eye. Okay. Fine. So the girls identify that it is Simba. And then they're they're saying something like, well, it's okay as long as you don't act on it.

Opie did not like to hear that, because Opie said, well, why is it okay when he does it, but it's not okay when I do it? Which I guess, I understand where he's coming from, but here's where the difference is, Opie. You said that to Angelista, not maybe not to her, but it it was at her expense. This discussion of, okay, Simba has had a wandering eye in the past, that's not at anyone else's expense in this island right now. Same thing happened with Aiden.

One of the facts was coming back on Yasmin, saying that she in the past had mistaken names and called a guy by her ex's name. Now the same thing, Aiden got mad and said, well, why is it okay when you do it? Well, the difference here, Aiden, is that you did that to Yasmin. Yasmin's not doing that to you. So I I get why they're so frustrated, but they're getting mad at the girls for this.

And that is what is irritating me. Like, these guys are acting like such losers. They're actually embarrassing themselves, I think. Aiden and Opie specifically. Then we have Sam Raj coming in, but I think I'm I'm speaking too much, so I wanna let you what do you have any thoughts on this?

Whose team are you on?

Dad: I I get what the guys were saying, but then I ended up falling more on the ladies' side afterwards where they were saying that they're moping too much. But in general, the whole thing is just kind of BS because that's how starved the show is for drama that this simplistic game, and they're talking about things that could have had happened years ago. So no one should really care about it too But then they all get worked up about it in contrast to the drama that goes on on USA. It's it's like night and day difference. So we're it's interesting that we're focusing on such a tiny thing in the grand scheme of things.

Isabella: Yeah. It actually took me a little bit to even figure out what the boys were upset about. I mean, while they're playing the game, I see they're they're getting all mouthy, and I don't understand why. So

Dad: Maybe the best argument that the guys had was when the women said that at least one of them keeps a list of on her notes on her phone of specifically who and how many men she slept with, that if a man admitted keeping and I think it's happened on prior episodes or prior seasons, would definitely set them off as being grotesque or disgusting or something else. I'm trying to remember which season it was, but it seemed like someone had admitted to keeping a list. It caused I

Isabella: will say keeping a list is not the craziest thing I've ever heard, but I do understand that I I get what they're saying in that if if roles were reversed, it would have been more of a problem coming from the men. I think that that there is a point to be made there. But like what Jasmine brought up, is, yes, you can say there are double standards, but if you wanna talk about that, then we have to talk about it both ways. And there are so many more double standards on women. So it's just I don't think it's really worth these men, boys getting so upset over.

I think that they're kind of just trying to pull the attention off of them. I do like that the girls finally seem to be standing up for themselves. They feel like they've finally grown some balls, and they're gonna call out these men, these boys for being stupid. I mean, just being weirdos. I wanna mention Samraj and Priya's conversation where they it got a little bit heated.

Samraj, you can tell he's getting so frustrated. I could just see it in his body language. And then he start he got he gets so angry. He says, you're just embarrassing. Gets up and starts to walk off.

And then Priya, to that, she goes, f off. And Samraj did not like that. They're, of course, going back and forth, said, you called me embarrassing. Well, you told me to f off. Well, because you called me embarrassing.

I'm definitely team Mika, Micah?

Dad: Mika.

Isabella: Mika. I'm definitely team Mika on that because Sam Raj, it he just is I don't really get where he's coming from either, but, you know.

Dad: Next episode, he's gonna apologize. They're gonna hug it out. It's over.

Isabella: You're totally right. My biggest problem, I think, with these men is Aiden. Aiden is his attitude, it it's just really starting to piss me off. Like, when he is talking to Jasmine saying that the way she was acting was off putting. Like, who are you to say that?

You're not even her couple. Like, I he and he's not even all that. Like, I get that he has girls that like him, but I I don't see it at all.

Dad: I do have to give him some credit because his persistence may have paid off in that he went back to first of all, Ellie staying on the show was the best moment of the week because she's my favorite. I love what she says. I again, the accent just kills me. She won't put up with any BS. I think that she would be the easiest to get along with personally.

And when Aiden went back to her and again said unfinished business, and then she said, okay, maybe I deaded it off a little too early. And then I thought, no, don't give in. I what's wrong with you? But then she's admitted that she she it might be a a her problem.

Isabella: Yeah. I think it's a both of them problem. I can't keep up with those two. Like, one day they're like, no, there was never a thing here. And then the next day they're like, oh, well, maybe there is unfinished business.

So I feel like every episode it changes. We really didn't see much of Ellie on this episode.

Dad: For the whole week, really.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that. Speaking of Ellie, though, since you mentioned that she was allowed to stay, I guess we should go back to the beginning of the week. Ellie and Samraj got a text that if the Bombshells didn't choose to couple up with them, then they would get dumped.

So, of course, the Bombshells did choose to couple up with them, so they got to stay. So no issue with that. Now, the Bombshells, do we who do we remember who it was coming in? It was Tommy and Simba? No.

No. That's later in the week.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: The Bombshells at that point were Kavan. Kavan and was it just Kavan?

Dad: I've already lost track. This is the complication of the show. It has so many episodes that they all kind of bleed together. It probably doesn't matter.

Isabella: And Priya. Priya. It was Cavan and Priya. Okay. So Cavan picked Ellie to couple up with, and Priya picked Samraj, and so they all got to stay.

Now, will say, do I think that that was ever gonna not happen? No. I think Samraj, it's very obvious he likes Mika more, but he wasn't gonna not pick Priya and have her sent home. Same thing with Kavan. I think Kavan is probably now it wasn't it was a little bit harder to tell when he first came in, but I think now it's pretty simple to tell that he was always into Jasmine the most.

But it was nice of them to keep Samraj and Ellie around, so that was nice. I do think Priya was immediately kind of obsessed with Lorenzo, I will say. I mean, I think she was kind of giggling and kicking her feet laughing, like talking to him the first time. I think she's really into him, which I get. I mean, he's the best looking one there.

And how about George? Let's talk about George and his disappearance.

Dad: Right. Oh, good. I I'd already forgotten who he was.

Isabella: You forgot about George already. See, that's

Dad: how

Isabella: quick this show moves is there was a whole extra guy that just kind of left, and you don't even remember him.

Dad: I do now. Well He was the Targaryen.

Isabella: Yes. He was the Targaryen. So George, that night, ended up recoupling with Mika because Samraj was with Priya, so George recoupled with Mika. George and Robin then go up to the terrace, and they kiss, which George didn't really seem like he wanted to do initially because he thought it was disrespectful. Of course, then Mika finds out and she, in fact, does believe it was disrespectful.

And I think I agree. I mean, I think it was a little bit too soon. I get that George probably did like Robin more, and Robin clearly likes him. But I do think that they could've waited a little bit longer. So I think George's first kind of intuition there was the correct one.

And then I think that, what was it, the next episode after that, we just hear George had to leave. Right. And I have since found out that he did have a family emergency, so all well wishes to him and his family. I actually think he was doing very well on the show, so it does suck that he had to leave. It especially sucks because my girl Robin then got dumped a little bit later in the week.

So do we wanna talk about that? Do we wanna talk about Robin at all? You're not really into Robin, Nothing I

Dad: against her, but I just didn't get much from her.

Isabella: Robin, I agree. We didn't get much from her, but everything that I did that we did get, I really loved. Like, when Opie came in well, let's back up a little bit. The boys had a night where they got to go meet a couple new Bombshells, and the girls stayed back and watched them on the screen, which I I love that they do this. It's the second season in a row that they've done this, and it causes great drama.

The boys, for whatever reason, have no idea that they're being watched.

Dad: That's so dumb. They've surely watched the show.

Isabella: Yeah. You would think that they would have some sort of indication like, oh, the girls are back at the villa. Maybe they're watching us. Nope. They're just stupid.

So Opie goes on to make a fool of himself. He immediately says he has wandering eyes. He's not really feeling the slow pace that Angelista has kind of imposed, I guess. Where Robin comes in here is when all the boys come back to the villa. Opie immediately gets extremely defensive.

He almost starts yelling at Angelista, he's kind of yelling at the other girls, acting like it's their problem. Robin was not having any of that. Robin called him out immediately, said, Why are you so angry? There's no reason for you to be all like this. And in that, whatever that accent is, that is just so funny that I just cannot understand what she's saying, but I think it's hilarious.

Dad: She's Liverpudlian, and they call her a scouser.

Isabella: Yes. That's what yeah. The scouser. I love that accent. I think she's hilarious.

So I was bummed when she got dumped. I was yeah. I was pretty bummed. So Robin getting dumped, that was unfortunate for me. Now, I I will say I don't know who I would have preferred to get dumped in her place.

But, yeah, I I think that she had a lot more to give, so that's unfortunate. Also, regarding the little boy's getaway to go meet the Bombshells, I think Aiden again back to Aiden. I think he made a bit of a fool of himself too. He said again that he's like what was the line? That he's in a sandwich with Ellie and Yasmin.

I think that was the pretty much the exact line. Of course, Ellie and Yasmin were not really a big fan of that. So what I loved, and this is back to reasons why we love Ellie, is the next day Ellie called both of them over and said, we're gonna have a little sandwich conversation. And you can see Aiden is like, no, I don't wanna have this conversation. He's kind of pouting about it.

She's like, no, we're gonna do it. We're gonna have it. Pretty sure she told Aiden asked for a hug at some point, and she was like, no, I think I could you can dap me up, but no. Like, we're I'm not hugging you. Loved that.

That I thought was hilarious.

Dad: But then she went back and said, I'll hug you because I don't want you to feel bad.

Isabella: Yeah. So she does she's she's very sweet, but I really like that side of her that's fiery. And I'm I'm loving that from Jasmine too, especially with the kind of getting on all those other boys after all of their pouting and moping after the challenge. So yeah, Jasmine and Ellie, I think, are the top girls right now. They're the most interesting to me at least, at the moment, but these things change.

Dad: Well, notwithstanding that Ellie's my favorite, I think she might be at the biggest risk of getting booted. All hinges on whether the new guy is it Tommy?

Isabella: Tommy and Simba.

Dad: Yes. Well, Simba's out for her, so Tommy is her only chance unless there's another Bombshell that comes in. I think otherwise, no one seems to be saying, oh, I think I wanna get to know Ellie. How was that for an accent?

Isabella: Not great.

Dad: Certainly not Scottish.

Isabella: Yeah. Okay. We've we've have seen a lot of Bombshells come in this week, and I am trying to even remember. We we already mentioned Kavan.

Dad: Simba, Tommy.

Isabella: No. Simba and Tommy were later.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: We had Kavan and Priya. Okay. They were cut they came in at the very beginning of the week or the end of last week. And then we had Namibia and Victoria

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Come in in the middle of the week. And then at the end here we had Simba and Tommy. So we've had quite a few Bombshells to keep track of this week. I wanna I guess we can kinda mention who these bombshells are kinda feeling, who they're talking to. As of Sunday's episode, it appears that Kavan and Jasmine are together.

Jasmine already seems to be getting a little bit irritated with him, and I don't blame her one bit. She was kind of hoping he'd be a little bit more defensive of her in the challenge. I get that. Priya is now with Lorenzo, which they're another interesting couple because Lorenzo has made it clear to Priya that she is not his number one. He actually told her straight up, you're my number two.

Yasmin is my number one. And she was like, okay. Fine by me. So that's that's where they are. Then we have Victoria and Namibia.

They were both kind of with Sam for a little bit, which Sam, messy.

Dad: Wow. He has been either completely out of the game for a long time, I can't throw stones, but or never had game to go from being someone who wasn't getting any attention to having two bombshells interested in him. And your mother and I debated which one was better looking. I thought Namibia. But then he couldn't have gone more wrong in his interaction between them.

And I still think he is at risk of losing both of them. But we'll see.

Isabella: Yeah. I mean, he's kind of telling them both. Like, when he was when he immediately after he kissed, I believe it was Victoria on the terrace, he came down, spoke with Namibia, and he pretty much told her, like, I kind of wish it was you that I was kissing.

Dad: But before he kissed Victoria, he had already told Namibia, you're my number one. If I was gonna pick someone right now, it would be you.

Isabella: Yeah. So he's just messy, and he seemed sweet to me, and it's still I'm not saying he isn't, but yeah, I see the player side of him for sure.

Dad: But it could be that he is sweet, and he just is not good at this, doesn't do it much, and is floundering around and saying what comes to mind without really thinking it through.

Isabella: Fair. I guess, well, he's like the the lower stakes version of sincere from USA right now. Just kind of keeping two girls on the hook.

Dad: I think it's more by accident. He's

Isabella: Oh, okay. Okay.

Dad: Because if they weren't after him, I don't know that he would have the wherewithal to go after them.

Isabella: That's true. Well, I don't know. I mean, do we even know what his type is? I think he's just kind of going for the people that go for him. I do think that these Bombshells probably went for him because they knew he was available.

Do the Bombshells even actually like him? I don't know.

Dad: Good question.

Isabella: We're gonna find that out though. I mean, this most recent episode, I don't think we saw any of Sam or really those Bombshells. But we're gonna have to it's early days for them, so we'll see more. Other than that, is there anything else you wanna say about UK? I wanna say really quickly that I think my top girl is Jasmine, and I think my top boy is Lorenzo right now.

Even though I do kind of go back and forth on him, I think he is I don't think he treats girls the best. Like he needs to learn how to give a compliment. I also am not a big fan of how he's like comparing girls to cars and I don't love all that, but he is funny, and he kind of made up for a lot of that on this most recent episode when all the girls were coming in being like, Guys, why are you all moping around? And he jumps up and says, I don't have any issue.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Like, just that just made me laugh. So he's funny. He's annoying, but he's funny, and he's my favorite right now too.

Dad: Okay. There is something I want to talk about, and it covers it's broader than The UK, but it came to mind. There are a lot of sayings on there that I'm not familiar with. And going back to me teasing you for sounding British when you said you like a slow burn in the last episode, it made me wonder, are some of these phrases geographic? Meaning, they're they're particular to The United Kingdom plus Ireland, or are these things that I just don't know?

So questions to you. I'll give you a couple. Are these boomer or British? And sorry. It I have to go with the alliteration because boomer British sounds good, and I know that that doesn't necessarily include all of what's covered by Love Island UK specifically, including The Republic Of Ireland.

