Love Island USA Reunion, Teenage Wasteland Doc, and RHUGT in Atlanta

NeNe Leakes makes a surprise Bravo return after years away.

Plus: Next Gen NYC's love triangle, a Below Deck Med exit, Phaedra Parks and CT Tamburello's new romance, and the 9/11 Reunited doc.

Dad and Isabella recap the Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip stop in Atlanta, from Porsha Williams' drag brunch to the Alter Ego costume party, where Kyle Richards confronts Ashley Darby over Mauricio Umansky. Also in the mix: Vicki Gunvalson, Luann de Lesseps, Gizelle Bryant, Stacey Rusch, Candiace Dillard-Bassett, Angie Katsanevas, Mary Cosby, and Drew Sidora.

They dig into the Love Island USA Season 8 reunion with hosts Ariana Madix and Andy Cohen, covering where Melanie and Sincere, Bryce and Trinity, Kayda and Zach, and KC and Titi stand now, plus the Jaiden and Caleb hookup timeline and the fallout from a divisive comment. Sol, Corbin, Parmida, Kenzie, and Dylan round out the panel.

Next Gen NYC heats up as Ariana Biermann juggles Liam Obergfoll, Charlie Zakkour, and Hudson McLeroy, Georgia McCann gets branding advice from Seth Marks, and Gia Giudice has a viral jester moment. Over on Below Deck Mediterranean, deckhand Max Salvador exits to help his father while Captain Sandy manages a Nathan Gallagher and Joe Bradley feud.

In reality news, Phaedra Parks and CT Tamburello go public after meeting on The Traitors, then the two of them play a round of guess-the-Bravolebrity with Fraser Olender, Erin Lichy, and Emmy Sharrett. On the documentary side: Netflix's Teenage Wasteland and 9/11 Reunited on Hulu and Disney+.

Dad: Good morning, Isabella.

Isabella: Good morning, dad.

Dad: Welcome to episode 14 of the podcast.

Isabella: Welcome back. It's been a little bit of a slower start to the day for us, for me especially, and a little bit of mourning for our Clemson Tigers, but we're excited to get that off the mind and talk some TV.

Dad: Yes. This is a good diversion from the bummer of last evening losing by a boatload to

Isabella: If you know, you less

Dad: you. Yeah.

Isabella: If you know, you know.

Dad: Okay. What are we gonna cover today?

Isabella: I have a couple documentaries, one that we just watched together called Teenage Wasteland, Yes. I

Dad: On Netflix.

Isabella: Yes. There was another documentary I watched on, gosh, I think it was Hulu. I'll have to double check that. We'll have it in the description. It was called 9/11 Reunited.

Lots of 9/11 documentaries coming out. Of course, we're hitting the twenty fifth anniversary, so very solemn and sad, but pretty good as well. I thought, Well, do you want to just Let me just talk about it real quick. I don't have much to say. Then we'll go into our Bravo stuff, of course.

Dad: Great.

Isabella: So the name of the documentary was 9/11 Reunited. I think a lot of these 9/11 documentaries tend to be very, very similar in just kind of recounting the events and talking Of course, most of them do talk about the victims, but this one was very focused on the victims, of course, and specifically the people who rescued them. So point of the documentary was to bring people together that have not seen each other since that day.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: There were multiple stories of, people telling their own stories and kind of how they got out of there and who helped them. There was one that I will specifically talk about. There were multiple that were on there, but the one that really stuck with me was there was a woman who was running out of the World Trade Center after the first plane hit. And she was running next to a man, and a blade from, I guess, the airplane engine fell down and hit her. And trigger warning maybe, but sliced her back completely open.

This man who was running next to her stopped, and he kind of wrapped her in a piece of fabric to kind of, his words, keep her organs in place. He stayed with her, like, right outside the World Trade Center. He stayed with her until she got into an ambulance, risked his life. She was in the hospital for eighteen months, and she obviously survived and made it out. She's in a wheelchair.

She doesn't have the greatest ability to walk, but when those two met up for the first time, I could not stop crying. It was super emotional. It was kind of I mean, I know this is a very, very tragic event, obviously, but kind it of a nice way to show it. And he's talking about how he's so proud of her. She's telling him that he's an inspiration, and she thinks about him every day.

At any time she's down, She remembers him and how he saved her life. Right. Yeah. It was it was really good.

Dad: So it was worth the time overall?

Isabella: I think so. Yeah. I know a lot of people maybe like, know you said you don't really prefer to watch a 9/11 documentary unless there's gonna be something new. There wasn't anything new per se, but it was just a nice way of doing it.

Dad: Well, wasn't new, but new to me, so I will watch it. That sounds good. And a different take is what I'm looking for.

Isabella: Yeah. It was very emotional. So just so you know, it was very emotional, but not in a terrible way. Like, it was kind of not like there was a group of three guys that they busted out of the World Trade Center together, and they kind of all met up for beers, and they're laughing. It was good.

Yeah. I definitely recommend it.

Dad: Okay. I'll add it to my list.

Isabella: Yeah. So.

Dad: Do you want to cover Teenage Wasteland while we're on the documentaries?

Isabella: Sure. Yeah. We started this last night during the weather delay of our football game, and we just finished it just before recording. So I got a little emotional at the end of that.

Dad: Yes. You wanna set the stage for what it's about? Yes. It's about a high school in the early to mid-90s in Middletown, New York, which is Upstate New York, about 60 miles north of New York City, and specifically an elective class taught by a former English teacher called Electronic Media, and it was

Isabella: Electronic English.

Dad: That's right. Right. Sorry. But it was based on using camera equipment, video equipment to tell stories, and they used it for a variety of things. They filmed hip hop videos or their own little stories, and then eventually he got to the point he said, Hey, there's a story outside of school that might be important if anyone's interested, and it was regarding a local landfill that had been there for many years and the environmental damage it was causing.

Then the students got very involved, and I don't want to give away too much, but it became a much bigger story than anyone could have imagined.

Isabella: Yeah. Toxic waste is So the they pretty much were I don't think this is giving too much away either. They were pretty much able to figure out that there was toxic waste being dumped in these landfills, And the problem is that the landfill sits on top of an aquifer Yes. Which is a water source that leads into their drinking water. So it was it was dark, but it was also impressive of these students.

I was very impressed by the questions that these students asked, both in their film and in city board meetings and town halls.

Dad: They

Isabella: would have they had this one reporter come in, the guy that, I guess, is in charge of the local newspaper.

