"You had two girls, now you have none!" plus Summer House and Love Island USA

We cover the bonanza of bombshells on Love Island UK, Sincere (is he?) and Sol and Melanie and other Love Island USA key moments, Southern Hospitality, Real Housewives of Atlanta and Rhode Island, plus In the City and Below Deck Med. We also ask whether Dad's lack of familiarity with slang is because he's old or if they are UK specific.

Isabella: Welcome back.

Dad: Welcome.

Isabella: This is welcome to episode two.

Dad: We have lots to cover today.

Isabella: Lots to cover.

Dad: As always.

Isabella: Crazy week on both Love Island UK and USA. I think we got a few more things to cover as well, but it'll be a pretty Love Island focused again this week.

Dad: How about Summer House episode three of the reunion?

Isabella: Yes. That we have some things to discuss as well. I think we also have I have a couple notes on Atlanta, Rhode Island, and Below Deck Med. And then, I guess, a couple more notes for Southern Hospitality, along with Summer House in the city and both Love Islands, of course.

Dad: Where do you wanna start?

Isabella: Should we start with UK again since we did just watch the Sunday episode a little bit ago?

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: So I think we should go back and start from the start of the week, but I do wanna say we have some some boy versus girl going on right now. I think we've got a split in the group as as we speak. So do you wanna talk about that, dad, or should we go back a little bit?

Dad: I think we can cover that. My initial comment is that's what they're showing now, but by the next episode, everything will be copacetic. They'll all be lovey dovey again. It's just The UK way.

Isabella: Yeah. That is that is, I guess, usually what happens. But but we'll see. I think there might be some lingering feelings this time around. So for context, the Love Island UK folks, they had a challenge.

And this challenge consisted of the girls sliding down a slide and then grabbing a cocktail and reading a fact about a fellow islander, and then they had to guess who that islander is by throwing the cocktail in the islander's face. Now, of course, this was boys versus girls, so the boys were guessing the girls and vice versa. Now while this challenge is going on, you can kind of see the men starting to get upset. And I don't really know where this is coming from. I guess it kind of started with Opie.

I would say that one of the facts that was read is that I think it was something like this boy has acknowledged that he has a wandering eye. Okay. Fine. So the girls identify that it is Simba. And then they're they're saying something like, well, it's okay as long as you don't act on it.

Opie did not like to hear that, because Opie said, well, why is it okay when he does it, but it's not okay when I do it? Which I guess, I understand where he's coming from, but here's where the difference is, Opie. You said that to Angelista, not maybe not to her, but it it was at her expense. This discussion of, okay, Simba has had a wandering eye in the past, that's not at anyone else's expense in this island right now. Same thing happened with Aiden.

One of the facts was coming back on Yasmin, saying that she in the past had mistaken names and called a guy by her ex's name. Now the same thing, Aiden got mad and said, well, why is it okay when you do it? Well, the difference here, Aiden, is that you did that to Yasmin. Yasmin's not doing that to you. So I I get why they're so frustrated, but they're getting mad at the girls for this.

And that is what is irritating me. Like, these guys are acting like such losers. They're actually embarrassing themselves, I think. Aiden and Opie specifically. Then we have Sam Raj coming in, but I think I'm I'm speaking too much, so I wanna let you what do you have any thoughts on this?

Whose team are you on?

Dad: I I get what the guys were saying, but then I ended up falling more on the ladies' side afterwards where they were saying that they're moping too much. But in general, the whole thing is just kind of BS because that's how starved the show is for drama that this simplistic game, and they're talking about things that could have had happened years ago. So no one should really care about it too But then they all get worked up about it in contrast to the drama that goes on on USA. It's it's like night and day difference. So we're it's interesting that we're focusing on such a tiny thing in the grand scheme of things.

Isabella: Yeah. It actually took me a little bit to even figure out what the boys were upset about. I mean, while they're playing the game, I see they're they're getting all mouthy, and I don't understand why. So

Dad: Maybe the best argument that the guys had was when the women said that at least one of them keeps a list of on her notes on her phone of specifically who and how many men she slept with, that if a man admitted keeping and I think it's happened on prior episodes or prior seasons, would definitely set them off as being grotesque or disgusting or something else. I'm trying to remember which season it was, but it seemed like someone had admitted to keeping a list. It caused I

Isabella: will say keeping a list is not the craziest thing I've ever heard, but I do understand that I I get what they're saying in that if if roles were reversed, it would have been more of a problem coming from the men. I think that that there is a point to be made there. But like what Jasmine brought up, is, yes, you can say there are double standards, but if you wanna talk about that, then we have to talk about it both ways. And there are so many more double standards on women. So it's just I don't think it's really worth these men, boys getting so upset over.

I think that they're kind of just trying to pull the attention off of them. I do like that the girls finally seem to be standing up for themselves. They feel like they've finally grown some balls, and they're gonna call out these men, these boys for being stupid. I mean, just being weirdos. I wanna mention Samraj and Priya's conversation where they it got a little bit heated.

Samraj, you can tell he's getting so frustrated. I could just see it in his body language. And then he start he got he gets so angry. He says, you're just embarrassing. Gets up and starts to walk off.

And then Priya, to that, she goes, f off. And Samraj did not like that. They're, of course, going back and forth, said, you called me embarrassing. Well, you told me to f off. Well, because you called me embarrassing.

I'm definitely team Mika, Micah?

Dad: Mika.

Isabella: Mika. I'm definitely team Mika on that because Sam Raj, it he just is I don't really get where he's coming from either, but, you know.

Dad: Next episode, he's gonna apologize. They're gonna hug it out. It's over.

Isabella: You're totally right. My biggest problem, I think, with these men is Aiden. Aiden is his attitude, it it's just really starting to piss me off. Like, when he is talking to Jasmine saying that the way she was acting was off putting. Like, who are you to say that?

You're not even her couple. Like, I he and he's not even all that. Like, I get that he has girls that like him, but I I don't see it at all.

Dad: I do have to give him some credit because his persistence may have paid off in that he went back to first of all, Ellie staying on the show was the best moment of the week because she's my favorite. I love what she says. I again, the accent just kills me. She won't put up with any BS. I think that she would be the easiest to get along with personally.

And when Aiden went back to her and again said unfinished business, and then she said, okay, maybe I deaded it off a little too early. And then I thought, no, don't give in. I what's wrong with you? But then she's admitted that she she it might be a a her problem.

Isabella: Yeah. I think it's a both of them problem. I can't keep up with those two. Like, one day they're like, no, there was never a thing here. And then the next day they're like, oh, well, maybe there is unfinished business.

So I feel like every episode it changes. We really didn't see much of Ellie on this episode.

Dad: For the whole week, really.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that. Speaking of Ellie, though, since you mentioned that she was allowed to stay, I guess we should go back to the beginning of the week. Ellie and Samraj got a text that if the Bombshells didn't choose to couple up with them, then they would get dumped.

So, of course, the Bombshells did choose to couple up with them, so they got to stay. So no issue with that. Now, the Bombshells, do we who do we remember who it was coming in? It was Tommy and Simba? No.

No. That's later in the week.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: The Bombshells at that point were Kavan. Kavan and was it just Kavan?

Dad: I've already lost track. This is the complication of the show. It has so many episodes that they all kind of bleed together. It probably doesn't matter.

Isabella: And Priya. Priya. It was Cavan and Priya. Okay. So Cavan picked Ellie to couple up with, and Priya picked Samraj, and so they all got to stay.