So first one, Lambo in the driveway. Never heard that before. Do you know what it means? I'm pretty sure that that is British, not boomer.

Isabella: I kind of think that that's just a Lorenzo thing.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Like, don't know if that's specific to either. I think that's just going back to Lorenzo calling the girls cars.

Dad: This one is one I looked up, and it's a reference to the grass is always greener, meaning I left the Lambo in the driveway because I could have had something different. Mhmm. And I think it's a stupid saying, by the way. So next one, ticking boxes.

Isabella: That I believe is British.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Not to say that it's it hasn't been used in America, because I do think that we are picking up some of the British phrases a little bit more. But that is definitely British. That was a big thing on the early UK seasons. They would always say, oh, he's ticking all the boxes.

Dad: I I thought that was the case. I hear on US that they say checking boxes, which of course Mhmm. Sounds like a derivation. But how about they used to say early days, now they say early doors.

Isabella: I think they still use both. Those are interchangeable. I

Dad: But would say British or Boomer?

Isabella: British.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: I'm gonna say British.

Dad: How about dead it?

Isabella: I think that one's also British.

Dad: Yeah. Okay. I cheated on that one. That comes from Caribbean, so it might be broader than just UK and Ireland. Yeah.

How about this is a new one to me, pranging out.

Isabella: That is definitely British because I don't even know what that means.

Dad: I think freaking out or, you know, they used to describe opie. What about dead ass? Boomer or British?

Isabella: Okay. Well, when you say boomer, it's like

Dad: Meaning, I don't know it because I'm older.

Isabella: Then that's the one. Boomer. And

Dad: then, what's the crack? C r a I c.

Isabella: Okay. That is British.

Dad: Technically, it's Irish, but yes.

Isabella: Okay. Well

Dad: He's t, t e a.

Isabella: This is where I think it's maybe both. I think maybe it originated in as a British phrase, but it's definitely an American now.

Dad: Okay. Two more quick ones. Buzzin'?

Isabella: Buzzin', I think, is British, but that's another one that kind of has stretched a little bit.

Dad: And then here's one that I've heard before going back to even my generation, but I heard it this season, boss.

Isabella: That's a new one to me too. That must be like present day UK slang, because I hadn't really heard that in previous seasons.

Dad: Okay. I said those were the last two. I'm sorry. He in a sandwich. That's new to me.

Is that is that British or is that just

Isabella: think that's

Dad: That just Aidan?

Isabella: I think that's just a regular figure of speech. Oh, stop. Come on.

Dad: I'm in a love triangle. I'm in a sandwich.

Isabella: Well, okay. I guess, yeah. I guess it's just Aiden. I guess the proper term would have been love triangle.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Well, that's not oh, guess it was Aiden that said it. Yeah.

Dad: Okay. To be determined, it could be none of the above. It could just be

Isabella: Aiden just Okay. Points

Dad: Okay. So that that's really all I have. Obviously, nothing substantive for The UK.

Isabella: Okay. Alright. Interesting, though. Does it make you feel better that most of them are British and not just you being

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Behind? Yes. Okay. Alright. Well, are we ready to move on

Dad: Move on.

Isabella: To USA? Let's go. Okay. So another busy week for USA. I think probably less busy than UK, but we still have a lot to talk about.

We we started the week with poor, sweet Sean getting dumped, and I'm not sure if we talked about that mayor last week regarding Sean. Did Did I ever mention this to you?

Dad: You didn't. I had heard about it, and of course it comes up in Aftersun .

Isabella: Yeah. Well, you know, I feel kind of bad that he got for context, Sean was dumped from Love Island. He is a former police officer somewhere in Pennsylvania. Before the season started airing, the mayor of that town came out and kind of was hating on Sean for quitting his job because I guess they he's saying they put in a lot of taxpayer dollars to train him and just kind of dogging on that he quit his job as a cop to go beyond reality TV. I think he got a lot of people defending him because, I mean, if you want reality TV is gonna make you more money than being a police officer is.

I mean, people can argue about it, but in the in the present day of influencing, and if you're on a TV show, you can immediately get all these brand deals, I don't fault him one bit for doing that. I mean, he was trying to do what was best for himself. What sucks though is that he was the first one to leave. So my immediate thought was, would the mayor maybe take him back? Or

Dad: Well, and I did watch Aftersun after having said I hate After Sun and Unseen Bits, but it was Sierra and then Tefi, who I'm not familiar with as the cohost. But in that he said it wasn't really clear that he quit. He asked for unpaid leave, and they said they weren't sure that they could do it. So it's not sure it wasn't clear even in the Aftersun interview whether he still works there, is on some kind of hiatus or sabbatical or not. But I can't imagine that he would go back, at least without first trying to monetize this.

I know that sounds a little harsher than I mean, but he's gonna have some offers. Notwithstanding that he's the first one who was booted, he went out on a high note. He didn't I don't think he did anything that came across as negative, at least that would impact him as an influencer. Not that having negative things doesn't often help people.

Isabella: Right. I mean, we've seen

Dad: it. He seems to be pretty immune or not tainted by anything that he did inside the house.

Isabella: Yeah. He does really just seem like a good guy. I think a lot of people were upset that he left. I've seen a lot of people calling for him to be on Casa Amor, and I'm just like, guys, calm down. Like, people are gonna get dumped.

We don't need to bring them all back for Casa Amor. It's it's just I've seen that already for, spoiler alert, Beatrice too. Like, no, we're not bringing them back. Sorry. We're not.

Speaking of Aftersun , before we kind of go back, I do wanna say I I usually do watch Unseen Bits and After Sun. And what I like that they're doing this year is I like that they're seeing their reactions to getting their phones for the first time. I'm always and it might be a little bit scripted, like you said. Like, they obviously know that they're being filmed opening their phone. But I I did always kind of wonder that for the people that get dumped, what is it like to open their phone for the first time?

So I that is interesting to me. It's still not I mean, it's nothing groundbreaking, but it's it's

Dad: Not yet.

Isabella: Not yet. Yeah.

Dad: And and that is one thing. When I was watching, obviously, the producers are looking forward to a situation where someone has a lot of backlash online and opening their phone and being surprised to see it. Like, could you imagine if they had done that for Huda from USA last season and she opens it? That would hopefully, would have edited out because that probably wouldn't have gone or didn't go well when she found out the level of distaste or Right. Pick your word Yeah.

For how she acted in the show.

Isabella: Well, think that goes both ways too because I think also there are people that are fan favorites that I'd like to see them opening their phone and being like, oh my gosh, all these people love me and I had no idea. Like we've had a few people that really got big off the show. One is Leah from a couple seasons ago. She did a whole YouTube video about how she thought she was hated on the show, and then she came home and realized that she was the fan favorite, that everybody loved her, and it was the most insane thing for her to open up her phone for the first time.

Dad: I've already forgotten who that is. You don't need to explain, but and I was trying to rationalize this in my mind the other night. I'm working on it. I got the names down for this season, but I also know that as soon as the season's over, they're out. They're done.

I I will not pay any attention and will completely forget it. It's a capacity issue maybe at my age. I'm running out of space, but I'm peace with it.

Isabella: It's hard when it comes to Love Island because I feel like I usually remember the most memorable islanders. So like that season that I'm talking about, I remember Leah, Janae, and Serena, and of course Rob from that season, that was the season that Kahler was on. You're looking at me like, I got no idea any of those things.

Dad: I'm also thinking of all the other things that I forget as soon as they happen. I I can't couldn't tell you who won the Super Bowl in the last two years or the World Series just because, you know, it's over.

Isabella: Back to Love Island USA. I wanna talk about that bed challenge where they have to find their partner, and once they've found them, they handcuff them together. Now, when they're explaining these rules, they're just telling them, you just have to feel the people and figure out who your partner is. They're not saying, like, you have to make out with every single person on this bed. Right.

They never said that. No. But I do think that

Dad: They didn't say you have to make out with any of them.

Isabella: No. So when they immediately all start doing that, I'm like, okay, they got production behind the scenes being like, yeah, we know what we said, but this is what the game really is.

Dad: Well, and that's a good point with a lot of things in reality television that they will tell you one thing on the screen, but there's probably a lot going on. Like, I got into a fight with someone online about the the mister beast challenge and whether it was income to the people, and it long tangent, but there's always something else being said or not said that matters. And so, yes, the the first contestant, I can't remember which one it was, who she kissed everyone.

Isabella: I don't I don't remember which one it was either. But yeah, I do remember whoever went first definitely did that. What I remember the most about that challenge was

Dad: I think it was Trinity.

Isabella: It wasn't Trinity because we know that Trinity stopped at Bryce. Because I remember she knew it was Bryce and she stopped there and immediately handcuffed him, and Bryce reacted from that. He was like, okay, this is great. So I remember that it was, I don't know who it was, but the other shocker, I guess, maybe not even shocker, but Melanie going back and forth from Corbin to Sincere, back to Corbin, back to Sincere, and her trying to tell us that she didn't know which one was which. I mean

Dad: Well, in fairness, they kept saying, how could you not tell a five eleven versus a six two? Okay. That's she wasn't measuring them. Maybe if if he had a bigger giant head and shoulders or something like that, but she was just kissing them. I do agree with you.

I think that she was just taking advantage of the opportunity. And she at one point, they showed her saying something along the lines of, can't tell which one's better, which doesn't sound like I can't tell which one is my man.

Isabella: Right. I think she knew exactly what she was doing, and she saw an opportunity, and she took it, which is fine. I mean, it's a challenge, so it's not the first time we've seen something like that a challenge. Of course, Sincere was not a big fan of that, but we'll get to Sincere a little bit more. I do think the the way that they brought in the Bombshells was very interesting to me, especially the the female bombshells coming in, just kind of inserting themselves while the other girls are going, and they were kind of starting to figure it out, but they were all still blindfolded, so I thought that was good.

And then bringing in Caleb, the guy Bombshell at the end, and just having him go down the line and kiss every single girl.

Dad: Right. Right. Oh, which reminds me, someone in the show said, oh, he's a cowboy. He's he's from North Carolina.

Isabella: I know.

Dad: He lives in Charleston. It people from the South aren't automatically cowboys. I'm pretty sure that that's out West. Now, he does wear it later in another episode, a cowboy hat and cowboy boots. But, oh, he's a cowboy.

Isabella: I think the northerners like to say that, and I think a lot of the southerners just kind of go along with it. Because, I mean, we know Kenzie is from Kennesaw. We know that Kennesaw, Georgia is not full of cowboys. Like, maybe few, but we're just southerners. So I do think that they sometimes just go along with it.

I think even Caleb, the guy who's being called the cowboy, I think he's even just going along with it.

Dad: Right. Right.

Isabella: He's like, I mean, it's not an insult, so whatever. Call me a cowboy.

Dad: Well, another quick quote that I wrote down when Bryce said in a confessional, there's no moral paragon here. I thought, okay, that might be the two biggest words put together in the history, if not definitely this season. I thought, wow, impressive.

Isabella: I really enjoy Bryce. I really do. He is my number two guy right now behind Casey. And while we're on the topic of Bryce, I wanna talk about Bryce and Trinity. I really like them together.

I think Bryce had a moment this week where I think honestly, I think Zach got in his head. I think Zach is kind of telling him, like, oh, he doesn't really know about you guys. Like, I don't know if Trinity's really into it. I don't know if you're really into her. I feel like kind of you have more fun when she's not around.

I don't even remember what exactly he was saying, but he was definitely getting into Bryce's head a little bit. So Bryce and Trinity have a conversation, and Trinity tells him that she wants more affection, which I do wanna say is a little bit confusing because early on, she was telling him that she didn't like kissing, But now you want more affection. I mean, I know it's been a couple weeks now, but okay, great. I don't like how Bryce immediately goes and is like, I wanna talk to Kayda and see if there's something there. Of course, Kayda The face that Kayda gave him when he when he starts being like, I just wanted to see if there was something there between us.

And she just immediately rejects him. I love that. But I I'm really rooting for Bryce and Trinity. I am. I don't know if they're gonna make it.

I don't know if they really are super compatible, but they're the ones that I'm rooting for the most at the moment, I think. Behind Casey and Anaya. But Casey and Anaya just don't get enough screen time. I don't think we've seen any issues between them other than the little blip at the challenge where she was like, that's not funny.

Dad: Right. Well, and this goes back to supporting my UK plus Ireland, everyone is more polite hypothesis because Bryce went to what's his name? Zach. And asked for permission to talk to Kayda in advance. And I don't know that the typical American would have reacted the same way.

Yes. He was a little bit miffed, but he didn't get upset. It happened. Bryce gets shot down, comes back and says, here's what happened. I feel awkward.

It's it's over. It's solved. It within one episode, it's completely all good.

Isabella: Yeah. It was definitely weird, though. And I think I've said this before. I'm not a fan of Zach, and I haven't really been able to put my finger on it. I think he's he's a little bit wishy washy right now.

Like, I I he was confusing me when he after that, was it the bed challenge where he was telling her that he kind of almost feels like he wants to be closed off. And he maybe didn't say those exact words, but he did mention closed off. And when it comes to Love Island, the phrase closed off is pretty serious, especially when it's early on like this. So for him to say the words closed off, you could see Cate's eyes kind of light up a little bit.

Dad: I know, but I think that this is much ado about nothing. It's sort of like on some of these other reality shows where someone says, I'm falling for you, which you know is like an early way of saying, I'm falling in love with you. I'm in love with you. This he said, I'm sort of thinking about us being closed off. Something along those lines.

He definitely had the had the caveat. Mhmm. And sure, she focused on the words, but she didn't hear the caveat at the beginning. And it it was a a little bit of drama for a few minutes, and then it's already gone.

Isabella: Yeah. No. I agree. It's definitely already gone since then. I just I didn't like it just came off weird to me because one minute he's talking about being potentially closed off, and then the next minute when the girls are gone getting ready for bed, he's talking about like, oh, I don't know why I feel like I'm in a relationship already.

Like, saying it negatively to Bryce. So then I'm thinking like, okay. So which one is it though? Like, do you do you want to be this way, or is it freaking you out? Like, which one?

I think yeah. He's just very wishy washy. And then when it comes to he started talking to the new Bombshell Jen. I'm thinking, I thought you weren't into blondes. So why are you talking to a blonde?

Like, your whole thing with Kenzie was that you don't like blondes.