Dad: Yes. He was the editor at the time of the newspaper called The Record.

Isabella: Yeah. They were asking him tough questions.

Dad: Oh, they were skewering him.

Isabella: Yeah. And he was getting pissed. Like, you could see it. And I'm thinking, I don't think I could have ever asked something like that in high school. I mean, in high school, you're still kind of of the age of all adults are authority figures, and they're right.

They know more than I do. Of course, as you grow up, that changes, but

Dad: But I think that's part of the point of the documentary is that this class, along with about the world, including adults are no less infallible than they are, if not more so.

Isabella: Yeah. I feel a little bit bad because I'm sure it really opened these teenagers up to seeing how the real world is, and that it's not all rainbows and flowers. It's

Dad: Right, but it's a good life lesson today.

Isabella: For sure.

Dad: Notwithstanding that it was a little bit dark, and I mean dark in that it's laying bare how the world works.

Isabella: And also how real people are being affected by this toxic waste.

Dad: Right. But I still was inspired by it, and you know this, that if I could wave a magic wand and not have to work for pay and retirement, I would be an investigative journalist, I think. I would just love to make things transparent, catch people in hypocrisy, lying, stealing, and try to get people to realize that there are things going on that matter, and that is the challenge. They face that challenge, so I was inspired by seeing what they did back then, but the fact that this documentary was made and is being pushed on Netflix as one of the things, at least in my and your algorithms, to watch. Hopefully others will see it and take something from it, because nothing happens if no one does anything.

Isabella: Yeah. The toughest part of it was me for me was seeing them kind of get ignored for a lot of it. Of course, by the end, you kind of see that the officials are acknowledging issue, but it really bothered me how much these students, and not even just the students, the other people that came in and were kind of whistle blowers, they were just kind of ignored by the higher ups. It it bothered me. But I guess, like you said, that's just kind of how the world works a lot of the time.

So bummer, but, yeah, also inspirational because of what these kids were able to uncover and do.

Dad: Right. Right. Okay. Maybe move on to the lighter stuff.

Isabella: Yeah. Let's get into the Bravo stuff. We have Ultimate Girls Trip and Below Deck and Next Gen NYC, and we also have the Love Island reunion.

Dad: That's what I have on my list. Okay. Okay. You want to start with Ultimate Girls Trip? Sure.

Okay. I will start by saying we did not watch this together, but as a fan of Atlanta, I knew that you were feverishly taking notes because the flashbacks for the Atlanta franchise were on fire. I mean, it was just over the top.

Isabella: It made It's just one after another after another.

Dad: It made the other flashbacks for Beverly Hills. Again, I didn't watch that when it was going on, and I've only seen the last couple of seasons, but it made those flashbacks look lame. Was so And then the other couple things I had on my notes, the Teresa isms that they were showing were

Isabella: Fresh just of breath air. I mean, she said that before, and she still doesn't know She's the

Dad: completely oblivious to it, which is part of what makes it so great. It's not like she gets corrected and then realizes her mistake. They're gently trying to point out, Hey, that's not it. She's just

Isabella: I don't think she's getting it. What I also laughed at is when she they're in Buckhead, which is a what do you it's a part of Atlanta. She called it are we Buckingham? Yes. No, Buckhead.

I don't know how funny that is to other people, but I thought I got a kick out of that because we know Buckhead, of course. I might start calling him I might start calling it Buckingham. We'll see.

Dad: Okay. We'll do that.

Isabella: Yeah. So, as you mentioned, all the ladies are in Atlanta. They start with this drag brunch that Porsha planned, and then after that, they're gonna do an alter ego party, which I'll explain the background on that a little bit more after the drag brunch. Vicki is so lame. She's already dogging on the drag brunch.

She's like, If you've been to one, you've been to them all. Girl, lighten up a little bit. My God. But she did later, which we'll get to.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So I thought it was funny. They had all these drag queens coming out imitating each of the wives that were there. That was funny. Phaedra's was funny. They were all kind of like, that's supposed to be Phaedra?

Geez. Well, had

Dad: to figure that how many drag queens did to they choose from to try to look like them.

Isabella: Exactly. Not everyone's gonna be super accurate, but it's fine. So, and then they revealed NeNe Leakes. NeNe came out kind of after all these drag queens, and I think the ladies kind of had an inkling that that was gonna happen. I know Porsha said it was a surprise, but even Kyle was like, kind of heard rumors that NeNe's gonna be here.

But when she popped out, it was a big thing. Kyle ran up on the stage and hugged her. I think Luann did the same. We found out that Kyle and NeNe have been really good friends over the years. They used to go on double dates with NeNe and Gregg, Kyle and Mauricio.

Kyle was very emotional that NeNe was there. She's like, I missed you. We need you back. I think all the ladies kind of agreed. Vicki, too.

Vicki was like, NeNe and I have been good friends over the years.

Dad: Right. But she also admitted she's never watched Real

Isabella: Housewives Which, of of course. Like, why would you maybe that's something you shouldn't admit.

Dad: Quite a few of the other housewives pay tribute to Atlanta as being very important in the Real Housewives pantheon of franchises.

Isabella: Yeah. And NeNe Leakes, especially. Especially.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: NeNe comes in, they all sit down, and they're ki ki ing, I guess. And Gizelle, of course, has to make some drama. So Gizelle is saying that NeNe told Karen to beat Gizelle up. NeNe's response to that was she pretty much just owned it. She was like, I did say that.

I didn't mean it like that, though.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: It was kind of a joke, but I'm sorry.

Dad: It was very unusual for reality TV to both admit it and then say sorry without any but following it?

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. We haven't seen NeNe in drama in a bit, but the last time we did, she shut her it was the reunion during COVID where she shut her computer screen, and we never saw her again until now. So maybe NeNe's grown a little bit in how she handles drama. We'll see.

Well, I don't know how much we will see, because I think she's only in Atlanta, but hopefully we see a little bit more next episode. And then, starts talking about her boyfriend. She said, Oh, he's here. Do you want me to bring him out? And she comes out, and Vicki is obsessed with this.

She's like, Oh, my gosh, NeNe, where have you been hiding this handsome man? He's so dapper, and he's just so handsome, and he smells so good. Bring him back over here. Don't let him leave. We keep him out.

It was kind of a little creepy Yeah. At a But, certain hey, if that's what's gonna perk Vicki up, great. We need something to bring anything out of Vicki at this point. But that was all for the drag brunch, think, unless you had anything

Dad: else Yeah, so in move on to the alter ego, I'd say.