Now, will say, do I think that that was ever gonna not happen? No. I think Samraj, it's very obvious he likes Mika more, but he wasn't gonna not pick Priya and have her sent home. Same thing with Kavan. I think Kavan is probably now it wasn't it was a little bit harder to tell when he first came in, but I think now it's pretty simple to tell that he was always into Jasmine the most.

But it was nice of them to keep Samraj and Ellie around, so that was nice. I do think Priya was immediately kind of obsessed with Lorenzo, I will say. I mean, I think she was kind of giggling and kicking her feet laughing, like talking to him the first time. I think she's really into him, which I get. I mean, he's the best looking one there.

And how about George? Let's talk about George and his disappearance.

Dad: Right. Oh, good. I I'd already forgotten who he was.

Isabella: You forgot about George already. See, that's

Dad: how

Isabella: quick this show moves is there was a whole extra guy that just kind of left, and you don't even remember him.

Dad: I do now. Well He was the Targaryen.

Isabella: Yes. He was the Targaryen. So George, that night, ended up recoupling with Mika because Samraj was with Priya, so George recoupled with Mika. George and Robin then go up to the terrace, and they kiss, which George didn't really seem like he wanted to do initially because he thought it was disrespectful. Of course, then Mika finds out and she, in fact, does believe it was disrespectful.

And I think I agree. I mean, I think it was a little bit too soon. I get that George probably did like Robin more, and Robin clearly likes him. But I do think that they could've waited a little bit longer. So I think George's first kind of intuition there was the correct one.

And then I think that, what was it, the next episode after that, we just hear George had to leave. Right. And I have since found out that he did have a family emergency, so all well wishes to him and his family. I actually think he was doing very well on the show, so it does suck that he had to leave. It especially sucks because my girl Robin then got dumped a little bit later in the week.

So do we wanna talk about that? Do we wanna talk about Robin at all? You're not really into Robin, Nothing I

Dad: against her, but I just didn't get much from her.

Isabella: Robin, I agree. We didn't get much from her, but everything that I did that we did get, I really loved. Like, when Opie came in well, let's back up a little bit. The boys had a night where they got to go meet a couple new Bombshells, and the girls stayed back and watched them on the screen, which I I love that they do this. It's the second season in a row that they've done this, and it causes great drama.

The boys, for whatever reason, have no idea that they're being watched.

Dad: That's so dumb. They've surely watched the show.

Isabella: Yeah. You would think that they would have some sort of indication like, oh, the girls are back at the villa. Maybe they're watching us. Nope. They're just stupid.

So Opie goes on to make a fool of himself. He immediately says he has wandering eyes. He's not really feeling the slow pace that Angelista has kind of imposed, I guess. Where Robin comes in here is when all the boys come back to the villa. Opie immediately gets extremely defensive.

He almost starts yelling at Angelista, he's kind of yelling at the other girls, acting like it's their problem. Robin was not having any of that. Robin called him out immediately, said, Why are you so angry? There's no reason for you to be all like this. And in that, whatever that accent is, that is just so funny that I just cannot understand what she's saying, but I think it's hilarious.

Dad: She's Liverpudlian, and they call her a scouser.

Isabella: Yes. That's what yeah. The scouser. I love that accent. I think she's hilarious.

So I was bummed when she got dumped. I was yeah. I was pretty bummed. So Robin getting dumped, that was unfortunate for me. Now, I I will say I don't know who I would have preferred to get dumped in her place.

But, yeah, I I think that she had a lot more to give, so that's unfortunate. Also, regarding the little boy's getaway to go meet the Bombshells, I think Aiden again back to Aiden. I think he made a bit of a fool of himself too. He said again that he's like what was the line? That he's in a sandwich with Ellie and Yasmin.

I think that was the pretty much the exact line. Of course, Ellie and Yasmin were not really a big fan of that. So what I loved, and this is back to reasons why we love Ellie, is the next day Ellie called both of them over and said, we're gonna have a little sandwich conversation. And you can see Aiden is like, no, I don't wanna have this conversation. He's kind of pouting about it.

She's like, no, we're gonna do it. We're gonna have it. Pretty sure she told Aiden asked for a hug at some point, and she was like, no, I think I could you can dap me up, but no. Like, we're I'm not hugging you. Loved that.

That I thought was hilarious.

Dad: But then she went back and said, I'll hug you because I don't want you to feel bad.

Isabella: Yeah. So she does she's she's very sweet, but I really like that side of her that's fiery. And I'm I'm loving that from Jasmine too, especially with the kind of getting on all those other boys after all of their pouting and moping after the challenge. So yeah, Jasmine and Ellie, I think, are the top girls right now. They're the most interesting to me at least, at the moment, but these things change.

Dad: Well, notwithstanding that Ellie's my favorite, I think she might be at the biggest risk of getting booted. All hinges on whether the new guy is it Tommy?

Isabella: Tommy and Simba.

Dad: Yes. Well, Simba's out for her, so Tommy is her only chance unless there's another Bombshell that comes in. I think otherwise, no one seems to be saying, oh, I think I wanna get to know Ellie. How was that for an accent?

Isabella: Not great.

Dad: Certainly not Scottish.

Isabella: Yeah. Okay. We've we've have seen a lot of Bombshells come in this week, and I am trying to even remember. We we already mentioned Kavan.

Dad: Simba, Tommy.

Isabella: No. Simba and Tommy were later.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: We had Kavan and Priya. Okay. They were cut they came in at the very beginning of the week or the end of last week. And then we had Namibia and Victoria

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Come in in the middle of the week. And then at the end here we had Simba and Tommy. So we've had quite a few Bombshells to keep track of this week. I wanna I guess we can kinda mention who these bombshells are kinda feeling, who they're talking to. As of Sunday's episode, it appears that Kavan and Jasmine are together.

Jasmine already seems to be getting a little bit irritated with him, and I don't blame her one bit. She was kind of hoping he'd be a little bit more defensive of her in the challenge. I get that. Priya is now with Lorenzo, which they're another interesting couple because Lorenzo has made it clear to Priya that she is not his number one. He actually told her straight up, you're my number two.

Yasmin is my number one. And she was like, okay. Fine by me. So that's that's where they are. Then we have Victoria and Namibia.

They were both kind of with Sam for a little bit, which Sam, messy.

Dad: Wow. He has been either completely out of the game for a long time, I can't throw stones, but or never had game to go from being someone who wasn't getting any attention to having two bombshells interested in him. And your mother and I debated which one was better looking. I thought Namibia. But then he couldn't have gone more wrong in his interaction between them.

And I still think he is at risk of losing both of them. But we'll see.

Isabella: Yeah. I mean, he's kind of telling them both. Like, when he was when he immediately after he kissed, I believe it was Victoria on the terrace, he came down, spoke with Namibia, and he pretty much told her, like, I kind of wish it was you that I was kissing.

Dad: But before he kissed Victoria, he had already told Namibia, you're my number one. If I was gonna pick someone right now, it would be you.

Isabella: Yeah. So he's just messy, and he seemed sweet to me, and it's still I'm not saying he isn't, but yeah, I see the player side of him for sure.

Dad: But it could be that he is sweet, and he just is not good at this, doesn't do it much, and is floundering around and saying what comes to mind without really thinking it through.

Isabella: Fair. I guess, well, he's like the the lower stakes version of sincere from USA right now. Just kind of keeping two girls on the hook.