Dad: I don't know that he said he doesn't like blondes. I thought he said that's not my normal type.

Isabella: Yeah. I guess I need to give him a little bit more grace, but it was kinda like, oh, he fancies the new Bombshell, but I thought that's not his type.

Dad: I think you just don't like Zach because he's not from The US. And you I don't get like the interlopers on The US. That's it.

Isabella: I guess I could I I should probably say it's it I don't love it when they bring UK people on US, just because I feel like it's not realistic. But I I don't like him for multiple reasons, and none of them I can actually spell out for you. But yeah, we'll see. Maybe I I like him and Kayda as a couple. They seem sweet together, but him alone, I'm not really a fan.

So should we talk about Sincere and Melanie and Sol? Oh, Sincere, I don't know what don't know what he thinks he's doing here. He is he scares me actually because he is saying the exact right things to both of these women. He's keeping Melanie happy while he's talking to her, and then he's telling Sol the exact things that every girl wants to hear. I mean, I wrote down one of the things he said.

He was telling Sol that he feels like this is love at first sight. And then he's going back to Melanie, telling Melanie, oh my gosh, no, I'm just exploring. Like, it's not a you're always my number one. You just told Sol that it felt like love at first sight. So which one is it sincere?

Like, which what what is the truth? You're not being sincere.

Dad: I I don't know that it gives a whole lot of thought to how he moves, as they say on the show. But he's saying what comes to mind in the moment and not really thinking through that he's not being consistent. I'm not sure how much he remembers what he says or the context. And I'm not trying to give him a pass

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: But he doesn't seem like he is as manipulative on purpose or Machiavellian as some people have been in prior seasons. So I'm I'm not I know it's not going to end well for for him or at least one of the the ladies. It is. My bet is currently that it's gonna be he's gonna go with Sol, or he should go with Sol, but he's going to probably stick with Melody.

Isabella: I actually think he is probably more suited for Sol. They seem to have a little bit more in common, so I don't know. We will see. I do feel bad for Sol. She got pied a whole bunch of times in the pie competition, which I don't think we we only saw her get pied twice.

I think it probably happened a lot more than that, and we just didn't see it. So I do think that that sucks. I don't I think she's feeling pretty left out, so I feel for her. I really did like when she kissed Gabriel and she immediately was like, I don't know, something about the pheromones, I did not like that at all.

Dad: She said she could taste pheromones, which I thought, I've not heard that before. Don't think

Isabella: But I loved that, though.

Dad: I don't think that's a boomer.

Isabella: That made me like her a little bit more.

Dad: I might have to look into that because who knows, people have bizarre things they can, you know, smell what they taste or taste colors. I I can't remember the name of that. Like synesthesia or something like that. Yeah. So maybe this is what some sort of variation on that.

She

Isabella: looks Even her like face though?

Dad: Yeah. She looks like she just drank spoiled milk.

Isabella: Killed me. That killed me. Because someone reacting like that, I don't we don't see that very often on this show. It was just kind of nice to see.

Dad: Well, especially because he thought he was a little he had this look on his face like, yeah.

Isabella: He thinks that every girl likes it.

Dad: Right. Right. Probably he's probably usually right.

Isabella: Yeah. He is a very good looking man. I will give that to Gabriel. He I think he's the best looking one on there right now. That's just my taste, of course.

So we saw that whole game go down, then there was voting for who the Bombshells should couple up with. Now this was supposed to air on Thursday, and the Love Island USA app crashed. So they had to move the re coupling back to Friday. I just wanna say

Dad: Wait. Before we go on, do you know why the app crashed? Is it because viewership is up beyond

Isabella: Yeah. Think it's

Dad: prior years or just some glitch?

Isabella: Just too many people.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Yeah. So I think it crashed due to volume of people wanting to vote. And I do just wanna say, this is not the first time they've done this. They've done it before where America votes for who the Bombshells are gonna couple up with. I will say that I think the way that they do that, it is worst case scenario for the Bombshells themselves.

Because one, they don't get to choose who they're with. Now granted, I will say this season I think it worked out how it should. The Bombshells did kind of end up with who they were talking to the most, but it makes it weird for the people that are uncoupled because of this, I guess. Like, they have to now wonder, like, did did America do this because they don't like me? Or I I just think it's such a weird way to go about it, and it it works.

Don't get me wrong. Like, we the last season especially, we had so much drama with putting new bombshell with Jeremiah, Huda's guy. So I I get what they're doing, but I do think that if I'm in there and I'm a bombshell and I hear that America's voting on who I couple up with, that's kind of worst case scenario for me.

Dad: Except you're guaranteed to stay on the show.

Isabella: Yeah. But usually if you're a bombshell, you're guaranteed to stay on the show for at least a week anyway. I mean, they usually just let you choose first.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: So I do think it worked out this time, but I would probably hate to hear that if I was on the show, to be honest. So then we did get the re coupling, and the matchings were Sincere and Sol. Melanie, of course, was not not cool with that. She's all up in her emotions. Then we have Kenzie and Caleb, which I think was pretty obvious.

The one that was not quite as obvious is Gabriel and Jen. I do think that Jen was talking to Gabriel the most on the show, so that's why it makes sense. But it it definitely was the most questionable one. So because of that, we have three singles now, Melanie, Bea, and Corbin, because Corbin was with Kenzie. Speaking of Corbin, I mean, Corbin, can I have a kiss?

Dad: He just I guess at least he asked.

Isabella: I at least he asked. I just it's so cringe. It's I mean, can I have a kiss? I That

Dad: was a pretty good impression.

Isabella: So all three of them were single. They decide to have Corbin choose between the two girls, and the girl who's not chosen is dumped. So dad, who was dumped?

Dad: Oh, I spaced out for a second.

Isabella: Come on.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So who was dumped? I don't know. Bea.

Dad: Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Beatriz.

Beatriz. Beatriz. Yeah. Which I saw someone was making fun of someone saying it the correct way, so I'll just stick with Bea. But, yes.

Bummed. I thought that much like my view of Ellie on UK, she seems like the one who would be the most fun to hang out with. And, as you shared with me, she had some really good one liners. And she I could see her coming back, but this might just be me wish having wishful thinking on her coming back for for Casa Amor.

Isabella: I think it's a lot of wishful thinking, these people wanting the islanders to to come back for Casa cAmor. It's only ever happened one time in UK and USA, and that was they brought back Molly for Zach Zachariah, I think. You wouldn't remember these names at Totally. This Yeah. But they've all I'm pretty sure they've only done it once before.

Dad: Did Tony not come back?

Isabella: Tony was always there.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Tony from UK last season. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, I think it sucks that Bea got dumped. I'm not sure who would've been the better option, to be honest.

I will say I've seen a lot of mixed feelings about her online, but I think that's mostly because she's maybe not as bubbly and, like, light. And she's she's just not, like, really a girly girl, which I love that about her. I think if she would've been around longer, she would've really become a major fan favorite. I think the only reason she had mixed feelings is because people saw her being blunt, kinda standing up, and getting Melanie checking Melanie that one time, which she did say walking out the village. Was like, You guys check each other.

I I like that from her. It would've been nice to see more of her, but someone's gotta go. So it is what it is. Anything else you want us to mention on Love Island? Either one, I think we've been on it for a while, so we should probably move on.

Dad: Let's move on.

Isabella: Okay. Let's go with Summer House. Let's talk Summer House. We have watched the part three, final part of the reunion.

Dad: Well, I guess

Isabella: Well, final part of the reunion.

Dad: True.

Isabella: We'd have been we have confirmation that there will be an extra episode. I guess probably going over what's happened since the reunion and kind of the end of the reunion, I felt like it was kind of Yeah. And it didn't really nothing was ever resolved, so I guess I understand what they're doing by adding another part. The only problem is that we see in the preview Amanda starting to, like, question things, and that's nice and all, except we know as we're watching part three of the reunion that West and Amanda are in Italy together. So whatever Amanda was reconsidering didn't really hit.

Like, she didn't follow through on it. She's still with him. So

Dad: Do you follow them on social media?

Isabella: I don't follow I think I used to follow Amanda and I unfollowed her because I'm team Sierra, of course. I don't think I've I don't I don't follow many reality TV people. I usually just kind of see what's being said about them.

Dad: I only ask because that came up in this episode, in the prior episode, where they were talking about how the two of them kept posting bread crumbing things on Instagram and TikTok about where they were, and I didn't know if, at that time, you were maybe following and seeing that live.

Isabella: At the time, I I don't think I really saw it live. Of course, when the official news came out and they released their statement, I think that's when a lot of people were kind of going back in and looking at what they had been posting over the last six months to a year or so. So that's kind of where all that bread crumbing stuff came from, because they were able to go back and see what was she saying at that time. Right. And it's all kind of sketchy.

Dad: I have three things I'll lead off with. Sorry to steal your thunder, but number one, you called it on at least West being on beta blockers or a beta blocker in the reunion. Now, only admitted to that. Who knows whether he's on a mix of something, and then notably Amanda kept quiet. So you called it in advance.

Kudos. The second one, when West said something along the lines of, I've been less than clear with a zillion women. Maybe not the best way to explain yourself. Maybe you just say, like, I'm sorry for having not been clear with.

Isabella: You. Comment on that too.

Dad: Right. Sorry. And then Andy, at the beginning of episode three, looking at the card saying, it's meaty. Those are the things that caught my attention.

Isabella: That's it. It's meaty. Yep. No, I remember that too. And and I he was like, this is it?

Like, this is for the end?

Dad: Right.

Isabella: I think I I did make a note on that comment by West of saying, he he's basically in this part three, he's basically admitting to being a bad guy. Like, he's not even disputing it anymore. Everything that is said, he's pretty much like, yep. Yeah. You're right.

So he's full on acknowledging that he's not a good person. And maybe he's just doing that to just kind of be agreeable or whatever, but

Dad: If he has a publicist or a PR person, they're not really helping him out.

Isabella: He needs to fire them. Yeah. They're doing a terrible job. There are so many things though that I just want to know, like, did he do that? And I could probably answer my own question.

The answer to that why is usually for publicity. Like, I had the question of, and they brought this up too at the reunion, of Sierra at one point posted a really good photo of herself, and West made a comment, like a pretty flirty comment on her photo. And Andy asked, like, so why did you do that if you were at the time kind of talking to Amanda? And he said, I don't know. And I'm thinking, I don't know why he would do that either.

But then I'm realizing, oh, you know what he's doing? The audience loves Sierra so much, and he wants to get back on Sierra's good side. And so he wants But he wants the audience to see that he's on her good side. He doesn't care to actually be on her good side. He wants the perception to be that he's on Sierra's good side.

Dad: Okay. This is out of the blue, but I know you're a huge sports fan. They always show that he is a sports writer or sports journalist or something like that. Have you ever looked at anything he's written? Does he still do it?

He

Isabella: works for Complex. I don't know if you know that.

Dad: Clue what that is.

Isabella: Okay. Well, it's it's like a media company that they cover I guess he's in the sports side of it. I haven't seen a ton of things that he's been in. I've seen like a Instagram video here and there of him interviewing people, but I don't think he's like I think he's more of like an influencer.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Like, I think that's really where he his

Dad: Or was.

Isabella: Or yeah. I guess, technically, he still probably is, but yeah. He does have his own podcast with some WNBA player. So he's in the sports world. I just wouldn't say he's like I guess he did used to play football.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't keep up with him enough to know for sure. I don't have a ton more to say about Summer House. It's just really what was throwing me was the complete lack of emotion from Amanda specifically.

I mean, West, I get a little bit, but Amanda, not even a single tear. I mean, Sierra finally did crack and started crying when she's talking about how close they were and how that that, like, they were best friends. And finally, Sierra, like, cracks a tear. Amanda, she's just like, yeah.

Dad: Well, it wasn't zero emotion on her part. She did show emotion when she started to get defensive and then turn things around instead of saying, I'm sorry, falling on her sword, pick your cliche or metaphor. She would inevitably turn it around and make it about herself, which reminds me about a cast member on Southern Hospitality when we come to it. And I thought, wow, you showed some emotion, but at the wrong time. So it it it, again, if she's getting coached by someone Right.

Absolutely. So if she's getting coached by someone, she should also look for a different coach because it it wouldn't be too hard to say. You just have to go in there and say you're sorry. Say you're sorry. No excuses.

Say you're sorry.

Isabella: I mean, she kind of was getting coached by West when he was like, you just need to be not so defensive. What did he even say? He was like

Dad: Am I talking enough? Am I talking too much?

Isabella: No. You're not actually, West.

Dad: You're not And talking then it I I just am being quiet because I think it might help you look better if if I don't say as much. Something along those lines where I think he was just trying to excuse not being in the mix.

Isabella: Yeah. They're just both losers. Honestly, the only redeeming quality of the part three to me was Lindsay Hubbard. She started to get sick of it towards the end. I I forget what West was even talking about, but she blurts out, lie.

Just like, she was like, I can't take it anymore, Andy. Like, It's all lies. I can't do it anymore. And then when they're finally deciding to wrap up, Lindsay comes back with her wine glass and sits down and says, Andy, I feel like we haven't really resolved anything today. Like, feel like we're kind of in the same place we started at.

And Andy's like, okay, well, should we start over?

Dad: I noticed the wine glass, it might have been water. I don't know. It was clear. I was I thought, this is unusual that someone's drinking before the end.

Isabella: I think if anyone can do it, Lindsay can. Sure. But, yeah.

Dad: The only thing else I have to say for that is I'm looking forward to next week, whatever they're gonna call the post reunion. But it might just be because it's good marketing and editing on the previews.

Isabella: Yeah. I do have I'm excited for it too. I have a bad feeling that it's gonna be kind of one of those that we've kind of already seen the best parts in the preview. But but I'm looking forward to it. We'll see if we get any more information.

I mean, even Wes just sitting down with Kyle and being like, I think I've loved her for a long time. Like, that was weird to hear.

Dad: I think this might have been a Watch What Happens Live with Jessie and I can't remember the woman's name, who used to be on The Bachelor. But and she was The Bachelorette. Anyway, Andy made an announcement of how they solved the surreptitious recording, the audio that was leaked. And I can't remember the name of the actress who

Isabella: Jennifer Lawrence.