Isabella: Yeah, so the alter ego party, this is based on a photoshoot that The Real Housewives of Atlanta did in a very early I think it might have been season two, where they had a famous Atlanta photographer, I can't remember his name. Maybe Derek something? I might be wrong. I'm going to butcher that anyway. But taking This photographer took photos of each of the women in their alter egos.

So for example, NeNe used to be a stripper, so that was her alter ego. I don't remember what they all were, but that was the main one. So they were doing this party and telling everybody that came to dress up as whatever you see your alter ego as. There were some dumb

Dad: But most of them chose famous people as their alter ego.

Isabella: Yeah. Like I know Heather Heather Gay there were a bunch of people there. Ashley, Darby, Robyn Dixon, Stacey from Potomac, Candiace from Potomac, Angie K. and Mary Cosby were all there. Heather was dressed up as Britney Spears.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Like that was her alter I just I like the idea of the theme, but they kind of all showed up just looking like they were told a completely different theme. Like, just didn't There was no unity there

Dad: But in this

Isabella: whatever. It's creative, I guess. Kyle approached Ashley about what she said about Mauricio, because we remember the Potomac women met up with Mauricio in Aspen on their season. And Ashley said a comment that Kyle didn't like. She said, Enough time has passed They about made up quickly.

It wasn't a thing. They made it a thing in the preview for the episode, but as soon as Kyle said something, Ashley was like, I really didn't mean it like that. I'm sorry it came off that way, and I would never do anything with him.

Dad: So

Isabella: that ended up being fine. Oh, didn't mention Drew was there too, Drew Sidora.

Dad: Who cares?

Isabella: But Drew was there too. Kandi is interesting though, because Kandi got I don't think she got fired, but

Dad: she They said she got fired. At least some of the other housewives said she got fired.

Isabella: Right. Gizelle's Gizelle is saying shady comment was, I haven't seen Kandi since she got fired.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: I we don't know for sure what happened, but Kandi also it seems like a good time for her to step away anyway. She was pregnant, I believe. So I don't know if that's accurate, but Gizelle and Kandi hate each other. Hate each other. So I don't know if we're gonna have a confrontation there.

I kinda hope we do.

Dad: Does it continue in Atlanta this next episode

Isabella: or think we the have to finish up this don't think we're gonna have much left.

Dad: But it did seem like that party ended or the episode ended in the middle of the party, so I could see some continuing on, then they wake up and fly wherever they're.

Isabella: Yeah. Mean, I'm not even sure we've seen Nene Leakes show up to the party. You're right.

Dad: Point,

Isabella: no. So there's still some stuff left for there. Oh, back to Ashley. I thought it was interesting that Ashley completely threw Stacey under the bus regarding Mauricio. She said that she'd never go for Mauricio, which I think I mentioned, but she There was a clip that was shown of a flashback to that of Stacey kind of being the one to urge things on.

Right. But, yeah, Ashley just really threw her under the bus. And Stacey is at this party. Yes. So maybe it'll be discussed again.

Who knows? We'll see. We got Gizelle and Porsha in the Salt Lake City drama. And Gizelle, I thought it was funny. She called it She said she was being Diane Sawyer.

Like, she had to play Diane Sawyer with Angie and Heather. Porsha has now said that she thinks that Lisa is misunderstood. So it seems like Porsha's taking a little bit more of a side. Previously, was very good friends with Whitney and Heather, but she seems to have now jumped to Lisa's side.

Dad: Not seem. She said, That's my girl.

Isabella: Seems is not correct. She's definitely on Lisa's side.

Dad: But there are previews of the next episode, and it makes it looks look like something else is gonna happen with Lisa that might I don't know if it'll change Porsha's mind, but it seems like it's gonna be drama consistent with prior episodes or seasons of Salt Lake City.

Isabella: Yeah. Well, the way the episode ended was showing Heather going up to Lisa, and it was interesting because they didn't have a camera on them. They kind of had camera in the background, and I guess the editing team was kind of pointing out where Heather and Lisa were talking. But even one of them said, like, There's not a camera here. Like, let's just talk.

And I think the conversation came off bad for Heather

Dad: in She my went at her.

Isabella: Yeah. And I'm not saying that there's not something there that maybe Lisa deserved to become at for, if that's terrible grammar, but you know what I'm But, trying to yeah, not a good look for Heather. Again

Dad: It could also be selective editing. We might get more of it in this next episode.

Isabella: And we know RHOSLC is starting soon, so we're we're gonna get more there too, of course.

Dad: Ten days. Not that I'm counting.

Isabella: You've got a countdown going, Yeah. This is your favorite one.

Dad: By far. So It's up there with Mormon wives, whatever

Isabella: it's called. You love the Salt Lake City ones, which Mormon wives I think comes out Mormon wives Secret Lives of Mormon wives is September 10. So that is Thursday. This Thursday. Looking forward to that.

That's gonna be crazy.

Dad: Same.

Isabella: That is all I had for Ultimate Girls Trip, though.

Dad: Okay. Do you wanna move on to the Love Island USA reunion?

Isabella: Sure. I had quite a few notes on this.

Dad: I have very few notes.

Isabella: I thought so.

Dad: You know what my first one's gonna The format, I hate it. I hate the live or not live audience, but having an audience compared to normal reunions where it's just a soundstage and Andy. And this, it just reminded me of Love Island UK and the cheesiness of how they do all their extra shows and the reunions, just grated on me. Yeah. And I maybe it makes sense because there's so many people that they have to show and there's only so much space.

I don't know why they chose this. They could have worked around that in another fashion. And it was at one point, they were pointing out people who were there for the reunion, and there were people that looked like they were sitting behind a bush or something. Yeah. I was like, what's going on?

Isabella: Can't Yeah. The setup of where they were all seated was bizarre.

Dad: Why can't you just move chairs in front of that hedge row and let them sit there? But there were good questions by both Ariana and it is Ariana, right? Yeah. Andy. Andy.

But those were the main I just had high level points. I'm sure you've got much more detail.

Isabella: I've got a little bit more detail. Okay. Yeah. I'll get into it for sure. But to your point about the live audience, I thought that was an interesting choice.

I didn't necessarily dislike it because by the time we really were getting into it, I kind of forgot they were there.

Dad: I

Isabella: thought maybe they would jump in and like boo sincere or something, but we didn't really get that. They must have told the audience, Okay, you cheer when we tell you to cheer.