Dad: I think it's more by accident. He's

Isabella: Oh, okay. Okay.

Dad: Because if they weren't after him, I don't know that he would have the wherewithal to go after them.

Isabella: That's true. Well, I don't know. I mean, do we even know what his type is? I think he's just kind of going for the people that go for him. I do think that these Bombshells probably went for him because they knew he was available.

Do the Bombshells even actually like him? I don't know.

Dad: Good question.

Isabella: We're gonna find that out though. I mean, this most recent episode, I don't think we saw any of Sam or really those Bombshells. But we're gonna have to it's early days for them, so we'll see more. Other than that, is there anything else you wanna say about UK? I wanna say really quickly that I think my top girl is Jasmine, and I think my top boy is Lorenzo right now.

Even though I do kind of go back and forth on him, I think he is I don't think he treats girls the best. Like he needs to learn how to give a compliment. I also am not a big fan of how he's like comparing girls to cars and I don't love all that, but he is funny, and he kind of made up for a lot of that on this most recent episode when all the girls were coming in being like, Guys, why are you all moping around? And he jumps up and says, I don't have any issue.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: Like, just that just made me laugh. So he's funny. He's annoying, but he's funny, and he's my favorite right now too.

Dad: Okay. There is something I want to talk about, and it covers it's broader than The UK, but it came to mind. There are a lot of sayings on there that I'm not familiar with. And going back to me teasing you for sounding British when you said you like a slow burn in the last episode, it made me wonder, are some of these phrases geographic? Meaning, they're they're particular to The United Kingdom plus Ireland, or are these things that I just don't know?

So questions to you. I'll give you a couple. Are these boomer or British? And sorry. It I have to go with the alliteration because boomer British sounds good, and I know that that doesn't necessarily include all of what's covered by Love Island UK specifically, including The Republic Of Ireland.

So first one, Lambo in the driveway. Never heard that before. Do you know what it means? I'm pretty sure that that is British, not boomer.

Isabella: I kind of think that that's just a Lorenzo thing.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Like, don't know if that's specific to either. I think that's just going back to Lorenzo calling the girls cars.

Dad: This one is one I looked up, and it's a reference to the grass is always greener, meaning I left the Lambo in the driveway because I could have had something different. Mhmm. And I think it's a stupid saying, by the way. So next one, ticking boxes.

Isabella: That I believe is British.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Not to say that it's it hasn't been used in America, because I do think that we are picking up some of the British phrases a little bit more. But that is definitely British. That was a big thing on the early UK seasons. They would always say, oh, he's ticking all the boxes.

Dad: I I thought that was the case. I hear on US that they say checking boxes, which of course Mhmm. Sounds like a derivation. But how about they used to say early days, now they say early doors.

Isabella: I think they still use both. Those are interchangeable. I

Dad: But would say British or Boomer?

Isabella: British.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: I'm gonna say British.

Dad: How about dead it?

Isabella: I think that one's also British.

Dad: Yeah. Okay. I cheated on that one. That comes from Caribbean, so it might be broader than just UK and Ireland. Yeah.

How about this is a new one to me, pranging out.

Isabella: That is definitely British because I don't even know what that means.

Dad: I think freaking out or, you know, they used to describe opie. What about dead ass? Boomer or British?

Isabella: Okay. Well, when you say boomer, it's like

Dad: Meaning, I don't know it because I'm older.

Isabella: Then that's the one. Boomer. And

Dad: then, what's the crack? C r a I c.

Isabella: Okay. That is British.

Dad: Technically, it's Irish, but yes.

Isabella: Okay. Well

Dad: He's t, t e a.

Isabella: This is where I think it's maybe both. I think maybe it originated in as a British phrase, but it's definitely an American now.

Dad: Okay. Two more quick ones. Buzzin'?

Isabella: Buzzin', I think, is British, but that's another one that kind of has stretched a little bit.

Dad: And then here's one that I've heard before going back to even my generation, but I heard it this season, boss.

Isabella: That's a new one to me too. That must be like present day UK slang, because I hadn't really heard that in previous seasons.

Dad: Okay. I said those were the last two. I'm sorry. He in a sandwich. That's new to me.

Is that is that British or is that just

Isabella: think that's

Dad: That just Aidan?

Isabella: I think that's just a regular figure of speech. Oh, stop. Come on.

Dad: I'm in a love triangle. I'm in a sandwich.

Isabella: Well, okay. I guess, yeah. I guess it's just Aiden. I guess the proper term would have been love triangle.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Well, that's not oh, guess it was Aiden that said it. Yeah.

Dad: Okay. To be determined, it could be none of the above. It could just be

Isabella: Aiden just Okay. Points

Dad: Okay. So that that's really all I have. Obviously, nothing substantive for The UK.

Isabella: Okay. Alright. Interesting, though. Does it make you feel better that most of them are British and not just you being

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Behind? Yes. Okay. Alright. Well, are we ready to move on

Dad: Move on.

Isabella: To USA? Let's go. Okay. So another busy week for USA. I think probably less busy than UK, but we still have a lot to talk about.

We we started the week with poor, sweet Sean getting dumped, and I'm not sure if we talked about that mayor last week regarding Sean. Did Did I ever mention this to you?

Dad: You didn't. I had heard about it, and of course it comes up in Aftersun .

Isabella: Yeah. Well, you know, I feel kind of bad that he got for context, Sean was dumped from Love Island. He is a former police officer somewhere in Pennsylvania. Before the season started airing, the mayor of that town came out and kind of was hating on Sean for quitting his job because I guess they he's saying they put in a lot of taxpayer dollars to train him and just kind of dogging on that he quit his job as a cop to go beyond reality TV. I think he got a lot of people defending him because, I mean, if you want reality TV is gonna make you more money than being a police officer is.

I mean, people can argue about it, but in the in the present day of influencing, and if you're on a TV show, you can immediately get all these brand deals, I don't fault him one bit for doing that. I mean, he was trying to do what was best for himself. What sucks though is that he was the first one to leave. So my immediate thought was, would the mayor maybe take him back? Or

Dad: Well, and I did watch Aftersun after having said I hate After Sun and Unseen Bits, but it was Sierra and then Tefi, who I'm not familiar with as the cohost. But in that he said it wasn't really clear that he quit. He asked for unpaid leave, and they said they weren't sure that they could do it. So it's not sure it wasn't clear even in the Aftersun interview whether he still works there, is on some kind of hiatus or sabbatical or not. But I can't imagine that he would go back, at least without first trying to monetize this.

I know that sounds a little harsher than I mean, but he's gonna have some offers. Notwithstanding that he's the first one who was booted, he went out on a high note. He didn't I don't think he did anything that came across as negative, at least that would impact him as an influencer. Not that having negative things doesn't often help people.

Isabella: Right. I mean, we've seen

Dad: it. He seems to be pretty immune or not tainted by anything that he did inside the house.

Isabella: Yeah. He does really just seem like a good guy. I think a lot of people were upset that he left. I've seen a lot of people calling for him to be on Casa Amor, and I'm just like, guys, calm down. Like, people are gonna get dumped.

We don't need to bring them all back for Casa Amor. It's it's just I've seen that already for, spoiler alert, Beatrice too. Like, no, we're not bringing them back. Sorry. We're not.