Dad: Okay. Yeah. So her I don't know if it was her specifically as much as maybe her online fans may I don't know if she has some sort of thing, like podcast or something, but he said that her sleuths solved it. Have you seen anything since then that gives more detail?

Isabella: The only thing I've seen is that apparently Jennifer Lawrence has some burner accounts online. Like, I guess she has this TikTok account that's not under her name at all, and apparently it's been discovered. I haven't looked deeper into that, like I don't know what the account even is, but I have read that her burner account was discovered. So I'm not sure if maybe that has anything to do with this, but she is very online. I know that about Jennifer Lawrence.

Dad: No. I just am curious as to what about the audio someone, regardless of whether they're famous or not, how they figured out who it was. Maybe I don't know. It's maybe a little bit too technical.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't think we're gonna know that. We're not gonna figure that out.

Dad: We'll move on.

Isabella: Well, think we can move to In the City, because that's kind of the same people. I do wanna Amanda moving out, it is pretty crazy that they just haven't decided to get a divorce at this point in the show. Obviously we know now they're getting divorced, but she's moving out and she's signing a year long lease, and they are still just trying to work it out. That to me, you're not trying to work it out if you're moving away and it's not month to like, you're moving to a new apartment.

Dad: Yeah. I find myself not caring at all about the storyline because we already know how it ends.

Isabella: Yeah. I just

Dad: It's more annoying in that, yeah, sure, I can see what she's doing and decide, oh, she's even shiftier than I thought. But on the other hand, we've seen the end of the movie. And Mhmm. Plus, they've lived in New York a long time. I you have to know that it's probably not easy to find any apartment, one.

Two, a fully furnished one that goes month to month. I think that's a hotel. Yeah. Or if you're going to find one, it's gonna be a year lease. And so I don't know if it's just them not thinking things through or she's just telegraphing what she really wanted to do and trying to spin it differently.

She wanted to get a divorce. She wanted to separate. She wanted to have her time away. I don't know. But it's it's not top of mind.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't have much else to say about In the City, but I do wanna mention that scene where Kyle and Amanda go to dinner or something together, and they're kind of asking each other if they're still in love with one another.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: That scene was so uncomfortable because first off, Amanda says yes, and I believe her. I do. And then she asks the same question to Kyle, and he just starts, like he just, like, busts out laughing. I thought that was so bizarre.

Dad: I think he laughed after she called him liar face. Right? She said, You were such a bad liar. Yeah. But he must have he had a look on his face where she probably knew that It

Isabella: was very he didn't much have an an uncomfortable laugh, though. He's all mad at all of his friends for getting him into this position about the whole no sparks thing. Dude, you did it to yourself. Like, he's mad at all his friends for spreading it around and telling his girlfriend, if you wouldn't have said that, then it wouldn't have come back to you. This

Dad: this is a great example of when I'm watching through the season, certain things come up and I think to myself, oh, I can't wait for the reunion. Right? This if I spend too much time thinking about it, I'll just get irritated. Yes. What's the guy's name?

The Italian guy?

Isabella: Andrea.

Dad: Yeah. That predates my time for Summer House. But Andrea says murky, and he later admits that that was his interpretation. Okay. Okay.

That's not that big of a deal, but that guy focused on it. And then but you're right. The spark thing was him.

Isabella: Mhmm. And they would have never gotten to the murky if he never said the spark thing.

Dad: Right. Right. And he has to know he's on television. Like, it's going to be known. It's not a secret.

But this is his first time

Isabella: It is on his first season. I know a lot of them, even though for people like us, it's hard to believe, a lot of them do say, like, you just kind of forget the cameras are there. And it is I'm like, how do you forget that, that there's a camera in your face? But so many of them have said that before, that there's gotta be some truth to that. I don't know.

But regardless, it was so stupid.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Okay. Should we do you have anything else to say about Summer House in the City or No. Okay. Let's move on to I have a few things to say about Southern Hospitality.

Dad: Ditto.

Isabella: I'm sure it's gonna be about our girl Emmy.

Dad: A 100%.

Isabella: I just I need to point out something that she said that just made me laugh out loud when I heard it. When she was giving her apology to Brad, which, by the way, I think it was a decent apology.

Dad: Better

Isabella: than Better, for sure. I still don't know if she means it, but any whatever. When she said she said, I will never know what it feels like to be a black African American male in America. I don't know why that just made me laugh so much. Like, you could have just said black in America, girl.

Dad: I think that she was coached, but she probably just fumbled.

Isabella: She definitely no. She definitely fumbled on that because it was we know what you mean.

Dad: Yes. Yes. She's trying to say all of the right terms without any of the wrong ones, but then added some extra and became redundant and it ended up sounding awkward.

Isabella: Yeah. But, yeah, that just made me laugh out loud. The other thing about Emmy that I wanna say is, I think it's really funny that she keeps saying, like, I don't wanna I don't wanna talk about my fiance. He's not here. He's not part of this.

And then Andy just continues to talk about him and ask questions about him. He's like, okay. I don't care.

Dad: And some of his facial expressions when she was talking.

Isabella: I don't have a ton more to say about Southern Hospitality besides just the Emmy of it all. But something that weirded me out was Justin is talking about his new relationship with Charlie, which I do wanna give just a little bit of context that I kind of personally know Charlie. We were in the same Rush group. We both went to Clemson together. So Charlie, if you're listening, hey girl.

Anyways, Justin's talking about his new relationship with Charlie, and the camera pans over to Maddie, and she's rolling her eyes. And we never got usually Andy will be like, Maddie, what what do you have something to say? And that never happened. So what what is her problem? Like, do we know?

Dad: No idea.

Isabella: Okay. Well, clearly Maddie has an issue with Justin, and I think maybe it comes back around to that other girl that Justin was seeing, and maybe Maddie has issues with that. I don't know. But I thought that was weird. Something not important, but just made me think of this.

Maddie freezing her eggs at 28 years old.

Dad: Seems a little early.

Isabella: It does, but I'm kind of thinking, oh my god, I'm 28 years old. Do I need to freeze my eggs right now?

Dad: Let's not have your major life decisions be so influenced by reality television.

Isabella: Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. And then Mia. Mia acknowledging that she slept with West and was telling Sally to get in on it.

Like, how bizarre. And then I do kind of have a feeling that Mia maybe cheated on her boyfriend. We don't have that confirmation, but I could see it.

Dad: Well, she did admit to sleeping with the guy in question. It was someone different than West. But she said no, it was after we broke up. And she was very quick to say, I'm not denying it. Slept with the guy.

It's just you've got your timing wrong. Yeah. And then that back and forth between the left side of the set and the right side of the set, I was definitely on Molly and Mia's side. I thought that the others were just acting and it might be an age thing because there's a dramatic age difference with some of the ones over on the right, Lake and Michols especially. I also love how Michols used gaslighting twice, and Andy called him out and said, that's not gaslighting.

And then someone else, Molly, said, it's not gaslighting if you call someone out for being wrong. And then the other one the note I had was Emmy saying, wasn't concerned about my personal safety. It was my emotional safety. And I wrote down that's some bullshit. That is a classic trying to recover the terms like, oh, oh, yeah.

That's what I really meant.

Isabella: See, this is funny, and this is probably gonna be our kind of a little bit of a generational difference. That was actually the first thing she said that made sense to me.

Dad: Right. But it makes sense because she's backfilling. That that's not what she meant at the time.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I don't know why I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. I think she's wrong.

She is the one that's wrong in the situation.

Dad: I hope she doesn't leave because I I Oh, We need her on the show. Yeah. Fascinated with her eyes, and the she she could tone down the crying because it's a weapon and or a defense mechanism to deflect, but not really, I think, genuine. And again, who I have no idea. I'm speculating about all this.

But do not want her to leave the show.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. So good season of that. Yeah. That's the end of, I guess, season three of Southern Hospitality.

I'm assuming it's gonna get renewed again. It better be.

Dad: I would think so because they had a real reunion this time, so that's usually a positive sign.

Isabella: Yeah. I do think yeah. That's a good sign. Go

Dad: on. I know that Southern Charm is recorded because when I was there and ran into a few of the cast members, they introduced another woman who had darker hair, and I can't remember her name, but she's like, I'm the new one.

Isabella: Okay.

Dad: And then when we took pictures, she was very particular she was not in any of the pictures that were taken. So

Isabella: she Okay. So she's like trying to be secret.

Dad: Yes. And I think I've I I don't think. I've read since then that there are rumors of a new cast member on the show showing up in town and being recorded.

Isabella: Okay. Well, you'll have to tell us more about that when Southern Charm comes back around. Yeah. Because for context, you do hang out in Charleston a lot. You have some family and friends there.

So he has run into a few of the Southern Charmers before. Yes. And he he can

Dad: For another day.

Isabella: Yeah. That's a that's a story for another pod. I think we have a couple more things to cover. We have Rhode Island and Atlanta, and I don't have much on either of them. Really, just a couple quick notes about Rhode Island.

Think I did think that Liz had a good apology to Alicia. Like, it seemed genuine. They've clearly been friends for so long, so they seem to be good.

Dad: Quite the recovery. Because I think when we spoke about this last week, we're both not really fans of hers, and I thought it was gonna be hard for her if she continued to have the same Mhmm. Response. But unlike some of the other people we've just been talking about, she might have better people coaching her like, hey. Yeah.

If you want this to continue, you might need to suck it up and say you're sorry, mean it.

Isabella: Yeah. I also just have to give credit when it's due. If you're gonna give a good apology, then I'm gonna give you credit for it. The only other thing is Rulla, she just does not care that her husband is cheating on her. She knows he is, and she does not care.

That's what I've I've just come to that conclusion.

Dad: That's certainly how it appears. I think that there's more going on. I mentioned in the last podcast the Bravo Docket, and they went through some of this. There's there are things going on behind the scenes that I think might have prevented either of them from saying things. At least, I haven't looked into the pleadings myself, but it's there may be more to it.

I don't know that she doesn't care because that may come out in next week's episode.

Isabella: Mhmm. Yeah. Well, that's coming to a close too. The reunion, I'm not sure when the reunion for sure is, but I know that they've filmed it. So it's coming.

Now, Atlanta. I thought the this episode was okay. There were just a few things that I thought was funny. Thought Cynthia Bailey was really being funny. She what was she saying?

One of the girls was throwing some shade at Angela and calling her, like, Bigfoot. I forget who it was. It might have been Kelly. And Cynthia came back at that and said, hey, be nice to the Bigfoot community. Like, I am in the Bigfoot community.

I don't know. That made me laugh. She threw some shade at Peter Thomas. Do you remember who Peter Thomas is?

Dad: One of her husbands.

Isabella: Her yeah. Her her first husband from the show.

Dad: Yes. The guy with the silver Yes. Beard from the island.

Isabella: She threw some shade at him because she was introducing her new boyfriend, and he she was like, you know, unlike other people, he doesn't like to get all up in women's business. And that is a very clear Peter Thomas shade. You know Peter Thomas is in prison right now.

Dad: No. I didn't know that.

Isabella: I think he gets out soon.

Dad: Okay. I think you're grasping at straws. The show is so bad.

Isabella: Oh, come

Dad: on. So bad.

Isabella: Like It's more it's more nostalgic for me. Right. It it is.

Dad: But it's you love the thought of it, and the actual execution this season is horrible. I said last week it was like homework, this one it was like a test.

Isabella: They just haven't figured out the right cast. They've got the pieces. They just haven't figured it out. I thought Kelly giving her little drunk speech at what's his name Shamea's husband's surprise party when Kelly was just wasted and gets up on the table and gives him a speech. Thought that was funny.

You're just he's given me a face of, like, I am just not interested interested whatsoever. Whatsoever.

Dad: I remember that. I think I might have been reading at that time.

Isabella: Probably. Porshma and Giselle Bryant, we saw we had a Giselle siding. They're wearing Clemson colors. I just had to shout that out. Big Clemson fans over here.

We both went there. And then the last thing that I wanna mention with Atlanta. They kept bringing up, oh, Shamea is sleeping with Hawks and Falcons players. And anybody that knows me knows that I am along with reality TV, I'm a massive sports fan, especially when it comes to Atlanta sports like the Hawks and the Falcons. So I am immediately thinking, okay, I don't there's this probably isn't true, but if it were true, which players would it be?

So that was just kinda fun for me to think about. I would have that conversation with you, but I don't think you're very well versed in the current Hawks players and the current Falcons players.

Dad: As bad as I am with the names of people on reality TV, I'm even worse with sports figures.

Isabella: Yeah. He's not he's not as big of a sports guy as you might think that he would be

Dad: as Not like I used to.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: He's just kinda old.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, that I thought was interesting. Just a little bit of worlds colliding. So but think we have a new season of Below Deck Med. I think we can get into that a little bit more next week.

But

Dad: Yes. Really quickly, bringing back Joe Bradley is a little bit insane, but probably more of a producer choice than

Isabella: For Captain For sure. I also Nathan definitely had a hair transplant. Like, 100% he had a hair transplant.

Dad: Oh, okay.

Isabella: But we can we can do we can talk about that more next time. I think we're running out of time.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: But thank you for tuning in again. Share with your friends, and feel free to reach out to us if you have any questions, concerns, you have any ideas for us. But thank you for listening, and we'll see you next Monday.

Dad: Yep. We really appreciate it, especially if you have any ideas for ongoing topics or games or otherwise. Mhmm. Love to hear from you.

Isabella: That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

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"Give me 10" - Love Island UK/USA, Summer House and more

We cover the first episodes of Love Island UK and Love Island USA, as well as the Summer House reunion, In the City, Southern Hospitality, Real Housewives of Atlanta and Real Housewives of Rhode Island. We also play a game to show how Dad can't remember cast members' names.

Isabella: Much to discuss today. We have Love Island USA, Love Island UK, we have Summer House in the city, and we also have a couple things to say about Real Housewives of Atlanta and Real Housewives of Rhode Island. So but we're gonna definitely start with Love Island. We know that's the big headliner here.

Dad: Top of mind.

Isabella: Top of mind, yes. We did just finish the latest episode of U. K, the episode that came out on Sunday, June 7, which is when we are recording. Should we get into U. K.

First or USA?

Dad: What

Isabella: do Sure. You

Dad: But if anyone hasn't watched it, spoiler alert.

Isabella: Spoiler alert for everything, and that's just kind of going forward. We're talking about stuff. Love Island UK, my first thoughts. I think they're taking a page out of USA, out of their book. Because I think I don't know if you would agree with me.