Dad: When we hold the sign up.

Isabella: Yeah. When we hold the sign up, and that's it. You gotta be quiet otherwise, which at that point, what's the point? So Why are they we saw footage of all of the finalists getting their phones back, which I'm glad, because that was something we saw in Aftersun , and I kind of wanted to see that for the finalists. We saw Melanie's sister being like, why are you still with Sincere?

Like getting mad at her again. She was like, I have to make my own decisions. So that was okay. Melanie and Sincere are still together, but they're so weird about how they speak about it. They're just like, Oh, we're just seeing how it goes.

She clearly still doesn't trust him. That was clear. She said he's building it.

Dad: Well, she has to have less trust now that she's been able to see the season.

Isabella: Yeah. I don't know if there was much else that wasn't shown to her at movie night. There was definitely the one comment about him saying, I forgot what she like. But other than that, I kind of feel like she got the main gist for movie night. Brittany, Bryce and Trinity going strong.

They said that there has not been one night where they have not been together. They've slept in the same bed every single night since the show ended.

Dad: Wow. Who moved, or did they both move someplace else?

Isabella: I don't think they've Trinity is from Virginia Beach, I believe, somewhere So in I don't think she's officially moved. I think she's just been staying with Bryce for a while. Bryce? Bryce is from LA.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: And that's where they've been.

Dad: That makes sense.

Isabella: He has this big tour now. I mean, he's a DJ. He's got sold out shows. Trinity is

Dad: Has he always been a DJ or just a

Isabella: He has always been a DJ. Yes. This is I mean, we talk about the DJs all the time. They're all, like It's never surprising. But he seems to be a legitimate DJ.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: It seems like I've seen a lot of his clips. He seems to know what he's doing. Not that I know what all that takes, but he seems like he's doing a little bit more than just putting on a playlist, you know?

Dad: Is he on par with Meredith Marks as far as the

Isabella: Probably better. I I think Meredith Marks is probably one that's pretending to press buttons.

Dad: How about Kyle? Can he be Kyle?

Isabella: Kyle might be in between, I would say. But Kyle's on a big tour too. I'm not a good person to ask. This is just I'm going by vibes.

Dad: Do they ever have DJ competitions, kind of like rap, where they go against each other?

Isabella: DJ battles. I haven't heard of that, but

Dad: Good idea.

Isabella: I think that would be weird because unless you have unless you're maybe forced to stay on a certain beats per minute

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Maybe it'd be interesting then. But I feel like it would be so choppy. I don't know. Okay. At the time of the reunion, they asked Zeta and Cack.

It was Kayda and Zach. At this point, they were still not boyfriend girlfriend. They were just exclusive. They said they've only spent a week together since the show ended because he had to go back to The UK, I guess, and she went home to New Hampshire. Since airing, though, they have confirmed that they are now boyfriend and girlfriend.

And I believe they're living together now with Charlie, who is Zach's brother from last season.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: I don't know if that's gonna be a long term thing or they're still figuring it out, but I've seen videos of them all in a house. I think they live together now. Oh, they brought they asked Che a question. Che from Casa Amor, who I think everybody probably forgot about. He was liking shady comments about Kayda, and he's using the excuse of like, oh, I don't really know social media.

Dad: This is my first time on social media.

Isabella: Like blame loser.

Dad: I didn't believe that.

Isabella: It was stupid.

Dad: But he did say he was sorry.

Isabella: Yeah, he did. Whatever. I think he kind of knew he had to. I already mentioned Sincere and Melanie. They're still seeing how it goes outside.

Then they brought out KC and TiTi and Kenzie and Dylan, who are both both these couples are going strong. Both are boyfriend and girlfriend. Kenzie and Dylan say they're in love, so good for them. They seem happy. TiTi was asked about her comments on Aftersun about how she said she wouldn't be friends with everyone, and she wanted to make it clear that she was asked, Would you be friends with everyone? She wasn't asked, Would you be friends with anyone? Right. And so she answered no, indicating that she would be friends with a lot of them, but not all of them. And I think Kayda was probably the one she was referring to, because TiTi is upset about the week that Kayda and Zach were in the bottom and TiTi and KC were not. Kayda was making all these comments of, like, I don't feel

like we deserve to be in the bottom.

I feel like they should be in the bottom. She did not like that. I don't even really remember how Kayda responded, but Kayda was an issue this entire reunion, to be honest. There was definitely a big comment she said later that I'll bring up that bothered a lot of people. We had Melanie and also, I'm speaking a lot.

Do you have any opinions so far?

Dad: No. I I wanna get to the one with the what was the woman that Sincere was with?

Isabella: Sol. Yeah. I'm almost there. I'm almost Melanie and Kandi were going back and forth for comments that Kenzie has made off the show, and Melanie said that Kenzie abandoned her when Melanie was coupled up with Corbin. And this was such a bizarre interaction because Melanie's, like, going at Kenzie, and which is fine.

I mean, if she feels a certain way, she's allowed to voice it. But what was weird was Kenzie is, like, really trying to defend herself, and she's starting to get upset. She's like, I really thought we were friends. I considered you one of my best friends in the villa, and Melanie's like, We weren't friends. Obviously, it hurts, Kenzie.

Kenzie starts tearing up, and then Melanie switches gears completely and it says, You know what? It's actually not that deep. Don't cry. It's not that deep. We're going to figure it out.

Went over and hugged her. So it ended nicely, but it was weird to me.

Dad: Yeah. I didn't think that that was going very well for I thought Kenzie was looking better in that.

Isabella: Yeah. I thought so too.

Dad: Was just a lot a Much Ado About Nothing.

Isabella: Yeah. It was. We got Gabe. We got unseed footage of the deliberation on sending him home. Kind of a nothing burger,

Dad: Yeah, a waste of time.

Isabella: He was he seemed a little bummed by the things that were said, which I get it. I mean, they were talk they were saying that he's gonna jump to the next girl that comes in. Maybe he would've, but there wasn't really much to make them feel that way besides, I guess, he jumped from Bea to Jen.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: So I don't know. I kind of go I could kind of go either way on that one. But Gabe and Jen are just friends. Gabe and Bea are also just friends. Jen and Caleb are just friends, but they all seem to be close friends, so I don't know.

Okay, now let's get into Sol. Sol, yes. Melanie's face when she's talking is hilarious. Hilarious. Melanie, she's just got this really sour face on as Sol is talking.