Speaking of Aftersun , before we kind of go back, I do wanna say I I usually do watch Unseen Bits and After Sun. And what I like that they're doing this year is I like that they're seeing their reactions to getting their phones for the first time. I'm always and it might be a little bit scripted, like you said. Like, they obviously know that they're being filmed opening their phone. But I I did always kind of wonder that for the people that get dumped, what is it like to open their phone for the first time?

So I that is interesting to me. It's still not I mean, it's nothing groundbreaking, but it's it's

Dad: Not yet.

Isabella: Not yet. Yeah.

Dad: And and that is one thing. When I was watching, obviously, the producers are looking forward to a situation where someone has a lot of backlash online and opening their phone and being surprised to see it. Like, could you imagine if they had done that for Huda from USA last season and she opens it? That would hopefully, would have edited out because that probably wouldn't have gone or didn't go well when she found out the level of distaste or Right. Pick your word Yeah.

For how she acted in the show.

Isabella: Well, think that goes both ways too because I think also there are people that are fan favorites that I'd like to see them opening their phone and being like, oh my gosh, all these people love me and I had no idea. Like we've had a few people that really got big off the show. One is Leah from a couple seasons ago. She did a whole YouTube video about how she thought she was hated on the show, and then she came home and realized that she was the fan favorite, that everybody loved her, and it was the most insane thing for her to open up her phone for the first time.

Dad: I've already forgotten who that is. You don't need to explain, but and I was trying to rationalize this in my mind the other night. I'm working on it. I got the names down for this season, but I also know that as soon as the season's over, they're out. They're done.

I I will not pay any attention and will completely forget it. It's a capacity issue maybe at my age. I'm running out of space, but I'm peace with it.

Isabella: It's hard when it comes to Love Island because I feel like I usually remember the most memorable islanders. So like that season that I'm talking about, I remember Leah, Janae, and Serena, and of course Rob from that season, that was the season that Kahler was on. You're looking at me like, I got no idea any of those things.

Dad: I'm also thinking of all the other things that I forget as soon as they happen. I I can't couldn't tell you who won the Super Bowl in the last two years or the World Series just because, you know, it's over.

Isabella: Back to Love Island USA. I wanna talk about that bed challenge where they have to find their partner, and once they've found them, they handcuff them together. Now, when they're explaining these rules, they're just telling them, you just have to feel the people and figure out who your partner is. They're not saying, like, you have to make out with every single person on this bed. Right.

They never said that. No. But I do think that

Dad: They didn't say you have to make out with any of them.

Isabella: No. So when they immediately all start doing that, I'm like, okay, they got production behind the scenes being like, yeah, we know what we said, but this is what the game really is.

Dad: Well, and that's a good point with a lot of things in reality television that they will tell you one thing on the screen, but there's probably a lot going on. Like, I got into a fight with someone online about the the mister beast challenge and whether it was income to the people, and it long tangent, but there's always something else being said or not said that matters. And so, yes, the the first contestant, I can't remember which one it was, who she kissed everyone.

Isabella: I don't I don't remember which one it was either. But yeah, I do remember whoever went first definitely did that. What I remember the most about that challenge was

Dad: I think it was Trinity.

Isabella: It wasn't Trinity because we know that Trinity stopped at Bryce. Because I remember she knew it was Bryce and she stopped there and immediately handcuffed him, and Bryce reacted from that. He was like, okay, this is great. So I remember that it was, I don't know who it was, but the other shocker, I guess, maybe not even shocker, but Melanie going back and forth from Corbin to Sincere, back to Corbin, back to Sincere, and her trying to tell us that she didn't know which one was which. I mean

Dad: Well, in fairness, they kept saying, how could you not tell a five eleven versus a six two? Okay. That's she wasn't measuring them. Maybe if if he had a bigger giant head and shoulders or something like that, but she was just kissing them. I do agree with you.

I think that she was just taking advantage of the opportunity. And she at one point, they showed her saying something along the lines of, can't tell which one's better, which doesn't sound like I can't tell which one is my man.

Isabella: Right. I think she knew exactly what she was doing, and she saw an opportunity, and she took it, which is fine. I mean, it's a challenge, so it's not the first time we've seen something like that a challenge. Of course, Sincere was not a big fan of that, but we'll get to Sincere a little bit more. I do think the the way that they brought in the Bombshells was very interesting to me, especially the the female bombshells coming in, just kind of inserting themselves while the other girls are going, and they were kind of starting to figure it out, but they were all still blindfolded, so I thought that was good.

And then bringing in Caleb, the guy Bombshell at the end, and just having him go down the line and kiss every single girl.

Dad: Right. Right. Oh, which reminds me, someone in the show said, oh, he's a cowboy. He's he's from North Carolina.

Isabella: I know.

Dad: He lives in Charleston. It people from the South aren't automatically cowboys. I'm pretty sure that that's out West. Now, he does wear it later in another episode, a cowboy hat and cowboy boots. But, oh, he's a cowboy.

Isabella: I think the northerners like to say that, and I think a lot of the southerners just kind of go along with it. Because, I mean, we know Kenzie is from Kennesaw. We know that Kennesaw, Georgia is not full of cowboys. Like, maybe few, but we're just southerners. So I do think that they sometimes just go along with it.

I think even Caleb, the guy who's being called the cowboy, I think he's even just going along with it.

Dad: Right. Right.

Isabella: He's like, I mean, it's not an insult, so whatever. Call me a cowboy.

Dad: Well, another quick quote that I wrote down when Bryce said in a confessional, there's no moral paragon here. I thought, okay, that might be the two biggest words put together in the history, if not definitely this season. I thought, wow, impressive.

Isabella: I really enjoy Bryce. I really do. He is my number two guy right now behind Casey. And while we're on the topic of Bryce, I wanna talk about Bryce and Trinity. I really like them together.

I think Bryce had a moment this week where I think honestly, I think Zach got in his head. I think Zach is kind of telling him, like, oh, he doesn't really know about you guys. Like, I don't know if Trinity's really into it. I don't know if you're really into her. I feel like kind of you have more fun when she's not around.

I don't even remember what exactly he was saying, but he was definitely getting into Bryce's head a little bit. So Bryce and Trinity have a conversation, and Trinity tells him that she wants more affection, which I do wanna say is a little bit confusing because early on, she was telling him that she didn't like kissing, But now you want more affection. I mean, I know it's been a couple weeks now, but okay, great. I don't like how Bryce immediately goes and is like, I wanna talk to Kayda and see if there's something there. Of course, Kayda The face that Kayda gave him when he when he starts being like, I just wanted to see if there was something there between us.

And she just immediately rejects him. I love that. But I I'm really rooting for Bryce and Trinity. I am. I don't know if they're gonna make it.

I don't know if they really are super compatible, but they're the ones that I'm rooting for the most at the moment, I think. Behind Casey and Anaya. But Casey and Anaya just don't get enough screen time. I don't think we've seen any issues between them other than the little blip at the challenge where she was like, that's not funny.

Dad: Right. Well, and this goes back to supporting my UK plus Ireland, everyone is more polite hypothesis because Bryce went to what's his name? Zach. And asked for permission to talk to Kayda in advance. And I don't know that the typical American would have reacted the same way.

Yes. He was a little bit miffed, but he didn't get upset. It happened. Bryce gets shot down, comes back and says, here's what happened. I feel awkward.

It's it's over. It's solved. It within one episode, it's completely all good.