I would say that UK has fallen in the past few years, and USA has kind of taken over. And I think that UK has realized that and they've taken it on board. I think that the girls they have are stunning. They have great personalities. They seem a little bit more diverse.

They seem more natural. They seem fun. I'm already loving all the girls, so that's positive. What do you think, Dad?

Dad: I agree. It's interesting you brought that up because coincidentally the other night I looked up to see what the viewership was, and originally UK had much larger audience, but then USA came back at least last season and beat it. And I completely agree with you. Overall, I'm not a fan of any of the men on any of the shows, but the women on UK are much more engaging. They seem more rational, balanced, which, you know, has pros and cons in reality TV.

And I don't know if we want to get into specifics in a bit, but the other thing is that comparing USA to UK, The USA was just a little bit cheesy and overproduced. Too much slow motion at the intro, the first episode, and too much Very

Isabella: raunchy too.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Like immediately.

Dad: Right, right. This one, they just got right into it. There's no super long background about the people and them standing on the beach moving in awkward ways in slow motion, which is always so cheesy. So I just Did you

Isabella: slow dance?

Dad: Oh my gosh. Yeah. So I'm excited about both, but yes, I agree with you. I like UK better.

Isabella: So let's dive into it. Who right now is your favorite girl and your favorite guy?

Dad: In The UK or

Isabella: both? In UK.

Dad: Ellie? Mhmm. By far. And I just said that I'm not a fan of any of the guys. I I don't know if I ever am a huge fan of the guys for some reason, but may maybe Lorenzo, although even though George looks like a Targaryen, I have I think that he speaks really well and he seems to think through what he's saying.

I don't know that I'm going to like how he's acting and how it's received by the other women, but I was surprised that he seems more normal than the others. None of them are really off or there's any problem with them, but I don't know that I've picked a guy or if I ever do.

Isabella: Yeah. I think that sometimes you like the funny guys. And I don't know if we really know who that is yet. I could see Aiden being that guy, but he's already annoying me too. I mean, he already can't decide between Ellie and Yasmin.

Seems like he's decided on Yasmin for now. But then, of course well, should we talk about the dumping? The fake dumping?

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: So George and Yasmin came in as bombshells, and they were met outside by Maya Jama, who told them in twenty four hours, you have to dump two people. And it can be anyone, and it can be for any reason. So immediately, great idea. First of all, I mean, I feel like UK never really wants to shake it up like that. So I like that.

Now when the dumping comes around, they dump Samraj and Ellie. Diabolical. Diabolical to pick those two. I get what they were doing, but

Dad: And it was just such a bummer because we had just gotten done saying how much I like Ellie. I think that she's one of the prettier ones, but also I love her personality. She's funny. The Scottish accent is killing me. It's so awesome.

But then she's also

Isabella: I tink?

Dad: No. The tink, I think, is the Irish.

Isabella: Oh, you're right. You're right.

Dad: But she just seems like she doesn't care, and she's very balanced. Again, that's a trade off. You want a little bit of crazy, we'll come to someone on The US side who's a good counterbalance. So a big bummer, but didn't tell the audience what happened shortly thereafter.

Isabella: Well, spoiler spoiler alert, obviously, but they got into the van, they got a text, I got a text, and said that they have a second chance. So they actually went and spent the night in the hideaway, and on the most recent episode we saw that two bombshells came in for them. Now, what's interesting about one of these bombshells, dad?

Dad: It's Aiden's brother.

Isabella: Aiden's brother is going on a date with Ellie, who was just with Aiden. Genius. Really, genius idea to bring in the brother.

Dad: I thought it was a little odd that both you and your mother immediately asked if they'd had hair transplants.

Isabella: They just look like they have a really good head of hair, and they could have great genes, but I also know that hair transplants are popular in The UK, and they both definitely have some turkey teeth.

Dad: I was familiar with turkey teeth. I had not known that hair transplants were so common in The UK, especially that age. The Kavan, is that how you say his last name?

Isabella: Kavan, I guess.

Dad: He's 21, so that's a little early to be having hair replacement. Not judging, but, you know.

Isabella: I don't disagree.

Dad: Maybe we're speculating, it may never have happened

Isabella: Complete right speculation, we have no idea. It just looks like the hair is it looks too luscious to me.

Dad: Okay. That's not what I would have said. You won't catch me saying his hair is luscious.

Isabella: Speaking of Kavan, I feel like we have a lot of really young people on this season of UK specifically. All the 21 year olds, just thinking about how they were born in 2005 freaks me out a little bit. Like, are they old enough to be here?

Dad: You'll get used to it. Mika is 21. Who is there anyone else?

Isabella: I can't remember who I know it was Aiden's little brother is for sure 21. And then maybe Robin? I don't have that, but I know that oh, you got your little cheat sheet over here.

Dad: Oh, you're not supposed to tell the audience.

Isabella: Oh, we can tell. Our audience will learn quickly that you struggle with names sometimes, so especially for Love Island with both going on. You need a little bit of help.

Dad: Well, and it came in handy because Robin is also 21.

Isabella: Okay. I thought Robin maybe. There are some on USA that are 21 too. I just think it's I mean, when I was 21, I had no idea what I was doing. So I guess that's what they're looking for though.

So I want to make one comment. I need to just talk about Jasmine. Jasmine is one of the prettiest girls I think they've ever had on the show. She seems so cool. I think she and Lorenzo are one of the most beautiful couples they've had on the show.

I mean, both of them, I think they are way better looking than anyone on USA, to be honest. I know it's not a competition, but wow. They're they're nice to look at for sure.

Dad: But they're short timers. They're not going to last.

Isabella: Oh, no. I don't think they're going to last as a couple. I think Jasmine is actually more suited for like a Samraj. Speaking of Samraj, I love him. I think he's smart, which we need a little bit more of on this show.

Not all the time, but it's it's just kind of refreshing to hear someone that just is well spoken and sounds normal and not dumb.

Dad: I'm getting the names straight. I kept calling him Ram Jam for some reason. But Sammy Raj is

Isabella: Sammy Raj. Yeah. They started calling him Sammy Raj. That's funny. I want to say one more thing about UK before we can we can move on, of course, depending on if you have more things to say.

Dad: Go for it.

Isabella: Every season of Love Island UK has at least one girl that has the most awful extensions you've ever seen in your life. And I'm not gonna call her out, but if you know, you know. And that's all I'm going to say. And I think these girls need some help. Someone needs to tell them.

Dad: And I wish you had not brought this up, and your mother said the same thing about someone in The USA episode the other night, and now I'm stuck looking at their hair to see if they have extensions or broken, I don't even know how you say it, broken hair.

Isabella: I don't even know what you're talking about, but yeah.

Dad: Yes. I can't unsee it either.

Isabella: It's so funny. Yeah. I'm not gonna put that girl on blast, but I think if you've seen it, you know who it is. The last thing I'll say is I would like to see more from Angelista. Angelista?

Dad: It's it's Lista. Okay.

Isabella: I would like to see more from her. I think she needs a bombshell. I don't think Opie is her guy. We haven't seen enough of her, and I'd like to see more.

Dad: Real quick on that. Could be both of these things could be production. What I mean by that is Angelista could be the funniest gal on the show, and they're just not showing it. And then going back to the extensions, what if they show up and the producers say, hey, you have to have super long hair for this show. I don't know what anyone was telling you before coming here, and they encouraged them to get it.

Trying to come up with a rationale that explains this.

Isabella: That's interesting because I'm trying to remember the last girl that didn't have long hair on Love Island, period. I'm sure there have been, but yeah, even just looking at our cheat sheet

Dad: Lola's hair is not that long,

Isabella: is No. And I think her hair looks natural.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: And I like Lola too. Mean, all these girls, we're gonna get into them more, of course, as the season goes on. I already like all the girls. I think Robin's hilarious. I think Lola's gonna be funny.

Yeah. I'm I'm looking forward to the season.

Dad: But which one is gonna be crazy? There has to be someone crazy or it won't be as good.

Isabella: I could see it being Ellie. I could see it being Ellie. I could see could see Jasmine getting a little bit crazy, but I could see it being warranted.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: And then, you know, it's hard, it's so hard to say.

Dad: I think Robin. It really is.

Isabella: Okay. I could see Robin.

Dad: Robin, I think it's one of those she doth protest too much. She's saying, I don't care, I'm easygoing, I'll see everyone, I wanna talk, chat to everyone. But I already anticipate she might get hung up on someone quickly and have her feelings hurt and spiral a little bit. I don't want that to happen, but if I had to pick one of the seven, that's who I'd pick.

Isabella: I could see that. I could see that. We're calling these girls crazy, and it's lovingly we're we don't want any kind of bullying of these girls, obviously. I think that should go without being said, but just want to make that clear. We are not trying to bully any of these girls.

This is all just fun.

Dad: Crazy is not the right term. It's

Isabella: It probably isn't, but

Dad: Charismatic. If thinking back when the best episode of reality TV ever, in my opinion, was Teresa going a little crazy and flipping the table. So saying crazy might be too broad of a term, so we'll work on an alternative. Charisma.

Isabella: I'm not sure if that's the right synonym. But we'll figure it out. But just wanted to make it clear that that's what we mean. We very much enjoy watching the crazy. Yes.

But I think it's going be a great season. I'm excited.

Dad: Me too. I love also that it comes out in the middle of the night, so if you could space out what we're watching during the day and not have to wait for everything to come on, you know, at night.

Isabella: Yeah. It is a lot. Watching two Love Islands in tandem is a lot. But it's we're having a great time, I think.

Dad: And now we know at least one night, USA is not on on Saturday.

Isabella: Correct. Well, no, USA, we're gonna have After Sun. They just don't have After Sun for this week.

Dad: And that's not a UK thing or

Isabella: It is a UK thing as well.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: I don't know for sure what the schedule of UK is yet, just because we are on the Hulu schedule, so we're a few days behind. So I anticipate maybe the off day will be Monday or Tuesday.

Dad: And the other thing is Unseen Bits.

Isabella: I like Unseen Bits.

Dad: I don't watch either of those, After Sun I or Unseen

Isabella: do watch both. So I will definitely be tuning into those. If there's anything worth pointing out, I got you guys.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: So, are we ready to jump into USA? Let's do it. Alright, my first thoughts on USA. It's a lot. It's a lot right now.

I love the show. I don't know why they needed to force everyone to make out immediately. I think it kind of takes away from I mean, now they've already all kissed. So any couples that are getting to that point, like we see in UK where they go to the terrace and kiss and it's a big thing. We don't really have that in USA.

So I don't love that. First thoughts on contestants? Anyone you like, anyone you dislike already?

Dad: I would probably say Kenzie, just because I think that she's

Isabella: You like her?

Dad: Like I said before, compared to The UK, I'm not a fan of any one of them in particular. I think that she might be one of the best participants for what's gonna happen later. Mhmm. She's from right around the corner. Sometimes I love hearing her accent come through.

And then she just has these facial expressions. Sometimes it's just like her mouth open and she's got these big wide eyes, but other times I swear she looks like she just smelled a fart. And she's got this disgust look on her face, and it's killing me. It's sad that that's what I'm focusing on. I'm sure you have something a little more She's

Isabella: very expressive. That is one of my main points about her. She's very expressive. A lot of people are like, Is she on drugs? Because look at her eyes.

But of course, no, she's not on drugs. They're in Fiji on a TV show. What I do think is funny is I've seen online some people editing her side by side with Sydney Sweeney from Euphoria, and that is pretty spot on. They're both kinda similar personalities, but for the record, I like Kenzie. I think she's funny.

I think she's very bubbly. She's a little bit immature maybe, but that's what we need on this show. I mean, her getting so upset over Zach after one day is a little bit much, but I think that's what we're looking for on this show. Right. I mean, we wouldn't have a show if people didn't get upset that they were rejected.

So I like Kenzie a lot. I'm not sure who she's gonna end up with. She and Sean have this weird thing going on. I don't know what is going on, but you've seen them kiss all over the place just randomly.

Dad: Oh, he's the cop, right?

Isabella: Yes. Sean is the cop.

Dad: Here we go. Police officer.

Isabella: Yes. So I don't know. Maybe they have something there. Maybe they're just like, Oh, we're the single ones, so we might as well just hang out. I don't know.

But I I like Kenzie. I don't like Zach, and I don't have a reason for it. Okay. So I'm wondering your thoughts on Zach.

Dad: Which one is Zach again?

Isabella: Is Charlie's brother, which you probably don't even know Charlie either, even though you watched that season.

Dad: Yes. Okay. I'm ambivalent about all those guys. They're I don't know.

Isabella: Yeah. I I don't have a reason to not like him, but I don't like him. There's just something about him that bothers me. Maybe it's because I didn't love Charlie either. I don't love it when they bring in UK people for The US.

I think it's just not realistic So long

Dad: are you bothered when US people are on The UK side?

Isabella: No, that's different.

Dad: Why is that?

Isabella: Because I like it when they do that.

Dad: It's still unrealistic.

Isabella: It absolutely is, but I like it a little bit more. Because The UK people, when you have an American coming in, 're like, Woah, this person's crazy. We've seen it with Toni from last season who was big fan favorite. She won the show. So I think it not to say it doesn't work, Of course, it's worked before.

I just it's not my favorite move. I wish they could have found someone else from The USA. I do think where The USA has done better this season is with their bombshells, and that's kind of been consistent throughout the seasons. Think USA really gets the hottest bombshells they can find. I think UK, they need a little work on that, but

Dad: I don't know, I thought Yasmin was a pretty good addition.

Isabella: Yeah. George, though.

Dad: Yeah, I can't really comment.

Isabella: They, I don't think were comparable to Gabriel and Keita? Keita. Yes. Keita. Keita.

I love Keita. She's my number one girl right now. Loved what she said to Melanie when Melanie tried to kind of call her out in the challenge and Keita kinda got her back, and then she was like, Well, you came at me first. So I just I really like her attitude. I think she's funny.

I think she's gorgeous. But yeah, Gabriel, I think, is gorgeous too. He has zero substance though.

Dad: So far.

Isabella: So far, yeah. We'll give him a chance, but yeah, I'm not getting anything from Gabriel except for raunchy. I need a little bit more from him.