I thought it was funny.

Dad: Right. If you had asked me before the reunion who came in with the better arguments or basis for having an issue, I would have thought Sol had firmer ground. But after the reunion, Sol lost. And I don't know if she just doesn't watch reunions or she doesn't watch all of reality television, but there's a certain way to approach a reunion in that you have to be willing to take your lumps and be quiet. And you're not going to come out winning anything.

The best you can hope for in many instances is a draw.

Isabella: Yeah, or like a compromise, like agree disagree.

Dad: Right. And if she had just focused on certain things and stuck by that, she probably would have done a lot better, but she said apparently things outside of the show that haven't gone over well. And I just thought her delivery didn't help her at all. And it got to the point where it seemed like everyone on the stage was against her, which shocked me.

Isabella: Yeah. They they were really going at her for that. I wanna I do wanna mention she made a big deal after she was voted off the show about how she was pied more than two times, and they just didn't show them all. She said she was pied three times. Andy and Ariana confirmed.

They said, We 've seen the entire clip from that the pie thing, and it was twice. And she's still arguing. She's like, No, it's not. And they're like, It is. We've seen it.

Like, 1000%, you were pied twice. Sorry.

Dad: And of all the things to focus on in her time on the show, three pies versus two pies just seems

Isabella: Yeah, the way she was speaking made it sound like she was pied five or six times.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So, yeah. God. Bryce and Trinity were kinda going at her too, because Sol was saying that Bryce was pulling K to all the time, I guess more times than we had seen, and Trinity was pissed by that. Bryce said that's not even true. She's just I think Sol was trying to stir the pot once she got out of the villa, and Bryce and Trinity called her on it.

We saw this unseen footage, and this was good unseen footage, I thought, of Melanie and Sol talking in the villa.

Dad: Yes, but before we get into the details, it was shocking in the lengths of time that they showed the fact that they went back and showed previous footage. They they rarely do this in the normal Bravo reunion when someone says, This is what happened. You roll the tape, and usually there's no tape to be rolled. They just refer to it. So the fact that they actually went back and showed this footage for as long as it lasted, I thought was very unique in how reality TV reunions are handled.

Isabella: Yeah, for sure. And I think the main takeaway from this clip was that I actually think that this is one that they kind of did need to show, because we, the audience, didn't know who was really right. Sol was saying, You guys were bullying me. Melanie was not nice to me. I was

Dad: She's not a

Isabella: girl's Yeah. Melanie's not a girl's girl. I was treated terribly by everyone there. Melanie's coming back and arguing back and saying, That's not the truth. We had a heart to heart conversation.

I thought we were kind of on the same page. I stopped talking to Sincere for you to talk to him and get to know him more. And they finally showed this clip of Sol opening up a little bit to Melanie and saying, She's been homeless before. She's lost her dad. I think the clip turned out showing Melanie being in the right more because Melanie says, Girl, now that you know me, you'll never be homeless again.

I will never allow that to happen. She's I don't have everything Melanie said, but I think in the end, yeah. Melanie looked pretty good from

Dad: that case. And

Isabella: Sol looked like, okay, so where's the book? I'm not saying she for sure wasn't bullied. We don't know everything.

Dad: But then she said, oh, you kept giving me side eye and you'd make these comments, and that everyone on the stage said that was before that clip.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. Of course, Melanie's not going to love someone else talking to the guy she likes. And if she made side eye in passing comments

Dad: It happens.

Isabella: It happens. And I don't think it was anything directed at Sol. I think it was probably more directed at Sincere and the situation.

Dad: Right. Right.

Isabella: But let's move on from that. Oh, they had this was funny. I was laughing at this. They had a whole montage of sincerest metaphors. And when you put them all together back to back to back, it's it's pretty funny.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: I I can't stand the guy, but that's, yeah, that was

Dad: funny. And they're original, meaning he made them up for the

Isabella: most Yeah. They just came Long off the top of the

Dad: standing metaphors.

Isabella: The funniest one is, oh, you know, if I catch one fish and then I catch another fish, I don't have to throw one out. I could have two and say, Wow, these are both beautiful fish.

Dad: What was the one about you pray for the rain, but you got to deal with the mud?

Isabella: Yeah. That I forget the exact but something like that.

Dad: He

Isabella: said that after Casa Amor.

Dad: Okay. Right.

Isabella: Yeah. He's ridiculous. Okay. Okay, now we're getting into Corbin and Parmida were brought out. They announced they're not together.

They want different things. Ariana's asking, Well, what happened? They're not really giving

Dad: No, us they were not giving away any.

Isabella: Think maybe had a conversation before the reunion to say, Okay, we're gonna tell them we're not together, but we're not really gonna give them much more than that. Smart. Smart. Yeah. Fair.

And then Jaiden and Caleb, this is where it gets messy. Jaiden and Caleb left the villa not officially together, and they are not together now. But I guess they slept together after, like, in the hotel room right after the villa. And then they were kind of talking for the month or so following. And Jaiden says that he wasn't being super honest and he wasn't really putting in much effort.

He is saying that they met up in the Hamptons, and he tried to break it off with her. But then I guess they slept together again that same night. And she is saying, no, you didn't say that. And he's saying, yes, I did. So I don't really know who is telling the truth here.

I tend to believe Jaiden more.

Dad: He did come out and say, Hey, I could have handled it better. I could have been more Yeah.

Isabella: I don't think he's, like, a bad guy, but I do think he probably handled the situation incorrectly. I think he was a little bit cowardly, probably. And maybe he thought that he was trying to break it off in the Hamptons, but clearly she didn't take it that way.

Dad: Right.

Isabella: So that's on him for not being clear, I think. I mean, maybe

Dad: And this leads into, I'm sure, the Kayda quote. You had said in advance of your mother and I watching it, there's gonna be a thing that Kayda says, and I said, Oh, I knew what it was, and your mom said, Are you sure that's what she's talking about? I said, Oh, yes. There's gonna be a lot of fallout from this.

Isabella: Oh, and there is. Kayda has nothing to do with this conversation, by the way. This is between Jaiden and Caleb, and they're trying to Ariana's trying to figure out what happened here. Kayda jumps in. She's like, Can I say something?

In her grouchy, raspy voice, Can I say something? I can't do it, but you guys know what I'm talking about. Ariana said, Yeah, sure. Go for it. And she goes, Jaiden, why would you sleep with him again then?