Isabella: Yeah. It was definitely weird, though. And I think I've said this before. I'm not a fan of Zach, and I haven't really been able to put my finger on it. I think he's he's a little bit wishy washy right now.

Like, I I he was confusing me when he after that, was it the bed challenge where he was telling her that he kind of almost feels like he wants to be closed off. And he maybe didn't say those exact words, but he did mention closed off. And when it comes to Love Island, the phrase closed off is pretty serious, especially when it's early on like this. So for him to say the words closed off, you could see Cate's eyes kind of light up a little bit.

Dad: I know, but I think that this is much ado about nothing. It's sort of like on some of these other reality shows where someone says, I'm falling for you, which you know is like an early way of saying, I'm falling in love with you. I'm in love with you. This he said, I'm sort of thinking about us being closed off. Something along those lines.

He definitely had the had the caveat. Mhmm. And sure, she focused on the words, but she didn't hear the caveat at the beginning. And it it was a a little bit of drama for a few minutes, and then it's already gone.

Isabella: Yeah. No. I agree. It's definitely already gone since then. I just I didn't like it just came off weird to me because one minute he's talking about being potentially closed off, and then the next minute when the girls are gone getting ready for bed, he's talking about like, oh, I don't know why I feel like I'm in a relationship already.

Like, saying it negatively to Bryce. So then I'm thinking like, okay. So which one is it though? Like, do you do you want to be this way, or is it freaking you out? Like, which one?

I think yeah. He's just very wishy washy. And then when it comes to he started talking to the new Bombshell Jen. I'm thinking, I thought you weren't into blondes. So why are you talking to a blonde?

Like, your whole thing with Kenzie was that you don't like blondes.

Dad: I don't know that he said he doesn't like blondes. I thought he said that's not my normal type.

Isabella: Yeah. I guess I need to give him a little bit more grace, but it was kinda like, oh, he fancies the new Bombshell, but I thought that's not his type.

Dad: I think you just don't like Zach because he's not from The US. And you I don't get like the interlopers on The US. That's it.

Isabella: I guess I could I I should probably say it's it I don't love it when they bring UK people on US, just because I feel like it's not realistic. But I I don't like him for multiple reasons, and none of them I can actually spell out for you. But yeah, we'll see. Maybe I I like him and Kayda as a couple. They seem sweet together, but him alone, I'm not really a fan.

So should we talk about Sincere and Melanie and Sol? Oh, Sincere, I don't know what don't know what he thinks he's doing here. He is he scares me actually because he is saying the exact right things to both of these women. He's keeping Melanie happy while he's talking to her, and then he's telling Sol the exact things that every girl wants to hear. I mean, I wrote down one of the things he said.

He was telling Sol that he feels like this is love at first sight. And then he's going back to Melanie, telling Melanie, oh my gosh, no, I'm just exploring. Like, it's not a you're always my number one. You just told Sol that it felt like love at first sight. So which one is it sincere?

Like, which what what is the truth? You're not being sincere.

Dad: I I don't know that it gives a whole lot of thought to how he moves, as they say on the show. But he's saying what comes to mind in the moment and not really thinking through that he's not being consistent. I'm not sure how much he remembers what he says or the context. And I'm not trying to give him a pass

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: But he doesn't seem like he is as manipulative on purpose or Machiavellian as some people have been in prior seasons. So I'm I'm not I know it's not going to end well for for him or at least one of the the ladies. It is. My bet is currently that it's gonna be he's gonna go with Sol, or he should go with Sol, but he's going to probably stick with Melody.

Isabella: I actually think he is probably more suited for Sol. They seem to have a little bit more in common, so I don't know. We will see. I do feel bad for Sol. She got pied a whole bunch of times in the pie competition, which I don't think we we only saw her get pied twice.

I think it probably happened a lot more than that, and we just didn't see it. So I do think that that sucks. I don't I think she's feeling pretty left out, so I feel for her. I really did like when she kissed Gabriel and she immediately was like, I don't know, something about the pheromones, I did not like that at all.

Dad: She said she could taste pheromones, which I thought, I've not heard that before. Don't think

Isabella: But I loved that, though.

Dad: I don't think that's a boomer.

Isabella: That made me like her a little bit more.

Dad: I might have to look into that because who knows, people have bizarre things they can, you know, smell what they taste or taste colors. I I can't remember the name of that. Like synesthesia or something like that. Yeah. So maybe this is what some sort of variation on that.

She

Isabella: looks Even her like face though?

Dad: Yeah. She looks like she just drank spoiled milk.

Isabella: Killed me. That killed me. Because someone reacting like that, I don't we don't see that very often on this show. It was just kind of nice to see.

Dad: Well, especially because he thought he was a little he had this look on his face like, yeah.

Isabella: He thinks that every girl likes it.

Dad: Right. Right. Probably he's probably usually right.

Isabella: Yeah. He is a very good looking man. I will give that to Gabriel. He I think he's the best looking one on there right now. That's just my taste, of course.

So we saw that whole game go down, then there was voting for who the Bombshells should couple up with. Now this was supposed to air on Thursday, and the Love Island USA app crashed. So they had to move the re coupling back to Friday. I just wanna say

Dad: Wait. Before we go on, do you know why the app crashed? Is it because viewership is up beyond

Isabella: Yeah. Think it's

Dad: prior years or just some glitch?

Isabella: Just too many people.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Yeah. So I think it crashed due to volume of people wanting to vote. And I do just wanna say, this is not the first time they've done this. They've done it before where America votes for who the Bombshells are gonna couple up with. I will say that I think the way that they do that, it is worst case scenario for the Bombshells themselves.

Because one, they don't get to choose who they're with. Now granted, I will say this season I think it worked out how it should. The Bombshells did kind of end up with who they were talking to the most, but it makes it weird for the people that are uncoupled because of this, I guess. Like, they have to now wonder, like, did did America do this because they don't like me? Or I I just think it's such a weird way to go about it, and it it works.

Don't get me wrong. Like, we the last season especially, we had so much drama with putting new bombshell with Jeremiah, Huda's guy. So I I get what they're doing, but I do think that if I'm in there and I'm a bombshell and I hear that America's voting on who I couple up with, that's kind of worst case scenario for me.

Dad: Except you're guaranteed to stay on the show.

Isabella: Yeah. But usually if you're a bombshell, you're guaranteed to stay on the show for at least a week anyway. I mean, they usually just let you choose first.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: So I do think it worked out this time, but I would probably hate to hear that if I was on the show, to be honest. So then we did get the re coupling, and the matchings were Sincere and Sol. Melanie, of course, was not not cool with that. She's all up in her emotions. Then we have Kenzie and Caleb, which I think was pretty obvious.

The one that was not quite as obvious is Gabriel and Jen. I do think that Jen was talking to Gabriel the most on the show, so that's why it makes sense. But it it definitely was the most questionable one. So because of that, we have three singles now, Melanie, Bea, and Corbin, because Corbin was with Kenzie. Speaking of Corbin, I mean, Corbin, can I have a kiss?

Dad: He just I guess at least he asked.

Isabella: I at least he asked. I just it's so cringe. It's I mean, can I have a kiss? I That

Dad: was a pretty good impression.

Isabella: So all three of them were single. They decide to have Corbin choose between the two girls, and the girl who's not chosen is dumped. So dad, who was dumped?

Dad: Oh, I spaced out for a second.

Isabella: Come on.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So who was dumped? I don't know. Bea.

Dad: Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Beatriz.