Dad: Well, you brought up the challenge, and that's one of the things I briefly touched on earlier. I can't stand The USA challenges. It's just such a waste of time, and why do they have to have slime? And I caught myself thinking, what's that stuff made out of? Did it remind you of Nickelodeon, the green slime?

Isabella: Honestly, no.

Dad: But Okay. But now it does.

Isabella: And

Dad: I thought about how I know that takes all day because remember when Paige was visiting and she complained like

Isabella: I like that you you remember this.

Dad: Day long that she was there. Mhmm. And so it's got to be a huge waste of resources for them to just they're trying to bring up some drama, but can't you just play a game in front of the fire pit? Like on The UK it's so much more efficient and they get all messy and the first thing your mom says is like, didn't they shower before they go and sit on the furniture? They're going to get slime all over it.

Isabella: Mhmm.

Dad: But it goes back to it's overproduced, and I was thinking about it. If there are any dads out there that are listening and you've never watched Love Island before, for Love Island USA, you could probably skip the first thirty minutes of episode one. It's just horrible.

Isabella: Yeah. It's it's a tough watch. It's a tough watch. I was we we don't usually watch these things together. I have my own apartment separately.

I do not live at home. So I definitely had a few moments of, Oh, my gosh. I'm so glad I'm not watching this with my parents. But, I mean, I see what they're trying to do. I get it.

I I know you think it's overproduced, and I don't disagree. I also think that they sometimes feel like they need to find things to do These for games often do cause drama.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I understand what they're doing. I think that it is a little much. Do they need the slime? Probably not. Do they need to be dancing all over everything?

Probably not. But

Dad: Well, and how about bringing in the bombshell and they force all of them to make out with him sight unseen?

Isabella: That part I kind of loved. That part I was like, You're being

Dad: a little bit hypocritical.

Isabella: A little bit, but I thought that for a bombshell though, it's I feel like that made sense to me. It was interesting, it was something they've never done before. I wasn't mad at that. I wasn't.

Dad: I don't know. Maybe I'm just getting too old, but I

Isabella: was Maybe. A fan of But I mean, I feel like I am old sometimes. I'm like, it's too much. But that didn't bother me as much. I want to talk about some of the couples.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: What are your thoughts on Bryce and Trinity? Separately and together, really.

Dad: Okay. I know who Trinity is. I gotta figure out which one is Bryce.

Isabella: Bryce is the only white guy, I think.

Dad: Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, he's from Hawaii.

Isabella: Model DJ, which seems to be a very popular combination. Like, oh yeah, I'm a model and I DJ.

Dad: He there's nothing there for me. She let me back up. She might be the smartest of the women on the show. She might be the smartest person on the show. She she said a couple things in contrast to a couple of the women who didn't know where New Hampshire was.

Isabella: Okay. That was a note I wanted to bring up.

Dad: Right. And then she said something, I can't remember what the discussion was, and she brought up the topic in a way, I'm like, okay, she knows what's going on. She not only knows her geography, but she was the first one to pick up on when Gabriel said I speak Portuguese, she said you're from Brazil, which is a Yeah. Pretty narrow

Isabella: You would think is something people should know, but the bar is pretty low.

Dad: It's less likely to be known than where a state in our own country is.

Isabella: Correct. Correct. Going back to the New Hampshire thing, our Georgia girls are giving us a bad name right now because it's both Kenzie and Anaya are both the ones who responded. And first off, I just wanna say, Keita having to go around and ask people, do you know where that is? That I think speaks a lot to the intelligence of our country right now, but that's a whole other thing.

So I think that when I heard her ask that question, was like, Are you insane? Who doesn't know where New Hampshire is, if we're American? And then to my surprise, I heard Kenzie and Anaya say, No, where is that?

Dad: I wouldn't expect everyone to be able to distinguish it from Vermont.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: But you should know it's up in the Far Northeast, right

Isabella: up there. It's New England. It's up there. Come on.

Dad: Hopefully they knew it was a state. They just didn't know I don't know. God, hope I'm not say that that's sad.

Isabella: We can hope, but, you know, these people were not cast for their brains, so it's okay. But it makes me cringe a little bit. Girls, especially my Georgia girls, I know our education is not the best, but come on now.

Dad: Come on. Back

Isabella: to Bryce. Something about Bryce, I really like him. I think he's funny. I can't even put my finger on what it is, but he's my favorite guy right now.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: And I think it more speaks to how the other guys are just not that great, maybe? Because it's not like Bryce has even done that much to be my favorite guy, but he is. I do think he and Trinity are more friends, but if something changed, I think I would support it. I think I would.

Dad: Well, something happened on the last episode.

Isabella: They were kind of iffy about it. They were like, Well, maybe we're not just friends.

Dad: It's growing on me.

Isabella: Yeah. So I could I do like a slow burn in these shows. That

Dad: so British for you to say that.

Isabella: They do say that a lot on UK.

Dad: That was not even a saying in this country before.

Isabella: I totally was.

Dad: Okay. Is that a generational thing?

Isabella: Maybe, but I've definitely heard that before UK. But I still I do think that it's rare to happen on these shows, but when it does, I'm usually rooting for those couples.

Dad: Because it might actually be real.

Isabella: Yeah. Because they're not forcing it. Right. And that's nice to see. So I wanna get into Melanie.

I wanna get into Melanie, and I wanna get into Beatriz, and I wanna get into Keita, and the whole, I guess it was Friday night's episode, that whole little ordeal, Melanie's crash out. What do you think? What are your thoughts?

Dad: Well, going back to what we said before about crazy, this is sort of what I was at least talking about. Crazy. Maybe overreaction is a better And way to describe without it, it would be boring, but it is a little early and somewhat inconsistent for her to get miffed, if not worse, about a pretty innocent discussion between her man who is sincere and Kaida. Kaida. Kaida.

Isabella: Or as she likes to call her, Katie, which I is not mean, come on. You know her name.

Dad: So that was so brief, and then as soon as a bombshell comes in, she is the first one to say, I want to go pull you for a chat, and not just pull for a chat, but to go up to the terrace. They went upstairs, if I remember correctly. And then the the fight, I thought, I'm glad that Beatriz brought it up. I thought she focused on the body positioning more so than the timing, and she would have had a better argument of saying, hey. It seems a little inconsistent how you treated Sincere versus what, you know, what just happened instead of saying like, oh, I was you were sitting in the wrong place.

And to her defense, she apologized. Now, oh, I didn't really do it on purpose and that should have been it. But I think that Beatrice was just really trying to get at something else Mhmm. And didn't position it the right way. So I don't know if you're gonna comment on how what she was saying what Melanie was saying as she walked away, but that that might even be the title of this episode.

Give me 10.

Isabella: Give me 10. Give me 10. Give me 10. About 10 reminded times. Me a little bit of name them.

Name them. Name them. Name them.

Dad: But nothing is more irritating than that because your mother does that to me. She'll just say that. And I'm like, no, stop. We're not on Beverly Hills. Stop saying that.

Isabella: Oh my gosh. No, great TV though. I do want to go back into the little details of that little conversation between Beatrice and Melanie. I also want to say, I guess it's Beatriz.

Dad: Beya I know I'm

Isabella: messing We're probably messing up her name, and we apologize for that. But

Dad: Beya, I think is the one.

Isabella: Beya, Beya, yeah. She I love her story. I don't know if I love her yet. I do like how she called Melanie out, but I do think that she went about it the wrong way in that Melanie heard what she said and did apologize. And then I didn't like when Beatriz said, I'm just telling you so you can correct it.

Dad: That that was

Isabella: little don't think that would have sat well with me.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I can see how Melanie kind of spiraled from there, but I do think I've seen a lot of discourse about this online, by the way. I think a lot of people are split, but I think most people are on the side of Melanie's being crazy. And she is, but I I understand where it came from. I don't want to defend her because I think she was wrong. Pulling that bombshell while he was literally in the middle of a sentence was bizarre.

And I did go back and I watched the clip again. She is really leaning into him. And you see Kenzie and Trinity even say to each other, like, Girl, move back. Like, we're trying I miss missed that while I was watching the episode too, but I've since seen that clip. So I know a lot of people think, like, Oh, Beatrice, she should've just minded her own business.

However, I do think she was trying to stand up for specifically Kenzie. You can say that maybe she's doing it so that Kenzie doesn't go after Gabriel anymore. You could say that. But I think we'll see. We're gonna we're gonna see with time who is really more genuine.

I do think Melanie I mean, she's a little bit hypocritical. We see that a lot in these shows. So we're gonna see how it plays out. I think that Sincere, I forget, he said something that made me think like, Okay, he and Melanie might belong together. And I can't remember what it was, but he, once he saw the new bombshell come in, he was being a little toxic too.

So they may actually work out. We'll see.

Dad: Well, now that you mentioned it, if I had to pick one apart from drama factor, I do think that Bea, is it Bea trees? Is that the pronunciation?

Isabella: I just feel crazy as a white person saying it. Oh my gosh.

Dad: I'm more likely to mess it up and sound like a flounder, so Bea might be easier. Yeah. But she says things that make her seem more like a normal person, almost like a guy's girl or someone that you could hang out with that would be, I don't know, less drama.

Isabella: Yeah. I do think that she and I don't say this in a negative way. She does have a little bit more masculine energy, and I don't think that's a negative because I feel like I have some masculine energy too. I think she does she seems like the kind of girl that the guys would love to hang out with. And of course she's an Olympian, she's been in sports her whole life.

Of course she has a disability, so she probably had to grow up with some thick skin. I think the verdict's still out on her. I don't love what I've seen so far, but I've also seen some redeeming qualities, so to be determined on her. I do think Kate is my number one. I think she's a queen.

Melanie is last on my list, but we can't get rid of her. So she's my least favorite right now, but if she got dumped, I would be upset.

Dad: I agree. I wanna see how this plays out.

Isabella: It'll be interesting for sure. I'm curious, so we have a dumping. Our next episode will be a dumping. Who do you think gets dumped?

Dad: I think it's gonna depend on the method that they do.

Isabella: Well, we know right now they have more boys than girls. So I think unless they shake it up, what usually happens is the girls are gonna pick and the last guy not picked is gonna get dumped. So I think if that is the case, I do unfortunately think that Shawn might get dumped. And I like Shawn, so I don't want that to happen, but I I unfortunately think it's probably gonna fall to him.

Dad: Unless Kenzie really likes him and

Isabella: And she might. We just really don't know. I mean, we've seen them together, but neither of them have really talked about it that much. I just don't know if they're a couple of convenience or because they actually have interest there. It's hard to say.

Dad: I guess I'm just not invested enough yet to really care at this point.

Isabella: I hear you. I hear you. It's only been a week. We got lots of time to go. I know UK is eight weeks long.

I think USA is more like six weeks.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Lots lots of time to come. I think at this point last year, we hadn't even gotten to the big hooda crash out yet, so lots to come. Anything you wanna get into next?

Dad: Summer House in the city combination?

Isabella: Yeah. Yep. We got much to discuss there too. As as you all know, or I assume you know if you're listening to this podcast, Summer House Reunion Part Two came out this past week. We are caught up.

It's a good one. It was really I was locked in to that screen. I wrote down a couple quotes that Sierra said that I thought were great. For background, Kyle is really defending Amanda a lot and it's really annoying me. Sierra's line, you roll in the mud, you get dirty.

Perfect.

Dad: Or when she said, that's not my wife, that's your wife.

Isabella: Yep. Yep. There was another one she said, and I forget really what the context was, but she said, referring to Amanda, She's unavailable, which is perfect for him. Which is so good, because she's technically married, which is perfect for West. West knows that it's not going to get too serious quick.

And I think we've seen a pattern in West that he hangs out with these girls, with all these different women, multiple at the same time, and then he just kind of drops them. We saw it with Sierra. We've not seen it, but we've heard about it from other girls, like, on the show, like Dara. Dara.

Dad: Wow. She had the best mic drop moment. Wow. And you know how I'm particular about people who speak with verbal tics. My verbal tic is starting a sentence with so, but the most common are so you know.

She laid down an incredible speech, just trashing him, very carefully enunciating with nothing extra, nothing missing, and it was just silence after she said it. And then Andy asked for some clarification, and she piled on again. It was classic.

Isabella: It was awesome. And West, I mean, what a loser. He can say something. He's so quiet, and I think he thinks it's gonna help him, and I don't think it is. I mean, for him to not defend himself at all after that, To not say He even agreed with some of the things she was saying.

He was like, No, I do do that. And I forget what it was, but it was like, You throw away these women like they're nothing. He was like, No, you're right. I think that was all he said the whole time. I was like, Dude, so then do something about it.

What?

Dad: Well, in

Isabella: contrast Sorry.

Dad: In contrast, she is defending herself in situations or in ways that she shouldn't. She should've just taken her lumps.

Isabella: You mean Amanda?

Dad: Sorry. Yes. Yes. And instead she was saying something silly, I can't remember if it was episode one or two of the reunion. You mean no one has ever had this happen before?

Like, I'm not allowed to follow through on someone I find myself liking and everyone else that were not in high school. Right? And I think that was Lindsay.

Isabella: And Sierra was like, yes. That's exactly what you do. When it's your friend's ex, yeah, you don't act on it.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Like, everyone knows that. Yeah. Amanda did not come in with the right attitude. West also did not come in with the right attitude. He needs to just say more things.

Not that I think it would go well for him, but I think he needs to speak. I do think it makes me think about Scandoval and that reunion and how Tom Sandoval and Raquel came in, like, basically on their hands and knees, like, crying about how sorry they were. We still hated them. Not hate we still, like, were very much not on their side, but it was at least nicer to see some remorse. I don't see any of that from West and Amanda.

No remorse. Even when Sierra is, like, very clearly getting emotional, and by the way, I love that she didn't cry, Hasn't cried yet in front of those two. Love that for her. Yeah. There's just she's coming at them, and they're just like straight faced.

I almost wonder if they're on something. Like, did they take a Xanax? Did they take some beta blockers? I know if it were me in that situation, I'd be taking my beta blockers, but it seems like they're a little too out of it. I don't know.

Dad: It's hard to say. Being on a show would be pretty intense to begin with, but being on a reunion and being clearly the most hated two people on the stage, it's gotta be a lot of pressure. And I want to go a little bit off tangent here and talk about one thing from In the City and one thing from a prior episode. I know they're different shows, but it's all on It's basically the

Isabella: same Yeah. At They this connect.