I don't know what the exact

Dad: Yes. It takes two to tango or

Isabella: Yeah, takes two to tango. Why would you would you, like, subject yourself to that again? And Ariana jumps in and goes, That's pretty harsh. And Kayda goes, it's not that harsh, babe. Ariana, to Jaiden's defense, is saying, I think what Jaiden's trying to say here is that Caleb led her on, and Caleb gave her false promises.

And clearly something's not adding up here. And, yeah, it takes two to tango. If Caleb didn't like her, he should have told her no too. Right. So it's very slut shamy.

It's much defensive of Caleb for what? Like, Caleb seems like a sweet guy and all, but

Dad: Did they have beef during the show, Jaiden?

Isabella: Not that I know of. Okay. Not that I know of. And the other thing is it's very hypocritical of Kayda too, Because one, you didn't really have the same energy for Zach when he was messing around in Casa Moore. And when he said, like, Oh, are you gonna be mad if I talk to a bombshell?

Right after they slept together.

Dad: Yes. Yeah.

Isabella: And then also, where's this smoke for Melanie with Sincere? I mean, Melanie took Sincere back multiple times, and I'm pretty sure they slept together in the villa. Where was the smoke for Melanie? It's just it's so annoying from Kayda. It is harsh, and there was no need to be rude and snippy to Ariana.

And she's getting a lot of backlash.

Dad: I was gonna ask, was there fallout on SoSee?

Isabella: She's had a lot of people unfollow her, me included. She's had I'm pretty sure there was a company that dropped her.

Dad: Interesting.

Isabella: Yeah. Now, I don't know that one's always tough to me because I don't want anybody to lose out on business opportunities. But the whole thing about Love Island is you're getting these business opportunities because people love you from the show. And if you do something to make people not like you anymore, then why would this company want us to keep working with you? They hired you because you're loved.

Dad: Do you know which one on the show has the most followers?

Isabella: I believe it's Trinity.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: I don't I could verify that, That but I'm pretty is pretty much all I had for I know it's a lot, but that's all I had for Love Island reunion.

Dad: Okay. How about Next Gen NYC?

Isabella: Okay. Okay. We left off Next Gen NYC where things were weird between Ariana and Liam because he dropped the L bomb on her. And so Ari okay. We get an extra clip that shows a little bit more context for Liam.

Liam says that he brought Ariana to his family lake house, and Ariana told him that he is her dream man, and he is everything she's been wishing and asking for. And he clearly took that seriously to heart.

Dad: Not just that, but they also show clips from a prior episode where she was with her sister at some restaurant saying, This man is before me, and I look at him, and I don't want any other girl to take him. So I think they're showing that maybe he had more of a basis to believe it was okay or close to okay time to say, I love you, although it's just so fast.

Isabella: Yeah. I think I think what you're saying is it showed a little bit more context from Absolutely. Liam's point of But I still don't necessarily think it was the time to say that. No. No.

So I think I I guess I see both sides a little bit more now, but I don't know. I think I said last episode that Liam and Charlie are cool. They're friends. This But night where Ariana is like I guess laughing until four a. With Charlie, I think that really pissed Liam off.

So, and Liam is like wishing that others had his back more when it came to Charlie.

Dad: Charlie did have a big apology

Isabella: on his He did. Yeah. So that was where I was getting to. Yeah. They met on the mountain, and Charlie was like, Listen, man.

If you guys had a label, I'd leave it alone. Like, if you tell me that you guys are together, I will leave it alone.

Dad: Yeah. It almost sounded like Love Island kind of stuff they said they're exclusive, but they're not boyfriend and girlfriend. I'm like, Wait. Okay. Maybe they watch the show too, but it seemed inconsistent with what Ariana said at that dinner in Las Vegas, where she's like, we're not dating or something like that, we're not boyfriend and girlfriend, but she left out we're exclusive.

Maybe because she realizes that's cheesy outside of Love Yeah.

Isabella: I think the main thing here that Ariana isn't talking about enough is that she has Hudson in the back of her mind. Right. And I think no one's really considering that at this moment. It's it's gonna be brought up later, of course, because we, as I mentioned last episode, we know Ariana gets back together with Hudson for some period of time, whether brief or not. So oh, there were a few quotes on this episode that I thought were pretty good.

I'm pretty sure both came from Georgia.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: Seth Marks is one of the great spiritual leaders of our time.

Dad: I clocked that. I thought that was interesting. Maybe she needs more father figures in her life or or at least anyone who will talk to her and say nice things to her face.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: You're the Ralph Lauren of home cleaning products.

Isabella: That was the other one I had. That was the other quote.

Dad: And I did that from memory.

Isabella: To be fair, I mean, Seth Marks, I think, gave her great advice. She kind of went up to him and was like, Do Do you have any advice? I'm trying to get into this cleaning industry. Like, what any tips for presenting this or investor meetings? And I don't remember exactly what he said, but he seemed very interested and very much willing to give her advice and help.

Dad: He pretty much said it was her, right? Your brand will be you, and you need to stand behind it, and things that work well are based on a great founder. Something along those lines.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was just nice. It was good advice. Sweet too.

Let's get into Gia.

Dad: Oh, yeah.

Isabella: Gia had a bit of a Teresa ism this episode. We've seen her mother come out.

Dad: Well, and leading up to that, it was from the prior episode where they were saying, Use one word to describe each of you or one other person. And someone called Shai Oh, Georgia said one word for Shai is clown, which he didn't like, and then she came back and said jester, j Which e s t e

Isabella: he definitely didn't like.

Dad: He didn't like that, but I think he doesn't know what it means either. The court jester is probably the smartest person in the room, smarter than the king, can make fun of the king in ways which the king doesn't even necessarily understand, and keeps the crowd in check and hysterics and things like that. And I don't know that maybe I'm missing

Isabella: from it.

Dad: I think

Isabella: you're probably right, but I'm not sure that Georgia meant it that. Georgia was who said it. Right? Yes. I'm not sure that she meant it that way.

Dad: Could be, but I think she is I smarter than the average

Isabella: think she No, I don't think Georgia's dumb. I think Georgia's pretty smart. I think she's smarter than she comes across as. But what we're getting to is that Gia is like jester? She thought they were saying gesture.

Dad: She she asked ChatGPT or some AI, what is a gesture? And she said it the correct way, but it was not received by the AI and thought she said gesture, g e s t u r e. And then she read the definition and said, oh, I think I'm a gesture.