Beatriz. Beatriz. Yeah. Which I saw someone was making fun of someone saying it the correct way, so I'll just stick with Bea. But, yes.

Bummed. I thought that much like my view of Ellie on UK, she seems like the one who would be the most fun to hang out with. And, as you shared with me, she had some really good one liners. And she I could see her coming back, but this might just be me wish having wishful thinking on her coming back for for Casa Amor.

Isabella: I think it's a lot of wishful thinking, these people wanting the islanders to to come back for Casa cAmor. It's only ever happened one time in UK and USA, and that was they brought back Molly for Zach Zachariah, I think. You wouldn't remember these names at Totally. This Yeah. But they've all I'm pretty sure they've only done it once before.

Dad: Did Tony not come back?

Isabella: Tony was always there.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Tony from UK last season. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, I think it sucks that Bea got dumped. I'm not sure who would've been the better option, to be honest.

I will say I've seen a lot of mixed feelings about her online, but I think that's mostly because she's maybe not as bubbly and, like, light. And she's she's just not, like, really a girly girl, which I love that about her. I think if she would've been around longer, she would've really become a major fan favorite. I think the only reason she had mixed feelings is because people saw her being blunt, kinda standing up, and getting Melanie checking Melanie that one time, which she did say walking out the village. Was like, You guys check each other.

I I like that from her. It would've been nice to see more of her, but someone's gotta go. So it is what it is. Anything else you want us to mention on Love Island? Either one, I think we've been on it for a while, so we should probably move on.

Dad: Let's move on.

Isabella: Okay. Let's go with Summer House. Let's talk Summer House. We have watched the part three, final part of the reunion.

Dad: Well, I guess

Isabella: Well, final part of the reunion.

Dad: True.

Isabella: We'd have been we have confirmation that there will be an extra episode. I guess probably going over what's happened since the reunion and kind of the end of the reunion, I felt like it was kind of Yeah. And it didn't really nothing was ever resolved, so I guess I understand what they're doing by adding another part. The only problem is that we see in the preview Amanda starting to, like, question things, and that's nice and all, except we know as we're watching part three of the reunion that West and Amanda are in Italy together. So whatever Amanda was reconsidering didn't really hit.

Like, she didn't follow through on it. She's still with him. So

Dad: Do you follow them on social media?

Isabella: I don't follow I think I used to follow Amanda and I unfollowed her because I'm team Sierra, of course. I don't think I've I don't I don't follow many reality TV people. I usually just kind of see what's being said about them.

Dad: I only ask because that came up in this episode, in the prior episode, where they were talking about how the two of them kept posting bread crumbing things on Instagram and TikTok about where they were, and I didn't know if, at that time, you were maybe following and seeing that live.

Isabella: At the time, I I don't think I really saw it live. Of course, when the official news came out and they released their statement, I think that's when a lot of people were kind of going back in and looking at what they had been posting over the last six months to a year or so. So that's kind of where all that bread crumbing stuff came from, because they were able to go back and see what was she saying at that time. Right. And it's all kind of sketchy.

Dad: I have three things I'll lead off with. Sorry to steal your thunder, but number one, you called it on at least West being on beta blockers or a beta blocker in the reunion. Now, only admitted to that. Who knows whether he's on a mix of something, and then notably Amanda kept quiet. So you called it in advance.

Kudos. The second one, when West said something along the lines of, I've been less than clear with a zillion women. Maybe not the best way to explain yourself. Maybe you just say, like, I'm sorry for having not been clear with.

Isabella: You. Comment on that too.

Dad: Right. Sorry. And then Andy, at the beginning of episode three, looking at the card saying, it's meaty. Those are the things that caught my attention.

Isabella: That's it. It's meaty. Yep. No, I remember that too. And and I he was like, this is it?

Like, this is for the end?

Dad: Right.

Isabella: I think I I did make a note on that comment by West of saying, he he's basically in this part three, he's basically admitting to being a bad guy. Like, he's not even disputing it anymore. Everything that is said, he's pretty much like, yep. Yeah. You're right.

So he's full on acknowledging that he's not a good person. And maybe he's just doing that to just kind of be agreeable or whatever, but

Dad: If he has a publicist or a PR person, they're not really helping him out.

Isabella: He needs to fire them. Yeah. They're doing a terrible job. There are so many things though that I just want to know, like, did he do that? And I could probably answer my own question.

The answer to that why is usually for publicity. Like, I had the question of, and they brought this up too at the reunion, of Sierra at one point posted a really good photo of herself, and West made a comment, like a pretty flirty comment on her photo. And Andy asked, like, so why did you do that if you were at the time kind of talking to Amanda? And he said, I don't know. And I'm thinking, I don't know why he would do that either.

But then I'm realizing, oh, you know what he's doing? The audience loves Sierra so much, and he wants to get back on Sierra's good side. And so he wants But he wants the audience to see that he's on her good side. He doesn't care to actually be on her good side. He wants the perception to be that he's on Sierra's good side.

Dad: Okay. This is out of the blue, but I know you're a huge sports fan. They always show that he is a sports writer or sports journalist or something like that. Have you ever looked at anything he's written? Does he still do it?

He

Isabella: works for Complex. I don't know if you know that.

Dad: Clue what that is.

Isabella: Okay. Well, it's it's like a media company that they cover I guess he's in the sports side of it. I haven't seen a ton of things that he's been in. I've seen like a Instagram video here and there of him interviewing people, but I don't think he's like I think he's more of like an influencer.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Like, I think that's really where he his

Dad: Or was.

Isabella: Or yeah. I guess, technically, he still probably is, but yeah. He does have his own podcast with some WNBA player. So he's in the sports world. I just wouldn't say he's like I guess he did used to play football.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't keep up with him enough to know for sure. I don't have a ton more to say about Summer House. It's just really what was throwing me was the complete lack of emotion from Amanda specifically.

I mean, West, I get a little bit, but Amanda, not even a single tear. I mean, Sierra finally did crack and started crying when she's talking about how close they were and how that that, like, they were best friends. And finally, Sierra, like, cracks a tear. Amanda, she's just like, yeah.

Dad: Well, it wasn't zero emotion on her part. She did show emotion when she started to get defensive and then turn things around instead of saying, I'm sorry, falling on her sword, pick your cliche or metaphor. She would inevitably turn it around and make it about herself, which reminds me about a cast member on Southern Hospitality when we come to it. And I thought, wow, you showed some emotion, but at the wrong time. So it it it, again, if she's getting coached by someone Right.

Absolutely. So if she's getting coached by someone, she should also look for a different coach because it it wouldn't be too hard to say. You just have to go in there and say you're sorry. Say you're sorry. No excuses.

Say you're sorry.

Isabella: I mean, she kind of was getting coached by West when he was like, you just need to be not so defensive. What did he even say? He was like

Dad: Am I talking enough? Am I talking too much?

Isabella: No. You're not actually, West.

Dad: You're not And talking then it I I just am being quiet because I think it might help you look better if if I don't say as much. Something along those lines where I think he was just trying to excuse not being in the mix.

Isabella: Yeah. They're just both losers. Honestly, the only redeeming quality of the part three to me was Lindsay Hubbard. She started to get sick of it towards the end. I I forget what West was even talking about, but she blurts out, lie.

Just like, she was like, I can't take it anymore, Andy. Like, It's all lies. I can't do it anymore. And then when they're finally deciding to wrap up, Lindsay comes back with her wine glass and sits down and says, Andy, I feel like we haven't really resolved anything today. Like, feel like we're kind of in the same place we started at.