Dad: Did you notice in the most recent In the City when Amanda West and Sierra were together and having lunch at some picnic table outside, and West kept reaching across and eating pasta out of Amanda's plate. And I have known people for a lot longer than those two know each other, and I would never dream of reaching across the table and eating food off of a woman's plate without at least saying, do you mind if I try wouldn't even Can

Isabella: I have a bite?

Dad: Right. I I don't think I would even do that. It would be someone would say, do you wanna try it? But he did it several times reaching across. And what I'm getting at is maybe this is evidence that something was already going on then.

And then the second thing, and you and I talked about this before, and it came out a little bit in episode two of the reunion, going back to episode 12, the scene where West and Sierra it looks like they're at the marina before they go out on their And I noticed something or I thought I noticed something, and it's like at the the thirty four minute mark, forty minute mark, something like that, and Wes says, I see you more. And the music changed. It had gone it was some sort of light music, then quiet, and then as soon as he said that, there's this ominous cello. I obviously went back and watched it again.

Isabella: Yeah. Ominous cello.

Dad: And she kind of clocks her turns her head a little bit to a degree. And in the beginning of that episode, they had showed her on the bed with Amanda, and I can't remember who else, and saying something, and Amanda says, Oh, you are seen. I see you. And I was thinking, Wait a minute. Sierra is thinking, You guys are talking to each other behind my back.

You're using the same weird phrasing. And she finally said it on episode two of the reunion. I thought, okay, vindicated, even though I knew I was right from the beginning.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't think she was clocking that at the moment. I don't think Sierra was. I think looking back, she probably realized that. And I mean, unless I'm wrong, but I really do think Sierra trusted both of them.

I mean, I know West, it took a minute for them to get back, but once they were back, I mean, we saw Sierra was like when they had that when Lindsay had her freedom dinner. Right. Sierra was talking about how she was so happy to have her favorite person in her life back. I thought that was little much. Like, to call him your favorite person,

Dad: I think is She needs to get out more.

Isabella: Maybe. I just my gosh. I feel for Sierra so much because she is she wants to I think she's been done wrong a lot, but she has such a big heart that she's very trusting. And when stuff like this happens to her, it's it's hard to watch because you know that that's like her that big heart of hers is probably diminishing just a little bit. And she maybe doesn't accept as many people in because of this.

And it's just it's I can't imagine doing that to a friend of mine, really, even if we're just acquaintances. I can't I can't imagine doing that. And I just wanna point out, on the In the City episode, Amanda's in her confessional. She says, quote, Sierra has been my best friend for years. You're gonna do that to your best friend.

It's so baffling to me. I know we've been here for weeks now, but I'm still not over it. I think it's insane. It's insane.

Dad: Definitely not good behavior.

Isabella: No. No. Yeah. So, I don't know. I wanna go back to the reunion.

Sure. And I wanna say something a little more light. Like, not not so much West Amanda. Carl and Lindsay, I

Dad: They might get back together.

Isabella: I want them to. Like, I want them to. And maybe it's the wrong choice. I know when they were together, they were not good for each other. But I think Carl's grown a lot.

Carl has a lot more confidence now. I think Lindsay's in a better place. She has her kid now. Think maybe she's looking for what she's looking for is a little bit different. I see it.

I see it. And I want it to happen. I think I'm gonna get a lot of people disagreeing with me on this, but I want it. I see it. I want it.

Dad: It might be a little unrealistic, but I see where you're going with that.

Isabella: It probably is, but I think it'd be great. Mostly just for TV purposes.

Dad: Any thoughts about In the City?

Isabella: I have a few thoughts. I want to say one more thing about Summer House that has come out since the episode, and I don't know if you've heard of this. Supposedly, Dara and KJ have broken up.

Dad: Oh, your mom did say that.

Isabella: And this was, I believe, after part one of the reunion. And I don't think we have much more information beyond that besides they unfollowed each other on Instagram. And I think maybe Dara said something on social media to kind of hint at that, but there's well, I guess I could go look right now. Let me do some research because supposedly they unfollowed each other. And, of course, when you unfollow each other and you're in a you're a public figure, that means you broke up.

They are still not following each other. I just would like to know what happened there because they really did seem like they were locked in. I mean, they were talking about she said that this is gonna be the most stable relationship in my life. She said something similar to that. So I was a little bit surprised.

I know they filmed their reunion weeks ago, but still, it's not that much time between then and now to break up. So I'm interested to see what happened.

Dad: Yeah. I don't care.

Isabella: Alright. Well I

Dad: mean, I wish the best for

Isabella: us, but I'm not focused on I hear you. Moving on. I have to say about the city. Kenny might be approaching one of my least favorite Bravo men quickly. I really like him.

The first warning sign was when he said that the girl that he just had moved across the country for him, that he didn't have a spark with her. What an insane thing to say.

Dad: Especially on TV.

Isabella: On TV, yeah. And he hasn't gotten much better since then. So I'm curious of your thoughts. I know you had a run-in with Lindsay. I was team Lindsay, of course.

But yeah, I think he scares me a little bit.

Dad: I don't have much to say about that. It's it's still too early that I'm

Isabella: not

Dad: overly fond of any of them. I think that his girlfriend is pretty and

Isabella: She is. I think she needs to get out of there.

Dad: The I did go to that bar, the Garrett, the the Speakeasy in New York when I was up there a couple weeks ago, and it was at night and it was packed. But it was kinda neat that you go into the Five Guys and there's a bouncer at the stairs and you walk up the stairs. It was nice, but that's the most I have out of in the city.

Isabella: We're still learning. We're only a few episodes in. So of course, we're gonna be focusing on Lindsay, Kyle, Sierra. Well, Sierra's not on there, but she was. Lindsay, Kyle, Amanda.

We're kind of focusing on that right now, but I, of course, had to point out how much it can't stand Kenny.

Dad: Is he the one that said I work out every day? Oh, no, no. That's the guy, the milkman.

Isabella: Yes. The milkman that Lindsay was dating. Speaking of Lindsay, real quick, this is not important, but I love it when and this is a broader kind of comment too. I love it when the editors are shady. Like, Lindsay pointed out when she was meeting up with Danielle, which I'm glad they're meeting up by the way.

I think they need to be friends again. I mean, they were so close. Anyways, she said in her confessional that she always says yes. Like Danielle, I guess, said, I'm surprised you said yes. And Lindsay responded, I always say yes.

Then the editors flashed back to what? Last episode where Danielle comes up to her in the bar and says, Can we get a coffee sometime? And Lindsay says, No. I don't know what exactly she said, but she definitely declined the offer. I love it when the editors find that and do a little flashback just to say, hey, no, that's not what you said, but okay.

Dad: Interesting. It reminds me, I love how on Southern Hospitality, the producers will do it. I looked this up. It's called a snap zoom, where they show them in the confessional and then a split second later, it's their face really close-up. And they do that to Emmy all the time because of her eyes or because she's saying something completely inconsistent with what she said before.

But, yes, it's I wish they would do it more often, including on the reunions where they're saying, I never said that. And sometimes they'll show the footage and sometimes they don't.

Isabella: It's kind of like if you ever watch The Office, which everyone has seen The Office, how when one character will kind of look at the camera, it's a little bit like that but in editing instead. Like you're trying to tell the audience something. Should we move on to Southern Hospitality since we're Sure. Kind of already I don't have much on this, but I do have a couple notes. What is up with Lake and Mikels saying they chase each other around with knives?

Did you catch that?

Dad: I did. I thought that that was a little bit odd.

Isabella: Like, very bizarre.

Dad: Then to say, like, everyone does that. Like, I did that within my family.

Isabella: Yeah. They're trying to say it like we're brother and sister. I'm pretty sure my brother and I never chased each other around. Now, we fought. We'd get pretty physical, but we were not using knives.

No. No. It's insane.

Dad: And that they're defending each other, and earlier in the season, they were fighting like cats and dogs.

Isabella: The other thing I thought was interesting, and maybe I just don't know enough about Maddie, They congratulated her on twelve years of sobriety. I think it's awesome. And she's a DJ. Like, she's in that world, so good for her. I do think she got a little bit defensive about her ex boyfriend, and that's kind of questionable to me.

Dad: It doesn't look good. If I were Joe, I would be squirming. And speaking of Joe, does he not ask anyone for help on trying to put a business plan together? It seems like it's almost too off that sometimes you have to wonder if these things are a show line, and I'm not saying that that's the case here, but wow. He had no idea what he was doing and no he clearly didn't ask for help.

He's, like, all over the place. He thinks if he has good ideas that people are gonna put their money up and say like, sure, I'll start a business with you. And maybe that was gonna happen earlier, but I don't know that if I was Leva that I would have even given him a shot to begin with because all he had was ideas. He doesn't have any capital.

Isabella: And it's not like having a rooftop with live music is a generational idea like it's been done before.

Dad: Right. Especially in Charleston. It used to be that there were only one or two rooftops in Charleston. Now there are quite a few.

Isabella: I've been to quite a Right. Yeah. I don't know. He I mean, I wanna say he's young, but he's not young. He's older than me.

He's 30.

Dad: Yeah. They made a big deal

Isabella: about turning So yeah, he does I don't know. I think he's just very unserious, and I think he's like that a little bit with Maddie too. I hate to say it, but I don't think they're I don't think they're gonna end up together. I don't. I don't think Maddie likes him as much as he likes her, but we'll see.

So that's all I have on Southern Hospitality.

Dad: I love the show. It's have to

Isabella: say a great that show. Yeah, great show.

Dad: And in closing on this, that this is something that's been on my mind. I have an inverse relationship between how much ostentation is shown and how much glam is and how much I like the show. And what I mean by that is Real Housewives, especially currently, there's a lot of wealth displayed. You know, I have a Bentley. I have this big house.

I have a glam team that travels with me. And at the moment, most of the Housewives franchises I'm not a big fan of. In contrast, Southern Charms, Southern Hospitality, Below Deck, I'm sure it's Summer House. Summer House. There's none of that.

Right? Sure, there's some money okay. They're in the Hamptons, but they don't own that house. Right? And they're not pretending to own the house.

And it's it's just it might just be coincidence or correlation or causation, but it's I still like the shows that seem a little more authentic. And again, we're watching reality TV. We're not assuming that everything is always We

Isabella: understand that a lot of these things are not scripted, but they're not fully real either, so we understand

Dad: that Right.

Isabella: Okay. I do want to just briefly mention Atlanta and Rhode Island. I think both are really good seasons right now. No, you disagree?

Dad: You can see my face. I'll talk about it very briefly. Atlanta, this week, I felt like it was homework. It for this podcast, just thought, I don't I'd rather read and watch it at the same time, which sometimes I do. And there are a couple things.

One, it goes back to the glam thing. They're really going out of their way to show how much stuff they have. And that's not always true, but they really have. And it's the the vulgarity, and that sounds like an old super old band. No.

I I The the level of vulgarity on the show, it's it's off putting. And I don't know if it's because they feel like they have to say something that's really racy and controversial to get on camera or to get their confessional in, but I'm not a fan, so those are my very brief comments on that. On Rhode Island, I don't know what you want to cover, but two things. One, there is another podcast called Bravo Docket. Cesie and Angela, they're lawyers, they go

Isabella: to Shout out.

Dad: Yes. Shout out to Cesie and Angela at Bravo Docket. When we talk about receipts, they go through legal pleadings and filings, and a couple episodes ago, they covered Rhode Island, and they go into some detail about some legal troubles, civil and criminal, for some of the people on the show. And it's worth a listen. And then the second thing is on one of the most recent episodes, they talked about some divorces, including an update on Drew and what's her husband?

Ralph. Ralph's divorce.

Isabella: Basement man.

Dad: And I thought of that one because we're talking about both these shows, but that was an example of they go through what the pleadings are in that case for what Drew makes, and it's far less than you would ever imagine. And what Ralph claims to have made in whatever job he does is far more than I would have ever thought. So interesting. That is the only podcast that I listen to that is related to reality TV, and I've listened to it pretty religiously. What are you gonna say about Atlanta and Rhode Island?

Isabella: I just wanna add, I listen to a lot of reality TV podcasts, so I am a little bit more tapped into the social media of it all. But I like that you don't because it it makes it more genuine from you. Like, these are your real feelings. You're not just stealing your thoughts from somebody else, I guess. Atlanta, I understand what you're saying.

I do hear you. I think what is keeping me entertained is these feuds that are going on and the Read's. The Read's have been great this season. You know what that means, right? Yes.

Okay. For those that might not know, a Read is when you're it's pretty much a really good, well put insult.

Dad: Yes. Yes. So How does it differ from shade?

Isabella: I think shade is a little bit less in your face. Now, I'm not the expert on these. I think you would probably need to ask, like, can you more hair care? But, yeah, I think that no show does it like Atlanta when it comes to that. I mean, there were a couple, like Kelly, saying about Porsha, like, She's big as hell.

She beat my ass. Like, just stuff it's just good. I mean, Porsha Williams is really one of my favorite housewives ever. I think that she's usually wrong in these arguments, but I don't even care. I think she's hilarious.

I love her. What I also liked is, I don't know if you noticed, Angela and Pinky.

Dad: Oh, the fight at dinner. That was epic.

Isabella: Yes. Was earlier in the season. That was an epic fight, but what you may not have noticed in this last episode is they're hanging out together. They're friends now. After that big blowout argument, they're friends now and they're cool.

And that is one of my favorite things that happens in Housewives is what you can have the most insane argument where you said the nastiest stuff about each other, then a couple weeks later, they're hanging out. They're good. It was one of my favorite things about RHONY, Real Housewives of New York, was that they'd the same thing. They'd go crazy on each other and then just make up like nothing happened.

Dad: Well, and that's why I wonder on the Housewives franchises, maybe not production, but the cast members get together and they hatch up a plan because they feel like they have to. Because they they're unless there's drama, they're not gonna be on screen. Right? It's they're not being filmed constantly like in Summer House or another show. And you can tell when they're working together to get something.

And it it just it's frustrating, annoying. It it I guess maybe because it makes me question some of the whole reality TV, which obviously we're pretty invested in. But it's it's just I'm not a fan of what they the the things that they do to each other, and you can tell they're they're

Isabella: scheming. I do think, for Atlanta specifically, they've had an issue with that the past few seasons. I think that's why they've mixed up the cast so much because it just doesn't feel super real. And I'm not saying they fixed that completely. I just for me, I am a little bit more invested in this season than previous seasons.