Isabella: Yes. Yeah, I forgot that. That was so

Dad: funny. And the producers, I I could just hear the silence. Their jaws were probably dropped agape. Yeah. And just wow.

I I'm so glad that we got this on video.

Isabella: Yeah. It was I think Gia is a really smart girl too. I genuinely think Gia is a smart person, but her mom popped out a little bit there.

Dad: Well, think it goes to a problem with a lot of people in this day and age is they don't read. And if you don't read much, you would never know the word jester. You probably wouldn't remember the, like, one time in history class in high school that they even mentioned it, if they even do. So if you don't read, I can't really blame her for not knowing this, but I can blame her for not reading more.

Isabella: Yeah. But I mean, we don't know for sure that she doesn't read. I'm not saying I'm pretty sure she was in law school at one point. So she's not gonna be dumb. And I'm not saying you're saying she's dumb, but I don't know if we could even say for

Dad: she's don't know like, why she doesn't know. Right. But it's a broader thing that if people read more, they would know more.

Isabella: For sure. Yes.

Dad: And I mean reading, not just like looking up something really boring, like the structure of the king's court, but if you read non fiction and fiction, these words will come into your lexicon like that. So that's me shouting at clouds. Yeah. These damn kids need to read more.

Isabella: You're not wrong. I mean, my God, we do have an issue with that. Oh my okay. We didn't get too much of Riley this episode, but the one thing that made me laugh was Georgia is saying she had to I don't even don't even know how she did this. She's saying she had to unclog a toilet with her hands.

Riley's reaction to that, I I don't know how to describe it, but it was

Dad: Not to give it away, but this is something that should be given away. She unclogged a toilet that just had tissues in

Isabella: it. Yeah. That was she

Dad: blew his nose and threw tissues in the toilet, which I don't quite understand how that clogs the toilet, but it was Charlie who somehow clogged the toilet. He's not the one to clean it out, but Georgia is. It's kind of weird. I have to imagine how that back and forth went. No, you do it.

No, you do it. And then Georgia says, I'll reach my hand into the toilet. Even though it was just tissues from blowing his nose, it's still a toilet.

Isabella: Well, That's why Riley's reaction was like Horrified. Yeah. Horrified is the correct term.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: She was horrified. Eyes wide, mouth wide open, like shock. That was funny. Like I said, we didn't see much of Riley this episode. But back to Charlie and Georgia.

They actually made up this episode. Charlie told Georgia that he's not stealing her idea. It's not a bowling alley. It's just gonna be like a sports bar. And so she's like, Oh.

Okay. Well, I guess I'm

Dad: she was also grasping a straw. She was saying, Yeah, but you it's got a top level with members only in three floors. And he said, Okay, the number of floors is dictated by the space, so that's not unique. And two, there are plenty of places in New York City that have members only clubs within a club. So those two things are irrelevant.

I thought he was very well spoken in making his points, and he wasn't getting angry. And then she conceded, Oh, well, if there's no bowling alley, then I, okay, we're fine.

Isabella: No, I think Charlie had a pretty good episode.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: He made up with he made up with Liam for the time being. He made up with Georgia, and he he tried like, he really made a good attempt at making amends with Emira, even though I think it's I think that's maybe gonna take a little bit more time. Emira said she needs some space. But he I thought he gave her a nice apology. Like, course, what he said and admitted to saying is horrible.

Dad: I thought Emira was very gracious in saying, I'm angry with you, but also very adult. And I don't want to sound like I mean, they're probably close to thirty's, so they are adults already.

Isabella: No, I think that But

Dad: if we to say, I need some space and whatever you say is not really going to matter right now, I just need to take some time away, I thought was, wow, that's usually not how people react when they're angry. They just want to fight. And so it was a smart move on both their parts.

Isabella: I think it was one of the more mature conversations we've seen on this show.

Dad: Maybe one of the more mature we've seen on reality TV. Yeah. In a long time.

Isabella: That and the Shai and Brooks conversation from last week, like Yes. There are some conversations here and there that I'm like, okay.

Dad: I think reality TV can and teach life lessons. Hey, why don't you look up the Shai and Charlie thing or Shai and Brooks.

Isabella: Yeah. Yeah.

Dad: But of course, you say that in real life and people just look at you funny like, what do Of course you do.

Isabella: It's okay.

Dad: It's silly.

Isabella: Oh, okay. Oh, the other thing that Riley said. I'm jumping around a bit. I know. So I apologize to our listeners.

Riley also mentioned in the episode that she really likes Liam, even though she said even though Hudson's her boy. She really likes Liam. So

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: And then we see Shai and Ava getting closer.

Dad: Kind of a shocker. I thought that she was gonna blow him off Me but had no interest.

Isabella: Yeah. Me too. But she's asking him, When are you gonna ask me out on a date? And then I guess they okay. Shai they both tell the story.

It was clearly not filmed, so I wrote it all down. Ava, Liam, Ariana, and Shai went to a bar. Ava and Shai kissed. Then they all went to Charlie's besides Liam. And apparently Ava is saying that Charlie and Ariana were vibing, and Ariana this is how the episode ends.

Ariana's in the confessional saying, God, please forgive me. Cliffhanger.

Dad: More to come.

Isabella: So, yeah. I gave Ariana a lot of credit last episode, and I don't know if

Dad: she's I still stand behind behind my statement from last episode because based on the information we had at the time, that was correct, but new information comes available. I'm open to changing my mind on their relationship.

Isabella: Oh, yeah. For sure. And in the preview, we saw Ariana saying, like, I don't really wanna define boundaries with you. Charlie leans in

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: To kiss her, we presume. Now, that would be some some really good editing if that's not what actually happens.

Dad: Oh, yeah. It's possible. Certainly possible.

Isabella: It's we've seen Stranger Things, so

Dad: Okay. Do want to move on to Below Deck Med?

Isabella: I don't have a ton here.

Dad: Okay. As an initial internal catch up, last week we talked about me going off the rails and buying ramen pride or whatever the current version is. Yeah. And we predicted what your mother would say, and it took her until yesterday.

Isabella: I'm so glad I was here to witness it.

Dad: Which also, she's obviously not listening to at least that episode of the podcast because she would have known to look for them.

Isabella: She's a

Dad: terrible And she surprised, and it was almost word for word in order what she would say in response response to me. Of course, it was a silly purchase, I acknowledge, but we knew it. You've got it on video, not like we're going to share it with

Isabella: you. Yeah, I didn't get the whole thing on video. I needed to go back and watch it later. She's like, What did you pay for this?