And Andy's like, okay, well, should we start over?

Dad: I noticed the wine glass, it might have been water. I don't know. It was clear. I was I thought, this is unusual that someone's drinking before the end.

Isabella: I think if anyone can do it, Lindsay can. Sure. But, yeah.

Dad: The only thing else I have to say for that is I'm looking forward to next week, whatever they're gonna call the post reunion. But it might just be because it's good marketing and editing on the previews.

Isabella: Yeah. I do have I'm excited for it too. I have a bad feeling that it's gonna be kind of one of those that we've kind of already seen the best parts in the preview. But but I'm looking forward to it. We'll see if we get any more information.

I mean, even Wes just sitting down with Kyle and being like, I think I've loved her for a long time. Like, that was weird to hear.

Dad: I think this might have been a Watch What Happens Live with Jessie and I can't remember the woman's name, who used to be on The Bachelor. But and she was The Bachelorette. Anyway, Andy made an announcement of how they solved the surreptitious recording, the audio that was leaked. And I can't remember the name of the actress who

Isabella: Jennifer Lawrence.

Dad: Okay. Yeah. So her I don't know if it was her specifically as much as maybe her online fans may I don't know if she has some sort of thing, like podcast or something, but he said that her sleuths solved it. Have you seen anything since then that gives more detail?

Isabella: The only thing I've seen is that apparently Jennifer Lawrence has some burner accounts online. Like, I guess she has this TikTok account that's not under her name at all, and apparently it's been discovered. I haven't looked deeper into that, like I don't know what the account even is, but I have read that her burner account was discovered. So I'm not sure if maybe that has anything to do with this, but she is very online. I know that about Jennifer Lawrence.

Dad: No. I just am curious as to what about the audio someone, regardless of whether they're famous or not, how they figured out who it was. Maybe I don't know. It's maybe a little bit too technical.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't think we're gonna know that. We're not gonna figure that out.

Dad: We'll move on.

Isabella: Well, think we can move to In the City, because that's kind of the same people. I do wanna Amanda moving out, it is pretty crazy that they just haven't decided to get a divorce at this point in the show. Obviously we know now they're getting divorced, but she's moving out and she's signing a year long lease, and they are still just trying to work it out. That to me, you're not trying to work it out if you're moving away and it's not month to like, you're moving to a new apartment.

Dad: Yeah. I find myself not caring at all about the storyline because we already know how it ends.

Isabella: Yeah. I just

Dad: It's more annoying in that, yeah, sure, I can see what she's doing and decide, oh, she's even shiftier than I thought. But on the other hand, we've seen the end of the movie. And Mhmm. Plus, they've lived in New York a long time. I you have to know that it's probably not easy to find any apartment, one.

Two, a fully furnished one that goes month to month. I think that's a hotel. Yeah. Or if you're going to find one, it's gonna be a year lease. And so I don't know if it's just them not thinking things through or she's just telegraphing what she really wanted to do and trying to spin it differently.

She wanted to get a divorce. She wanted to separate. She wanted to have her time away. I don't know. But it's it's not top of mind.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't have much else to say about In the City, but I do wanna mention that scene where Kyle and Amanda go to dinner or something together, and they're kind of asking each other if they're still in love with one another.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: That scene was so uncomfortable because first off, Amanda says yes, and I believe her. I do. And then she asks the same question to Kyle, and he just starts, like he just, like, busts out laughing. I thought that was so bizarre.

Dad: I think he laughed after she called him liar face. Right? She said, You were such a bad liar. Yeah. But he must have he had a look on his face where she probably knew that It

Isabella: was very he didn't much have an an uncomfortable laugh, though. He's all mad at all of his friends for getting him into this position about the whole no sparks thing. Dude, you did it to yourself. Like, he's mad at all his friends for spreading it around and telling his girlfriend, if you wouldn't have said that, then it wouldn't have come back to you. This

Dad: this is a great example of when I'm watching through the season, certain things come up and I think to myself, oh, I can't wait for the reunion. Right? This if I spend too much time thinking about it, I'll just get irritated. Yes. What's the guy's name?

The Italian guy?

Isabella: Andrea.

Dad: Yeah. That predates my time for Summer House. But Andrea says murky, and he later admits that that was his interpretation. Okay. Okay.

That's not that big of a deal, but that guy focused on it. And then but you're right. The spark thing was him.

Isabella: Mhmm. And they would have never gotten to the murky if he never said the spark thing.

Dad: Right. Right. And he has to know he's on television. Like, it's going to be known. It's not a secret.

But this is his first time

Isabella: It is on his first season. I know a lot of them, even though for people like us, it's hard to believe, a lot of them do say, like, you just kind of forget the cameras are there. And it is I'm like, how do you forget that, that there's a camera in your face? But so many of them have said that before, that there's gotta be some truth to that. I don't know.

But regardless, it was so stupid.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Okay. Should we do you have anything else to say about Summer House in the City or No. Okay. Let's move on to I have a few things to say about Southern Hospitality.

Dad: Ditto.

Isabella: I'm sure it's gonna be about our girl Emmy.

Dad: A 100%.

Isabella: I just I need to point out something that she said that just made me laugh out loud when I heard it. When she was giving her apology to Brad, which, by the way, I think it was a decent apology.

Dad: Better

Isabella: than Better, for sure. I still don't know if she means it, but any whatever. When she said she said, I will never know what it feels like to be a black African American male in America. I don't know why that just made me laugh so much. Like, you could have just said black in America, girl.

Dad: I think that she was coached, but she probably just fumbled.

Isabella: She definitely no. She definitely fumbled on that because it was we know what you mean.

Dad: Yes. Yes. She's trying to say all of the right terms without any of the wrong ones, but then added some extra and became redundant and it ended up sounding awkward.

Isabella: Yeah. But, yeah, that just made me laugh out loud. The other thing about Emmy that I wanna say is, I think it's really funny that she keeps saying, like, I don't wanna I don't wanna talk about my fiance. He's not here. He's not part of this.

And then Andy just continues to talk about him and ask questions about him. He's like, okay. I don't care.

Dad: And some of his facial expressions when she was talking.

Isabella: I don't have a ton more to say about Southern Hospitality besides just the Emmy of it all. But something that weirded me out was Justin is talking about his new relationship with Charlie, which I do wanna give just a little bit of context that I kind of personally know Charlie. We were in the same Rush group. We both went to Clemson together. So Charlie, if you're listening, hey girl.

Anyways, Justin's talking about his new relationship with Charlie, and the camera pans over to Maddie, and she's rolling her eyes. And we never got usually Andy will be like, Maddie, what what do you have something to say? And that never happened. So what what is her problem? Like, do we know?

Dad: No idea.

Isabella: Okay. Well, clearly Maddie has an issue with Justin, and I think maybe it comes back around to that other girl that Justin was seeing, and maybe Maddie has issues with that. I don't know. But I thought that was weird. Something not important, but just made me think of this.

Maddie freezing her eggs at 28 years old.

Dad: Seems a little early.

Isabella: It does, but I'm kind of thinking, oh my god, I'm 28 years old. Do I need to freeze my eggs right now?

Dad: Let's not have your major life decisions be so influenced by reality television.

Isabella: Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. And then Mia. Mia acknowledging that she slept with West and was telling Sally to get in on it.