And then this is kind of unrelated, but just any time NeNe Leaks pops up on my screen, it just brings me joy. And the fact that they can use her clips now because she's not in a lawsuit with Bravo anymore, like they've made up. I just love that I think they brought it up when they were talking about Cynthia's friendship contract. They brought in the clip of NeNe Leakes, and then they were talking about Porsche's classic line, 265 a year. And they brought in NeNe Leakes again.

And I just I know it's so minor, it's so little, but I just love to see that. I really do. I think it opens the door to bring her back someday.

Dad: Fingers crossed.

Isabella: Yeah, fingers crossed. Rhode Island, I don't have much to say. I think that Alicia and Liz and Jo Ellen fight was ridiculous with that poor man trying to just sing his song. And Liz lost me here. I like Liz.

I or I liked Liz. I saw a side to her this episode that freaked me out a little bit, to be honest. She definitely did pull Jo Ellen's hair, and she kicked her. She did. She's trying to say that, no, I never did that.

Why would you say it didn't? No, she did it. It's all on camera, baby. And then last thing I have to say about Rhode Island, we have a dog sighting. Did you see Dolores' dog named Dog?

No. It's my favorite Bravo animal, I've decided. Dolores' dog named Dog. Love

Dad: I'm missing that.

Isabella: Yeah, I guess you're missing it. That always made me that always gave me a giggle, and I thought it was funny when they see when we saw Dog.

Dad: I'm just fascinated with the accents because I guess I have not spent enough time around people from Rhode Island to know that they have an accent to me that's so similar to parts of Jersey, which makes sense. They're right around the corner. But it's interesting.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, I think that's all we have. Well, on my end, was there anything else you wanted to discuss before we play a little quick game?

Dad: The only random thought is I've been watching a lot of the shows and they show people eating with their mouth open and it's really annoying. Pinky did And was doing it. And can't the producers just cut that out? I don't want to see it. It's a term I can't remember.

You're just kidding. Misophonia, which I think is the sound, which of course you know drives me crazy. And then Misokinesia. You see someone eating with their mouth open, this is I know it's a me problem.

Isabella: There's airing my grievances now.

Dad: I have

Isabella: a list

Dad: of things I keep and I want to bring up every

Isabella: once

Dad: No, in

Isabella: I like that. I'm sure you'll have some people that agree with you. I disagree with you I at just don't notice it as much as you do. So this game we're gonna play, it's quick, it's simple, it's not crazy. Something that I've noticed about dad over the years as we have watched a lot of TV, he's terrible with names.

We've had one already this episode that you missed, which is why we have a cheat sheet here. I'm gonna show him an image and see if he can guess. And we got three people. I have an easy, medium, and a hard. We're gonna see if you figure out who it is.

Now, this first one, I'm starting a little easy. I think you're gonna get this one. But I've also been surprised before by who you don't know. So, here's your first girl. You need to see it closer?

Kenya.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: You get bonus points for last names.

Dad: Kenya Moore.

Isabella: Kenya Moore Hair Care. I gave it to you earlier. Yeah. Okay. Good one.

That's easy. That's level easy. Now, level medium. This image provides a hint.

Dad: Orange County? Mm-mm. Wrong.

Isabella: Maybe I could send you these pictures.

Dad: I think that that predates my time.

Isabella: No, doesn't. It sure doesn't. No. You know this woman. Not Orange County.

I will give you a hint, but not yet. Let's see if you can tell.

Dad: Oh, that's the one with the leg.

Isabella: Well, yes.

Dad: The jersey no, RHONY. Mhmm. There's no way I'll remember her name. That is the scene where she threw a leg on the table.

Isabella: Yes, you have that correct. Was curious if you'd figure out her name. That's Aviva Drescher.

Dad: Yeah, not in a million years would I remember that.

Isabella: Okay, maybe that was harder than I thought then. Okay, that last one then I really don't think you're gonna get, but we're gonna see. We're gonna see. You might surprise me. No.

No? No. Do you have a guess of a franchise?

Dad: Southern Charm?

Isabella: No. She was on actually, she's been on Beverly Hills and she's been on OC. That is Teddi Mellencamp.

Dad: Okay. I didn't watch either of those shows at that time.

Isabella: I haven't watched OC either, but we've watched Beverly Hills. You just maybe didn't see the early seasons, I guess.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So I guess, yeah, that was a tough one. The one, Teddy Mellencamp, she's the one who has brain cancer right

Dad: now.

Isabella: So all good energy for Teddy. We're wishing the best for her. But that is It's around. I think we've reached the end of our first real big episode. So hope it was enjoyable.

And anything else to say, Dad? No. Alright. Well, we will look forward to talking to you guys next time.

Dad: Thanks.

Isabella: That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

Isabella: If you like the show, leave us a rating or a comment. It helps more than you think. Follow us wherever you're listening and on social media at Check Me Boomer.

Dad: And tell a friend who'd get it.

Isabella: See you next week.

Introduction

In this bonus episode, we include a bit about our backgrounds, how we came up with the show name, and how Isabella used to sneak and watch Jersey Shore when she was little. We also spill the tea on how Dad isn't really a boomer, how Isabella got Dad addicted to reality TV, some of the shows we plan to cover, and our top-three franchise shows.

Isabella: Hi. I'm Isabella. My dad is obsessed with reality television, maybe even more so than I am.

Dad: She's not wrong.

Isabella: This is Check Me Boomer, a father daughter weekly dish on the latest in reality TV. Hi, dad.

Dad: Good morning.

Isabella: It's 2PM, but okay. Afternoon. Should we give our audience some background on who we are, maybe where we come from, and a little bit of our story and what we're gonna cover? Perfect. Alright, Dad. Do you wanna share your age and and that you're secretly not a boomer? Or—

Dad: Yes. I am mid fifties, and I think that puts me at Gen X, but I'm often referred to as a boomer by you and your brother.

Isabella: Yeah. We'll make jokes here and there, but just for the record, he's not technically a boomer.

Dad: So how did we come up with boomer in the title then?

Isabella: Good question, dad. If anyone had noticed that Check Me Boo is a Sheree Whitfield reference.

Dad: An homage, if you will.

Isabella: An homage. Yes. So who gonna check me boo is one of our favorite quotes. So we took some inspiration from there. I'll share that I am 28 years old. So I am on the cusp of Gen Z millennial. So we got a little bit of an age difference here. Of course, it's my dad. So do you wanna start with dad kind of how you started watching reality TV, kind of how we started watching it together even when I was little?

Dad: Sure. I'll give you the Reader's Digest version. That's a boomer reference if there ever was one. Reality TV probably started with real world, and I can't remember my age at that time, but I wasn't a kid. It started in your mother and I watched it pretty religiously, then moved on to Jersey Shore, and then we were probably watching Orange County in real life as you kids say these days on a weekly basis.

Isabella: And—

Dad: then Atlanta and some others that we can probably come back to, but then there was a big resurgence that I think you wanna cover during COVID where we caught up with some of the better, more iconic franchises, especially RHONJ. And maybe we should explain how we sometimes refer to them by saying it that way.

Isabella: Yeah. We'll get there. I wanna say first that I started watching reality TV with Survivor and American Idol, Biggest Loser, America's Next Top Model, some of those shows that now we can call pretty controversial. But I would always come into the living room to watch shows with my parents, and those were the shows we'd watch. You mentioned Jersey Shore. What's funny is as a child, I also watched Jersey Shore. You just didn't know about it. So once I got the Interesting. So once I once I got the TV in my bedroom, when I turned, what, maybe 12, I would put on Jersey Shore in my room, but I'd leave my door open so I could see you coming down the hallway. And as I saw you coming down the hallway, I'd put my finger on the previous button and go back to Disney Channel. So you had no idea I was watching Jersey Shore.

Dad: Classic.

Isabella: So, yeah, then after that, we COVID kind of thrust us more into the Bravo sphere where, yes, we started with RHONJ, which translates to the Real Housewives of New Jersey. We followed that with RHONY, the Real Housewives of New York. My mother and I watched a lot of summer house and southern charm when you were traveling a bit. So you have since come into those as well.

Dad: Yes. With a vengeance.

Isabella: Yes. Now we have since added some shows. Like, I introduced my father to Love Island.

Dad: I'm addicted. It's quite a franchise. It's a lot of work and a lot of episodes each week.

Isabella: Sure is, but it's worth it. So we will, of course, be covering that when the new season drops on June 2. Speaking of that, some of the other shows that we do plan on covering are Anything Bravo, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Selling Sunset, The Bachelor franchise, Perfect Match, Temptation Island. I will cover maybe a little bit of Survivor and Big Brother. Dad, maybe I know you love your American Idol. Maybe you can mention a word or two on that when it comes back around. Any anything that you can think of that I missed, dad?

Dad: No. I'll just cover a couple of those. Survivor was something that we watched from the beginning, but it just kind of got old to me. There's not enough drama, especially towards the end. All the people that are dramatic and controversial seem to be weeded out, and that three person episode where they just re reel in the memories of everyone who's lost is just it's a little bit too much for me. And I guess I just kind of think it's jumped the shark, and so I kinda pass on survivor. American Idol is is one that no one else seems to watch in the family, but to me, it's the most uplifting. Not like the old school. I don't know about that, but it's it's certainly gets close. And then it's it's it's the opposite of how it used to be when it was a lot of abuse of people and saying how horrible they are, and Simon was iconic in that. And now it's much more, you're great. You're great. But still they bring people out of the woodwork who would never otherwise make a splash. And so I I like the opportunity for those people to succeed.

Isabella: No more pants on the ground?

Dad: No. No. I haven't seen that in a while.

Isabella: Okay. Well, so we will pretty much be covering anything reality TV. Anything we don't cover, feel free to leave a comment, and we will definitely look into it. I had a couple questions for you, dad.

Dad: Sure. Shoot.

Isabella: So I wanna ask you how you feel about the men that might judge you for watching reality TV or say, like, oh, that's only for that's only for women and gay men. What do you what do you say to those people?

Dad: I don't really care what they think. I think they're missing out. And it's sort of like there was a time period where people said if you drink White Claw, you have an issue. And I have a friend who was in the Navy Seals, and he drinks White Claw and says, I don't really care. I kinda think of this obviously, I'm not a Navy Seal. I never did anything of the sort. But if he can drink White Claws without guilt or concern, I can certainly watch Bravo TV and other reality TV shows. Plus, it gives us something to talk about not just you, but your mother and I with you. And as we'll come to in the season, I'm sure there are a lot of things that happen in reality TV that could be this might be a stretch, life lessons. Like, quick example, how the people on Love Island UK deal with controversy and conflict, it just baffles me. We've talked about this before. How can they it's something in The United States version. They would be throwing hands. So if if we could just take a lesson from the folks on that show, the world might be a better place.

Isabella: Yeah. I like that. I like that. My second question is for both of us, and I didn't give you time to think about this, but I want you to, off the top of your head, give me your top three reality TV shows of all time. This is including Bravo, including everything else.

Dad: By franchise or episodes?

Isabella: By franchise.

Dad: I'd probably say RHONJ, especially because the episode with the table flip. "You prostitution whore!" Mhmm. That's up there. And the whole franchise, at least until it kind of petered off and changed and got too much of a conflict between Teresa and Melissa, then I would say I might go with RHOSLC, which is Real Housewives of Salt Lake City that's almost a lisp sounding when we say it. But that and the Mormon Housewives, which I I can never keep the name straight. What is it again?

Isabella: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Right.

Dad: Right. MomTok? Yes. There's something in the water in Salt Lake City and Provo because two franchises to come out and have such incredible drama in so few seasons. It's it's crazy. That's three. So you asked for three. That's those are my top three, I would say. Yeah. At least off the top of my head.

Isabella: So I thought about this a little bit more, but I didn't I didn't think about it too in-depth. I have four. Okay. But I'm gonna, again, I'm gonna give one an honorable mention. So I'm gonna go Love Island as number one, actually.

Dad: Wow.

Isabella: And and this is it's I'm mostly referring to the earlier UK seasons. If you know, you know, when they were smoking cigarettes, chain smoking all day long. I I love it. It's the best.

Dad: Did they have only one drink per day, Max?

Isabella: I don't think they had that limit back then.

Dad: I might have to go back and watch those earlier seasons then.

Isabella: Second, I'm actually going to put RHONY.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Because that group of women, there's just they they struck gold with that. They really did. And I'm so glad that they're going back to it, they're filming a new show called The Golden Life. I will be very excited to cover that. Third, I'm going to I'm I'm a little biased because I will say we do live in Atlanta. We're from the Atlanta Metro Area. I'm gonna go with Real Housewives of Atlanta for number three.

Dad: Which we do not refer to as RHOA for some reason.

Isabella: It doesn't it doesn't sound the same.

Dad: No. It doesn't roll off the top.

Isabella: But Nene Leakes, Porsha Williams, Kenya Moore, I mean, Kim Zolciak even, those are my girls. I don't know if we reached a level of drama that we reached in Atlanta in any other franchise. My honorable mention is going to be Vanderpump rules—

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: which is one really one of the best ones. I couldn't leave it out.

Dad: Quick question on a couple of those. On Vanderpump and RHONY, are you referring to the original OG cast or the revamps?

Isabella: I'm not referring to the revamps. Not even a little bit. I think both revamps are terrible if I'm being completely honest. I I still watch both of them, but you can't even compare the two.

Dad: Maybe it's more generous to say they're in the early phases of development.

Isabella: And and that's why I'm watching them because I'll give them a chance, and I know that shows can grow. So I'm giving them a chance. But, yeah, it's it's not looking good so far. You you can't you can't match the Jax Taylor, Stassi Schroeder effect. You you just can't find that again.

Dad: Well, I don't take issue with any of the four, but you did have a chance to think about it.

Isabella: I did. So when we come back, if you if you wanna change your top three, we can revisit this.

Dad: I'll think about it.

Isabella: I'm sure we'll revisit this a few times. So That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

Isabella: If you like the show, leave us a rating or a comment. It helps more than you think. Follow us wherever you're listening and on social media at Check Me Boomer. And tell a friend who'd get it. See you next week.