Dad: What the F are you thinking?

Isabella: Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

Dad: Okay. On to the show.

Isabella: So the show picks up with Max announcing he's leaving to go save his father. Sandy had a quote that I know it's a very serious situation that they're in. I mean, Max, that's like, he could have died. I think he's fine, obviously. Sandy said, Max, you are not Rambo.

I kind of giggled at that because, yeah, Sandy, this is not a movie. This is real life here. I did say I wish cameras could follow Max on his journey, but of course that's not feasible.

Dad: Right. For a variety of reasons.

Isabella: Oh, Sandy pulled Nathan aside and was like, You need to make up with Joe. It's weird. I don't think Nathan really took her advice because he did pull Joe aside, but he was like, Why have you been moping around, essentially? Which I don't think those are I'm not saying they're fighting words, but they're not really way to start a productive conversation. That's

Dad: No. For And then he does catch he overhears Joe talking shit about him to the girl he's hooking up with, and he gets really bothered by it and starts asking her what's her name?

Isabella: Kayley.

Dad: Yeah. Asking her what's he talking about behind my back, and then he finally calls Joe out. And it does come to mind, at what point after being on the show, how many seasons do they completely forget that they're on camera? Right? The they know they should know that this stuff is gonna come out, and it's gonna make him look pathetic.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: But it doesn't didn't stop him, which is probably consistent we know about him now.

Isabella: Yeah.

Dad: He's on the run, by the way.

Isabella: He's on the run.

Dad: Did

Isabella: you Yes. Read that

Dad: They issued an arrest warrant in Australia.

Isabella: Oh, and they haven't

Dad: served he had a court date and he didn't show up, and so they're trying to find him. Look, I didn't look into the underlying documents issued by the Australian court,

Isabella: but You just saw that he hadn't there was an arrest warrant that was not

Dad: Something along those lines, and it it came from enough sources that I tend to believe it.

Isabella: Okay. That's yeah. I also mentioned Nathan should leave Kaylee alone. Like, what a weirdo. Like, leave that girl alone, and also kind of everybody else.

You don't need to be going around to every single crew member saying, Has Nathan talked or has Joe talked badly about me? It's stupid. I'm sick of him, as I've mentioned before. Don't have that's all I had for Below Deck.

Dad: Okay. Is that our last show in the

Isabella: Yes. Really, really quickly, I just want to mention, this was like in my mind the craziest Bravo reality TV news of the year. We've seen confirmation that Phaedra Parks and CT from the challenge are dating. They just went to the Emmys together. I guess he was not the real Emmy creative awards or whatever, secondary Emmys, I guess.

He was presenting there. He took her as his date. They have pictures together. She's saying that they've been hanging out in New York City, that, like, I guess he's come down to Atlanta. Like, they seem to be legitimately together.

And I know I know you don't really know C. T. Because you didn't watch The Challenge, but we we saw them both on The Traitors. That's how they met. And they definitely had some sort of connection there, whether it was friendship or not.

And I think now we see that maybe it wasn't just friendship. And what a crazy couple that I really I put on our Instagram story, I said this was not on my bingo card for a year. Because yeah. But I like it. I like it.

I'm rooting for them, and that's all I have to say. Do we have time for a game?

Dad: Sure.

Isabella: Okay. Again, the way this works is I am going to tell the audience while he's out of the room who who the picture is that I'm showing him.

Dad: And you're gonna whisper it so it's obvious to the listener that that's what you're doing.

Isabella: Yeah. And then I will send him that image, and he's gonna guess who it is. First one is Fraser Olender from Below Deck.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: So the first one let me send you right now. I will go ahead and say these are all Bravo. I know last week I added a non Okay.

Dad: It's one of the chief stews from Below Deck. His name escapes me. Christian? No. What's the first letter?

F. Fraser?

Isabella: Yes. With

Dad: an s, I believe.

Isabella: Yep.

Dad: Fraser.

Isabella: Yep. You got it.

Dad: Okay. Right. Great.

Isabella: And yeah, Chief Stew from Below Deck. You just need a little hint sometimes, I guess. Okay. I do think this is a tough week, though. I picked some tougher ones.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: That's good. So that was easy round.

Dad: Okay.

Isabella: The next one is going to be Erin Lichy from New RHONY. I think the next two are kind of equally hard, but I'll send this

Dad: one Second one is ready. Okay. She is from Real Housewives of New York. Oh my gosh.

Isabella: Which comes back this week, I believe.

Dad: I can picture her father and

Isabella: I don't know if I could picture her

Dad: He has been on there a couple times. Shit. There's no way I can remember her name.

Isabella: That's kind of what I thought.

Dad: Give me a first letter.

Isabella: E. No. Erin Lechy.

Dad: No. I would have never gotten

Isabella: that. I kind of didn't think you would. Okay. But I figured it would be good to throw her in because New York is coming back this week, I believe. I think maybe even Tuesday.

It's coming this Tuesday,

Dad: New York Okay, starts going for our show.

Isabella: Which New York is not my favorite, but they're switching things up. They're adding back in Carole Radziwill, and I'll give it a chance. And the final name is Emmy Sharett from Southern Hospitality.

Dad: Yep. Okay.

Isabella: And then the final one. Okay. Southern Okay. New This one, you're you're gonna know this girl. I just don't know if you're gonna know her name.

Dad: Okay. Oh, it is Southern Hospitality. She's one of my favorites for the level of drama.

Isabella: I know.

Dad: Oh gosh, her name. I know her boyfriend went to law school and he left the show. She's like the single biggest point of drama on the entire show. Give me the first letter.

Isabella: E.

Dad: It's not Ellie. Close. What is it?

Isabella: It's Emmy. Oh. Yeah. One I knew was gonna bother you because I know you maybe don't love her for who she is, but you love her on the show. She's the best part of the show.

Dad: Reality said television.

Isabella: So I knew you were gonna be upset that you But couldn't the

Dad: guy is like who else on TV? Anyway, I'll come back.

Isabella: And for context, the image that I used to show him is one of her sobbing.

Dad: Yes.

Isabella: Because that's all she did last season.

Dad: Right. So Okay. I was one for three, unless you give me half credit for naming the shows.

Isabella: I don't think you I don't think you can do that anymore. Okay. Okay. Well, that I think is all of our episodes. So we look forward to a couple shows coming back.

Yes. And then we will see you next week.

Dad: Thanks for listening. Everyone.