Like, how bizarre. And then I do kind of have a feeling that Mia maybe cheated on her boyfriend. We don't have that confirmation, but I could see it.

Dad: Well, she did admit to sleeping with the guy in question. It was someone different than West. But she said no, it was after we broke up. And she was very quick to say, I'm not denying it. Slept with the guy.

It's just you've got your timing wrong. Yeah. And then that back and forth between the left side of the set and the right side of the set, I was definitely on Molly and Mia's side. I thought that the others were just acting and it might be an age thing because there's a dramatic age difference with some of the ones over on the right, Lake and Michols especially. I also love how Michols used gaslighting twice, and Andy called him out and said, that's not gaslighting.

And then someone else, Molly, said, it's not gaslighting if you call someone out for being wrong. And then the other one the note I had was Emmy saying, wasn't concerned about my personal safety. It was my emotional safety. And I wrote down that's some bullshit. That is a classic trying to recover the terms like, oh, oh, yeah.

That's what I really meant.

Isabella: See, this is funny, and this is probably gonna be our kind of a little bit of a generational difference. That was actually the first thing she said that made sense to me.

Dad: Right. But it makes sense because she's backfilling. That that's not what she meant at the time.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I don't know why I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. I think she's wrong.

She is the one that's wrong in the situation.

Dad: I hope she doesn't leave because I I Oh, We need her on the show. Yeah. Fascinated with her eyes, and the she she could tone down the crying because it's a weapon and or a defense mechanism to deflect, but not really, I think, genuine. And again, who I have no idea. I'm speculating about all this.

But do not want her to leave the show.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. So good season of that. Yeah. That's the end of, I guess, season three of Southern Hospitality.

I'm assuming it's gonna get renewed again. It better be.

Dad: I would think so because they had a real reunion this time, so that's usually a positive sign.

Isabella: Yeah. I do think yeah. That's a good sign. Go

Dad: on. I know that Southern Charm is recorded because when I was there and ran into a few of the cast members, they introduced another woman who had darker hair, and I can't remember her name, but she's like, I'm the new one.

Isabella: Okay.

Dad: And then when we took pictures, she was very particular she was not in any of the pictures that were taken. So

Isabella: she Okay. So she's like trying to be secret.

Dad: Yes. And I think I've I I don't think. I've read since then that there are rumors of a new cast member on the show showing up in town and being recorded.

Isabella: Okay. Well, you'll have to tell us more about that when Southern Charm comes back around. Yeah. Because for context, you do hang out in Charleston a lot. You have some family and friends there.

So he has run into a few of the Southern Charmers before. Yes. And he he can

Dad: For another day.

Isabella: Yeah. That's a that's a story for another pod. I think we have a couple more things to cover. We have Rhode Island and Atlanta, and I don't have much on either of them. Really, just a couple quick notes about Rhode Island.

Think I did think that Liz had a good apology to Alicia. Like, it seemed genuine. They've clearly been friends for so long, so they seem to be good.

Dad: Quite the recovery. Because I think when we spoke about this last week, we're both not really fans of hers, and I thought it was gonna be hard for her if she continued to have the same Mhmm. Response. But unlike some of the other people we've just been talking about, she might have better people coaching her like, hey. Yeah.

If you want this to continue, you might need to suck it up and say you're sorry, mean it.

Isabella: Yeah. I also just have to give credit when it's due. If you're gonna give a good apology, then I'm gonna give you credit for it. The only other thing is Rulla, she just does not care that her husband is cheating on her. She knows he is, and she does not care.

That's what I've I've just come to that conclusion.

Dad: That's certainly how it appears. I think that there's more going on. I mentioned in the last podcast the Bravo Docket, and they went through some of this. There's there are things going on behind the scenes that I think might have prevented either of them from saying things. At least, I haven't looked into the pleadings myself, but it's there may be more to it.

I don't know that she doesn't care because that may come out in next week's episode.

Isabella: Mhmm. Yeah. Well, that's coming to a close too. The reunion, I'm not sure when the reunion for sure is, but I know that they've filmed it. So it's coming.

Now, Atlanta. I thought the this episode was okay. There were just a few things that I thought was funny. Thought Cynthia Bailey was really being funny. She what was she saying?

One of the girls was throwing some shade at Angela and calling her, like, Bigfoot. I forget who it was. It might have been Kelly. And Cynthia came back at that and said, hey, be nice to the Bigfoot community. Like, I am in the Bigfoot community.

I don't know. That made me laugh. She threw some shade at Peter Thomas. Do you remember who Peter Thomas is?

Dad: One of her husbands.

Isabella: Her yeah. Her her first husband from the show.

Dad: Yes. The guy with the silver Yes. Beard from the island.

Isabella: She threw some shade at him because she was introducing her new boyfriend, and he she was like, you know, unlike other people, he doesn't like to get all up in women's business. And that is a very clear Peter Thomas shade. You know Peter Thomas is in prison right now.

Dad: No. I didn't know that.

Isabella: I think he gets out soon.

Dad: Okay. I think you're grasping at straws. The show is so bad.

Isabella: Oh, come

Dad: on. So bad.

Isabella: Like It's more it's more nostalgic for me. Right. It it is.

Dad: But it's you love the thought of it, and the actual execution this season is horrible. I said last week it was like homework, this one it was like a test.

Isabella: They just haven't figured out the right cast. They've got the pieces. They just haven't figured it out. I thought Kelly giving her little drunk speech at what's his name Shamea's husband's surprise party when Kelly was just wasted and gets up on the table and gives him a speech. Thought that was funny.

You're just he's given me a face of, like, I am just not interested interested whatsoever. Whatsoever.

Dad: I remember that. I think I might have been reading at that time.

Isabella: Probably. Porshma and Giselle Bryant, we saw we had a Giselle siding. They're wearing Clemson colors. I just had to shout that out. Big Clemson fans over here.

We both went there. And then the last thing that I wanna mention with Atlanta. They kept bringing up, oh, Shamea is sleeping with Hawks and Falcons players. And anybody that knows me knows that I am along with reality TV, I'm a massive sports fan, especially when it comes to Atlanta sports like the Hawks and the Falcons. So I am immediately thinking, okay, I don't there's this probably isn't true, but if it were true, which players would it be?

So that was just kinda fun for me to think about. I would have that conversation with you, but I don't think you're very well versed in the current Hawks players and the current Falcons players.

Dad: As bad as I am with the names of people on reality TV, I'm even worse with sports figures.

Isabella: Yeah. He's not he's not as big of a sports guy as you might think that he would be

Dad: as Not like I used to.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: He's just kinda old.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, that I thought was interesting. Just a little bit of worlds colliding. So but think we have a new season of Below Deck Med. I think we can get into that a little bit more next week.

But

Dad: Yes. Really quickly, bringing back Joe Bradley is a little bit insane, but probably more of a producer choice than

Isabella: For Captain For sure. I also Nathan definitely had a hair transplant. Like, 100% he had a hair transplant.

Dad: Oh, okay.

Isabella: But we can we can do we can talk about that more next time. I think we're running out of time.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: But thank you for tuning in again. Share with your friends, and feel free to reach out to us if you have any questions, concerns, you have any ideas for us. But thank you for listening, and we'll see you next Monday.

Dad: Yep. We really appreciate it, especially if you have any ideas for ongoing topics or games or otherwise. Mhmm. Love to hear from you.

Isabella: That's our episode. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Dad: Thanks for listening.

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